Skip to comments.Gun Hypocrisy: With so many guns what are 2nd Amendment enthusiasts waiting for?
Posted on 12/22/2012 4:29:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Puzzling me for a long time is the inconsistency between two claims by gun and Second Amendment supporters. One is that what they worship is critically needed to defend themselves against a government that they would view as oppressive and unacceptable. The other is their belief that the US government has already become awful, stealing their liberties.
Why then, I keep asking myself, have we not seen a violent uprising among the untold millions of Americans owning guns to take back their government? Why do we not see what goes on in European nations, namely violent public uprisings against governments?
There is more private gun ownership in the US than any other nation. We have a far right part of the population with considerable public presence and power. FOX News, the Tea Party movement, and countless groups and think tanks angrily attacking the mainstream media, liberals, and leftist politicians as well as just about everything done by President Obama.
So, why hasnt the massive number of gun nuts who keep expressing their love of the Second Amendment actually done what they claim is exactly needed, what the Second Amendment was created to give them the right to do, and what their massive gun power supposedly gives them the means to accomplish? Especially when they lose major elections, when their Republican and conservative politicians fail to deliver to them?
Are the paranoid doom and gloom gun nuts waiting for things to get a whole lot worse before they actually implement the grand plan to use their guns to overthrow what they see as an evil, unconstitutional and oppressive government?
From their perspective, how much worse does the government have to become before they finally get the courage to use their guns and restore American democracy and liberties?(continued)
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Im not sure what the go signal will be either, but some will notice it before others.
America is still in that awkward in-between age. But the left is working hard to push us over the edge.
We’re smarter than they are and have a far greater respect for the American ideal which makes us unwilling to throw it away to get what we want.
We’re certainly not going to be goaded into a fight by this clown.
I wonder IF and HOW MANY will recognize Obama’s reichstag fire.
I’d say it was because most thinking people understand that the next civil war will be a terrible affair. Our society still bears scars from the last one, 150 years ago. One does not undertake such a thing lightly.
Man, those leftists REALLY dig calling for the deaths of their enemies.
But, yeah, it's okay when they do it because they're all about peace, love, etc.
It would seem that most Americans are not arming up just to obey any orders from the government to register, turn in, store in an armory, etc, their best self-defense against tyranny.
The way its looking now it will start like it did the last two time there was massive armed resistance on US soil. Both times the trigger was when they came to confiscate the people’s firearms.
They cannot bring about Bill Ayer’s goal of killing 25 million Americans unless we cannot fight back.
Yup and the left desperately wants to goad us into a fight for a reason. Our challenge is to refuse to let them do it so we can fight them smart and on our terms.
If you look at the way things are going within the individual states, the future isn’t looking so hot for the democrats. Republicans hold all 3 branches of government in 23 or 24 states and the democrats hold all 3 branches in 13 states. The trend is not looking good for the democrats at all.
It is not time yet.
The parameters have not been set.
I have the opinion that some folks are waiting for the “low-inforamtion” crowd, to bubble over and foment, thereby, it would be in response, not in aggression, with the same sort of outcome, or so I’ve heard.
“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”
You don't lightly throw your country into a civil war.
It’s called keeping our power dry, and I think it’s still wise for now.
I also think it will obvious when it’s no longer wise, and I think they’re pushing to wards that point as I type.
I’m starting to think it happened in Connecticut just recently.
I think this gentleman is confused about what the word libertarian means. Either that or it is end times, with black meaning white, up meaning down and libertarian meaning gun-confiscating commie.
"Skin me, Br'er Fox, snatch out my eyeballs, tear out my ears by the roots, and cut off my legs, but do please, Br'er Fox, don't fling me in that briar patch!" Br'er Rabbit
I've said this before and I'll say it again, despite all the bluster and chest thumping by the keyboard commandos, we won't ever see one as long as the thumpers have jobs, mortgages, payments on their new Dodge Ram 1500's and families to provide for..........
God forbid, if we have a ‘next one’ within the next month, that will certainly do it.
‘Why do we not see what goes on in European nations, namely violent public uprisings against governments? ‘
Huh??? Have I missed something?
What public uprisings in Europe?
Is this author referring to the uprisings in the MidEast and northern Africa?
These uprisings were inspired by the Muslim Brotherhood in an effort to overthrow the current governments.
Some people must write just to hear themselves think.
What we are all waiting for is a George Washington.
This actually bodes well for the vast majority of gun owners exercising incredible restraint. It just goes to show what truly decent law abiding people they are.
It would not take much however once blatant attempts at confiscation and criminalization took place to push it all over the edge.
I no more worship my guns than I do my fire extinguishers. I don’t want to have to use either in an emergency, but it’s far better to have and not need them than vice versa.
He must be one of those Bill Maher “libertarians”. I do not think that word means what he thinks it means.
Connecticut may actually not be the first or even the second. I am really uncertain but some things just don’t add up.
LOL you leftist stooge.
Reminds me of a joke:
What did the masochist say to the sadist? "Hurt me"
What did the sadist say to the masochist? "No"
1) If it weren’t for the Second Amendment we would already be slaves. The Marxists in our nation would have made their move to tyranny long ago. With full knowledge that there are likely several million of gun owners in this nation that can shoot the eye out of a gnat at 400 yards, politicians tend to be less over reaching in their ambitions.
2) Conservatives are rational people. They understand that historically Civil War is a catastrophic event in terms of lives lost and destruction of wealth. There is still plenty of opportunity to turn this nation around. It is the Second Amendment, and the extra stretch in the political culture that it allows, that makes this opportunity for **peaceful** change entirely possible.
Also from the linked article: "... the number of Democratic households with firearms in their homes skyrocketed from 30 percent in 2009 to 40 percent today."
It's no wonder that gun-grabbing liberals can't balance the national budget. I doubt that they even know it's not balanced.
In order to believe the author's claims, one would have to believe that a greater percentage of Democratic households contain guns than non-Democratic.
Perhaps the author is telling us that the guns in Democratic households are not "owned". Perhaps they have all been stolen? Or dredged out of America's lakes along with the wreckage of many ill-fated boats?
Liberals do not actually understand what hypocrisy is, or they would turn their contempt upon themselves.
What part of Joel is libertarian? His anus?
Conservatives rarely resort to gun violence. All the assassinations and mass killings have been leftists.
“America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to work within the system, but it’s too early to start shooting the bastards.”
~ Claire Wolfe
I tend to agree with you. It’s when a man is hungry, empty belly hungry or in fear for his family that you see him start to react in the mode of a rat backed into a corner. Fighting and spitting and kicking because there is nowhere else to run to.
Soldiers have to be taught to fight, to understand the consequences of fighting and that people die in combat or as sometimes is a worse fate survive but so badly damaged in mind and body that they might as well had died on the battlefield. Civilians can talk a good game but really how many are willing to go that extra step?
You know... the one that breaks the “Normalcy Bias” or as I call it, “Social Inertia”. A person will not know until it happens and when it does? You can’t ever go back to the person you once were.
Greece for one. Italy and Spain too.
But he is forgeting it was his people rioting because the government tit has dried up.
Our side is waiting for his people to try this against our property....
Because we are a reasonable, peaceful people.
Think about Ayers comment and the time in which it was made.
1972 or so...right. 25 million represented about 10% of the population then, about 209 million. So it would be closer to 35 million now with a population of 314 million.
Ayers and his ilk are set to outdo Mao Stalin AND Hitler combined.
What is required? Three things: A trigger event, a plan, and organization. No one knows what the trigger event will be. It could be be major or seemingly minor event that sets off the chain reaction. There is more than one plan that would succeed and at least two that would be basically bloodless. Organization is a simple at two words: “Stand By”.
What is required? Three things: A trigger event, a plan, and organization. No one knows what the trigger event will be. It could be be major or seemingly minor event that sets off the chain reaction. There is more than one plan that would succeed and at least two that would be basically bloodless. Organization is as simple as two words: “Stand By”.
The left will run out of handouts before armed Americans run out of guns and ammo. Parasite on left violence will start first. Since the left has nothing to give, there is no reason for armed Americans to go on offense. Lock and load and pass the popcorn. The mutual attrition of parasites and the left means less targets. It’s a lot easier playing defense anyway. Socialism always fails, always.
This Joel ahole who wrote this crap calls himself a “libertarian?” Seriously?
Any guns I may own are for my self defense of my family first and for feeding my family second.
Funny how the Feds never tried such things again.
Perhaps because they have not started hauling people off to the concentration camps, breaking down front doors to confiscate weapons, and shooting people in the streets yet. Have you noticed uprisings in other parts of the world, espeically the middle east against their oppressors. Yes! Where? In those countries where the people had access to weapons. When people are pushed far enough by the government in this nation, you may very well see it. Dont’ forget, we did have a War of Independence in our history, as well as a Civil War. They both built up over a period of time before the blood spillage began.
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