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Gun control measures must be taken (Ban semi-auto guns & large capacity magazine clips?)
The Journal Tribune ^ | December 27, 2012 | Bernard Featherman

Posted on 12/28/2012 2:04:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Gun violence continues to cause horrific tragedies in America. The latest incident, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut on Dec. 14, illustrates how the occurrence of such a terrible tragedy can spread heartbreak throughout the nation.

Whose children will not feel frightened about going to school, after learning of this disaster? Which children will not have occasional nightmares now? Something needs to change, to reduce the likelihood of more of these incidents.

In Connecticut, a 20-year-old troubled youth killed 20 young children and five members of the school staff, after killing his mother with her own guns. It was a planned and deliberate school shooting. Such incidents may well continue nationwide, even though very few school communities have been touched by gun shooting or killings in the past. Yet, few schools have developed safety practices to prevent such occurrences.

Disasters can happen anywhere. On the same Dec. 14, at a school in China, 20 young students were stabbed by a knife-wielding man, but fortunately the students were only injured, not killed. Because he used a knife instead of an assault gun, he was able to be stopped before people died.

Across the globe, people have been attacked with guns or knives, by angry or mentally disturbed persons. The NRA is right in saying that guns don’t kill, people do. But it is wrong in denying that more deaths occur when the attacker has assault type weapons. What we need right now is reasonable discussion and reasonable compromise...

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KEYWORDS: banglist; congress; guncontrol; maine; secondamendment
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This is the Left's real agenda.
1 posted on 12/28/2012 2:04:59 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What we need right now is reasonable discussion and reasonable compromise...

There is no 'reason' and there is no 'compromise' in the left's agenda in using this tragedy for the ghoulish advancement of their unending need to absolutely control a free people.

Reason and compromise are not the foundations of Senator Feinstein's proposed gun-bill which not only strengthens the expired AWB, but goes much, much further: adding up to 100 prohibited weapons, 'grandfathering-in-name-only' REGISTRATION, POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION, INVENTORY OF WEAPONS, and on and on and on and on.

Only decent, law-abiding Americans would obey this new law if passed, and they would be fools to do so. Criminals will ignore it and the thousands of other laws already on the books. And, this new law would make criminals of more Americans than they have yet to realize, because those of us who are not in the 'fool' category will ignore it until they are challenged.

2 posted on 12/28/2012 2:22:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
... "reasonable compromise" ...

give up your weapons and we'll let you live...

I'm not falling for that trick.

Come and get 'em.

3 posted on 12/28/2012 2:22:47 AM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Measure must be taken to control totalitarians.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 2:24:45 AM PST by PGalt
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To: exnavy

Socialism is slavery.


5 posted on 12/28/2012 2:27:31 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Gaffer

Gun-Free Zones Supporters Enable Shootings: they shall be responsible for the lost lives.


6 posted on 12/28/2012 2:30:02 AM PST by PieroC (pieroc)
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To: Gaffer

I’m’ guessing atleast 15 to 20 million Americans would passively become felons overnight. I will risk prison time over becoming a victom of crime or even genocide sometime down the road. It’s better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.


7 posted on 12/28/2012 2:34:08 AM PST by MachIV
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To: MachIV

A lot of gun owners are going to segregate their weapons from now on. “Segregate?” Separating those 4473 weapons from private sales, etc.....

Likely too, there will be a flurry of private ‘sales’ of those holdings that are 4473 originated.


8 posted on 12/28/2012 2:39:24 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: PieroC

Well, I’ve certainly never heard of a police precinct being robbed or an attempted mass murder by gun being perpetrated, have you?


9 posted on 12/28/2012 2:40:50 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gun control? Hell, let’s have totalitarian control! Up against the wall, Communists!


10 posted on 12/28/2012 2:44:28 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“...Something needs to change, to reduce the likelihood of more of these incidents...”

Yes, we need to first get serious about putting criminals in jail and keeping them there away from society. Second we need to identify and get help for mentally ill people who are threats to themselves and others and if they are still a danger to society involuntarily commitment to a mental institution that will protect society from them.

Yes, something does need to change, but Connecticut had an Assault Weapons Ban, so pass a federal one would not have done a thing to prevent the tragedy in Connecticut.

11 posted on 12/28/2012 2:46:29 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You want to save children’s lives? Ban private swimming pools.


12 posted on 12/28/2012 3:39:57 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So some small town fish wrapper let another mouth breather near a keyboard. It’s not news. Let Mr. Featherman try to take away a gun.


13 posted on 12/28/2012 3:41:44 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We need POLITICIAN control to protect our rights. There must be intelligence tests along with common sense test before they can run for office.
14 posted on 12/28/2012 3:50:55 AM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Gun violence continues to cause horrific tragedies in America.”

The French economist Bastiat said that all effects of a situation must be taken into effect, both the seen and the unseen.

The “seen” in this case is the mass murder of over two dozen people at Sandy Hook. The “unseen” is the defensive use of firearms over 2 million times a year by lawful citizens against criminals who are outside of any gun control law that this author insists we must have.

The “seen” is “reasonable discussion and reasonable compromise”. The “unseen” is an agenda that moves inexorably to terminal infringement of a right that “shall not be infringed”.

This explains the recent quote by ABC News from NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg:

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But if he had his preference, Bloomberg said he would go farther than the 1994 ban and outlaw all automatic and semi-automatic weapons and high-capacity magazines. The mayor said magazines shouldn’t be allowed to contain more than five or six rounds.

“If you haven’t hit the deer with three shots, you’re a pretty lousy shot. The deer deserves to get away,” he said....

link: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bloomberg-blasts-nra-connecticut-actions/story?id=18029157

Bloomberg is struggling to be an opinion leader on this issue. In the world he would like to see, and that many others would like to see as well, his body guards could have as much ammunition as they thought necessary to protect him, but you could not share the same right to protect yourself.

The same goes for magazine-waiving David Gregory.

Their idea of “reasonable discussion and reasonable compromise” is to force the rest of us to go from 30 rounds to 10 rounds to 7 rounds to “five or six” rounds to three rounds to one round and then of course like in the UK, to ZERO rounds, where it would be illegal to even use the firearm as a club with which to bludgeon an assailant lest he be too severely injured.

But back to the seen and the unseen. Advocates of restrictions are really attempting to outlaw violent behavior, which of course they cannot do. They are reacting to an outburst of evil hatred that began when a young man shot his own mother four times in the head while she lay in bed. Now, tell me again which of all the new restrictions being proposed would have stopped this outburst of murder and mayhem?

What I see from people pushing this new “reasonable discussion and reasonable compromise” is not reasonable in any way shape or form. In fact it insults my intelligence.


15 posted on 12/28/2012 4:00:12 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical....thomas jefferson 1787


16 posted on 12/28/2012 4:04:58 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Whose children will not feel frightened about going to school, after learning of this disaster?”

Far, far more children die in the process of going to school than by crazies with guns when there.


17 posted on 12/28/2012 4:07:36 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: Gaffer

Interesting point about the police stations and leads me to this...given that most police departments today are armed beyond what the armies of most small nations have at their disposol, why does anyone now suspect we need less 2nd amendment protection from our government than did the founders who while somewhat less armed than the Brits at least had similarly deadly weapons? 30 or more years ago, I did not fear our government, today, I view it as a worse enemy than the USSR was or the Chinese are.


18 posted on 12/28/2012 4:12:46 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Mouton

Most large, and some smaller, LE departments have taken advantage of “confiscation” opportunites that were meant to punish drug criminals, etc., but have spilled over into just plain confiscation of any opportunity. They’ve equipped themselves to the same preparedness of our elite military units. Why? There just aren’t that many situations that require ubiquitous preparedness such as this.

In Atlanta Metropolitan Area for instance. There are SWAT teams in EVERY surrounding county, two three deep in most instances. It leads one to suspect there are other situations they are preparing for.

Like you, I don’t trust this government one bit. Not a hint of a bit.


19 posted on 12/28/2012 4:19:30 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“What we need right now is reasonable discussion and reasonable compromise..”

Reasonable discussion is not possible when dealing with the ranting lunatic socialists on the left. Their idea of compromise is for us to do as they dictate.

The Second Amendment is not negotiable, except by way of further amendment via the Constitutional process. Of course, the 0bamunists have never seen a law they can’t ignore...


20 posted on 12/28/2012 4:31:38 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Still seeking change.)
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