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Christopher Dorner as a Rorschach Test for Racial and Political Attitudes
Thy Black Man ^ | February 11, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 02/11/2013 3:06:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Christopher Dorner is a canvas onto which we can project our national anxieties and obsessions. Christopher Dorner is racialized as an African American. He is gendered as a male. Christopher Dorner represents authority, conformity, and State power, as a (former) police officer. Those identities are intersectional.

For some, Christopher Dorner is a hero who dared to speak truth to power and run ramshackle over the LAPD and those he identified as his enemies. To them, Dorner has Eric Hobsbawn’s “social banditry” flowing in his veins.

For others, he is a criminal who went “crazy” and offered up a manifesto like those “liberals” have a habit of doing. As with Trayvon Martin, what you see may largely be a function of where you sit politically, ideologically, and racially. Ultimately, Dorner is the object who represents the intermixing of several long-standing American cultural and historical narratives; he is a nexus, a focal point for the birth of many memes.

Donner is the African-American, “hulking, 270-pound former college football player” who is armed and dangerous. He is the 21st century echo of the “giant negroes” who attacked “innocent” white people as heralded in sensationalistic American newspaper headlines in the late 19th and early to mid 20th centuries.

Some others would like to argue that he is Bigger Thomas or Tarantino’s reimagined Django.

I would suggest that Donner has little if anything in common with the former, Richard Wright’s iconic character, except for being black and male.

Jamie Foxx’s Django is more compelling. However, while the allusion is pithy and timely, Dorner is not fighting the white slaveocracy, living out a fairy tale slavery counter-factual, and willing to die (and kill) for the love of a good woman. Dorner and Django are both forces of vengeance; however, their goals are not the same...

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KEYWORDS: chrisdorner; racism
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1 posted on 02/11/2013 3:06:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whoever wrote the article spent way too much time in gender studies class. Something about an open mind and the chance your brain will fall out.


2 posted on 02/11/2013 3:15:14 PM PST by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone on another thread suggested that he was the first American to get hit with a drone attack on American soil. You think he torched his own truck and disappeared?


3 posted on 02/11/2013 3:17:18 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Christopher Dorner is a canvas onto which we can project our national anxieties and obsessions. Christopher Dorner is racialized as an African American. He is gendered as a male. Christopher Dorner represents authority, conformity, and State power, as a (former) police officer. Those identities are intersectional.

So he's intersectional and has been gendered?

A) Sounds painful.

B) Could explain a lot.

C) Huh?

4 posted on 02/11/2013 3:18:25 PM PST by x
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a real life example of what a Henry Bowman could do.


5 posted on 02/11/2013 3:23:01 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Christopher Dorner is a canvas onto which we can project our national anxieties and obsessions. Christopher Dorner is racialized as an African American. He is gendered as a male. Christopher Dorner represents authority, conformity, and State power, as a (former) police officer. Those identities are intersectional.”

Too much effort trying to sound intellectual.


6 posted on 02/11/2013 3:26:36 PM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cop goes rogue starts shooting at other cops?

It's not really a racial thing, is it?

I guess if you've spent a lot of time with race and gender studies Dorner can look like a treasure trove of archetypes, but all that is extraneous stuff you bring to it.

7 posted on 02/11/2013 3:31:34 PM PST by x
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

oh goody yet another stupid and irresponsible rumor from the tin foil hat crowd


8 posted on 02/11/2013 3:31:50 PM PST by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think the guy is a deranged scumbag who has done nothing but murder innocent people. He killed people who had nothing to do with his grievances.
9 posted on 02/11/2013 3:33:01 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I heard and read a lot of the same idiotic rationalizing from the usual leftist nutjobs back in the seventies. “Power to the people... kill whitey...tear down the system.” To be replaced with what? Marxist murderers, that’s what. This jerk murders three people, but that’s all right because somebody didn’t like him. (Undoubtably, for good reasons.) So he gets to kill them. Let’s not judge the poor fellow too harshly. Sorry, typical leftist bovine fecal matter.


10 posted on 02/11/2013 3:33:53 PM PST by driftless2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Never mind all of that, he's a test of the professionalism of the LAPD, and they have demonstrated what MONUMENTAL FAIL means.

dorner newspaper shoot pickup cops lapd

lapd wrong pickup shoot ladies truck

Now those Bozos want to use drones...
drone chris dorner lapd mistake find

11 posted on 02/11/2013 3:44:03 PM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"He is the 21st century echo of the “giant negroes” who attacked “innocent” white people"

Funny, its the 'mobs' or 'packs' of negroes youths attacking innocent whites that I see in the news every single day...
12 posted on 02/11/2013 3:44:40 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: x

Did you check out his victims? http://www.google.com/search?q=Monica+Quan+and+Keith+Lawrence&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=p4EZUff6OIW2qQG9soHgDA&ved=0CD8QsAQ&biw=925&bih=45 ~ rather multi-racial Fur Shur ~ the cop was a white dude.


13 posted on 02/11/2013 3:50:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: 45semi

Actually, the people he killed were asian and hispanic


14 posted on 02/11/2013 3:52:04 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn
I know, I was just quoting the article.

"Donner is the African-American, “hulking, 270-pound former college football player” who is armed and dangerous. He is the 21st century echo of the “giant negroes” who attacked “innocent” white people as heralded in sensationalistic American newspaper headlines in the late 19th and early to mid 20th centuries"
15 posted on 02/11/2013 3:53:50 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And like the George Zimmerman case, we don’t want to let the facts get in the way of a good story. Maybe if the media would just report the facts and quit speculating this wouldn’t be one of those ‘make it what you want it to be’ stories.


16 posted on 02/11/2013 4:00:57 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s a fruitcake.


17 posted on 02/11/2013 4:21:05 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suspect there is a lot more to Mr. Dorner than meets the eye. Ponder these things:

1) Born in New York and raised in Los Angeles would be typical for a leftist-liberal. However, for college he went to Southern Utah University, nicknamed “Brigham Young University South”, a mostly Mormon, ultra-conservative college, where students sign a no-alcohol pledge and prayer is mandatory.

For a leftist-liberal, this would be hell itself, but he did quite well, earning a degree in *political science*, with a minor in *psychology*. Both subjects worthy of note.

2) In the US Navy Reserves he became a Lieutenant (O-3), equivalent to an Army Captain. It also means his job performance was good enough to be promoted twice, and to voluntarily stay on for 11 years, even though he could have left after 4.

3) In the US Navy Reserves his two primary assignments was harbor and port underwater security, and riverine (patrol boat) operations. Though stationed in Bahrain, both of these jobs can involve combat, maybe a lot of combat.

Dorner is the recipient of the following military citations:

National Defense Service Medal
Iraq Campaign Medal
Global War on Terrorism Service Medal
Navy Sea Service Deployment Ribbon
Navy and Marine Corps Overseas Service Ribbon
Armed Forces Reserve Medal with “M” device
Navy Rifle Marksmanship Ribbon
Navy Expert Pistol Shot Medal

4) Getting employed by the ultra liberal, politically correct and thoroughly corrupt LAPD must have been a shock. He had disciplinary problems of a type you would expect from somebody with a very rigorous moral background.

5) His “manifesto” is very questionable. This is where the political science and psychology come into play. He would have known exactly what would happen when this got out.


18 posted on 02/11/2013 4:21:52 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Getting employed by the ultra liberal, politically correct and thoroughly corrupt LAPD must have been a shock.

The LAPD was thoroughly corrupt long before it was ultra-liberal or politically correct (assuming it's those things now).

Some of his complaints are those young cops would have had with the old, anything but liberal LAPD.

He had disciplinary problems of a type you would expect from somebody with a very rigorous moral background.

There is some of that, but he also complains a lot about racism.

Crazy people can't always be pidgeonholed politically or ideologically. They can be all over the ordinary ideological map or completely off it.

Dorner is more political than the other shooters we've heard about recently, but his problems (so far as I can tell) go deeper than politics or ideology.

19 posted on 02/11/2013 4:32:41 PM PST by x
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

FWIW - Southern Utah U seems to have been an unpleasant experience for him - he didn’t like being one of the few blacks there and he developed a strong antipathy for Mormons.

Maybe that is why he ended up so pro-gay? Because of the Mormons and Prop 18, enemy of my enemy and all that?

He’s a smart enough guy - he should have known what he was getting into. He didn’t like being one of the few blacks in his elementary school either.


20 posted on 02/11/2013 4:38:49 PM PST by heartwood
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To: x

That might very well be the case, but with his background it might be a combination of crazy and smart. If he did a proper military style plan, every moment he is walking around is a moment of “execution” of that plan.

If he has set up caches of equipment and supplies, he can operate for a long time. And he can leave the state once the immediate heat has worn off for resupply.

My biggest fear is that he mentioned training in demolitions. A bomber can wreak havoc on a major metropolitan area, and if he is skilled, is extremely hard to catch and stop.


21 posted on 02/11/2013 4:44:44 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Christopher Dorner is racialized as an African American. He is gendered as a male.

Almost too much neurosis here to comment on. What the use of passive voice transitive verbs do here is to beg the question (precise use of that term) of who, or what, is doing this "racializing" and, heaven help us, "gendering".

But these are questions that cannot be skirted. "Gender" is not, of course, a verb, nor does it apply to human beings, who have sexes. Words have genders. Human beings are not words. That aside, clearly race and gender are to be considered here as something to be imposed on an individual from the outside, either by society as a whole or by the applicable class identifications of race and "gender". The author is not clear on that, and for a very good reason. Those, however, are also not human beings and do no actual imposing on their own.

Clearly the fellow is black, but that is neither a judgment of society nor of black people as a whole, it is not really a social construct at all. And clearly the fellow is a male, but it wasn't society who made him that way, nor if he suddenly declared himself to be a female and underwent surgery and hormone treatment, is that going to make every cell in his body one whit less male. That isn't really a social construct either despite the grim determination of the ideologically liberated.

Reduced of the asphyxiating strictures of Advanced Social Thought, he's a black guy. OK, fine.

Christopher Dorner represents authority, conformity, and State power, as a (former) police officer.

Again, to whom? This business of interpreting human beings as symbols or representations instead of individuals has become pathologically abused and, once again, the perpetrator is deftly ignored by the author's rhetoric. He represents bipeds to the four-footed, air-breathers to a fish, truck-drivers to the cyclically inclined. So what? This is intellectual fluff, fine for freshman dorm pot parties but of little use in the real world except to blame people other than the individual for the individual's actions. Which is clearly what is in play here.

In fact, the construction "He is a black/white/yellow/red man/woman going to war to defend the rights and virtue of all black/white/yellow/red men/women" is some of the silliest stuff ever to issue from a defense attorney's mouth. He is, or is alleged to be, an individual killing other individual people for a personal grudge, and neither he nor his victims should be regarded merely as a symbol or a representation of anything, because symbols don't bleed. Here the sort of Advanced Social Thought typified by the cringe-making quotations above shows its true colors as profoundly dehumanizing and ultimately degrading both to its objects and its True Believers.

22 posted on 02/11/2013 4:50:03 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: rdcbn

“Actually, the people he killed were asian and hispanic”

And black.


23 posted on 02/11/2013 4:51:38 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Paladin2

The massive police overreaction is an interesting addition.


24 posted on 02/11/2013 5:12:38 PM PST by Stentor (Shhhh!)
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To: dljordan

“Too much effort trying to sound intellectual.”

You make a very good point. I was in a graduate class one day and one of the students gave a report on something. There were no words that could be put together to make sense and they were big words.

After he finished, the professior said immediately, “Did anyone understand anything he said?” I love that professor for telling the truth right then - I had to smile.

Some years later, I was in a session I had to take to keep my license as a professional counselor - I had many years of experience and more education in this field than the presenters did. These young men doing the presentation started talking in big words. Finally, I had enough. I said, “You have taken what we already do and given it new big words in order to write this and get your doctorate.” Then, I got up and left. My name was already marked as being present, and I wasn’t going to listen to more of this crap.

Your statement reminded me of those two instances.


25 posted on 02/11/2013 5:35:50 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Stentor

It’s difficult to have a Police State without the Police.


26 posted on 02/11/2013 5:35:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: x
"..his problems (so far as I can tell) go deeper than politics or ideology.... "

Signing up for more than 2 or 3 psychology courses is a strong indicator of an unhealthy mind.

27 posted on 02/11/2013 5:39:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ifinnegan

But hey, he really stuck it to da man!

Thats all that matters


28 posted on 02/11/2013 5:43:00 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: heartwood

There is no indication that he didn’t like his time at SUU. It certainly didn’t hurt his studies, if you consider how few college students even bother to graduate with a minor these days.

I find it hard to imagine a liberal trying to tough it out at a very conservative school, when he could take the easy path at some liberal school much closer to his home in LA. Even if his parents browbeat him into going to a *more* conservative school, because California is so terribly leftard, there is a multitude of choices for “more conservative”, in most of the West and South.

Heck, even most conservatives would not want to tough it out at SUU. I know I wouldn’t, though I have no animosity to Mormons, their lifestyle is duller than dishwater.

However, he might actually be politically conservative, maybe what could be called a “radical conservative”, like Alan Keyes, who was pushed so hard that he went on the warpath.

In that situation, I might follow a strategy of publicly embracing leftists, knowing I would be hideously unpopular, and throwing a wrench into the media machine.


29 posted on 02/12/2013 6:16:57 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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