Skip to comments.Next Time, the NRA Will Lose
Posted on 05/02/2013 4:14:09 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
How stupid does the Senate background-check vote look now, I ask the pundits and others who thought it was dumb politics for Obama and the Democrats to push for a vote that they obviously knew they were going to lose. Id say not very stupid at all. The nosedive taken in the polls by a number of senators who voted against the bill, most of them in red states, makes public sentiment here crystal clear. And now, for the first time since arguably right after the Reagan assassination attempta damn long time, in other wordslegislators in Washington are feeling political heat on guns that isnt coming from the NRA. This bill will come back to the Senate, maybe before the August recess, and it already seems possible and maybe even likely to have 60 votes next time.
Youve seen the poll results showing at least five senators who voted against the Manchin-Toomey bill losing significant support. Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire is the only one of the five from a blue state, so its probably not surprising that she lost the most, 15 points. But Lisa Murkowski in Alaska lost about as much in net terms. Alaskas other senator, Democrat Mark Begich, lost about half that. Republicans Rob Portman of Ohio and Jeff Flake of Arizona also tumbled.
Egad. Could it possibly be that those pre-vote polls of all these states by Mayor Bloombergs group were ... right? All the clever people pooh-poohed them, because, well, they were done by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, and because it just seemed impossible that 70 percent of people from a red state could support the bill. But the polls were evidently right, or at least a lot closer to right than the brilliant minds who laughed at Joe Manchin and Pat Toomey....
(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...
What alternate reality is this guy living in?
Desperate screeching due to the fact that reality is intruding on their fantasy.
Michael Tomasky (born 1960) is a liberal American columnist, journalist and author. He is the editor in chief of Democracy, a special correspondent for Newsweek / The Daily Beast, a contributing editor for The American Prospect, and a contributor to The New York Review of Books.
If anything, RINO Senators like mine (Chambliss) caught hell for their vote for it. Got my obligatory form letter from him after I called him a traitor. It said, “I support gun rights blah blah blah....I support the second amendment blah blah blah, but I voted for universal background checks to stop crazy people from getting guns....blah blah blah.
One big ass effing traitor. Isakson, too. Chambliss is already gone (retired in place and will do a lot of damage). Isakson follows lock step. I’m gonna primary him when he’s up for re-election, or vote for his opponent in the general. NO MORE EFFING RINOs.
I wouldn't put money on that.
The same reality that makes Mooch-elle think her ass is slender and that Kenyan-born goofus she married is a Christian.
They live in parallel universes . . . incredibly out of touch.
I admire the fact that the Left does not abandon their wounded comrades, and they do not accept defeat.
In the case of “gun control”, they had a very expensive AstroTurf operation all ready to go, targeting Senators who voted “no” on Manchin-Toomey. It’s very impressive how they have deployed OFA drones all over New Hampshire (accompanied by NYT reporters, of course) to harass Kelly Ayotte everywhere she goes.
We have nothing like this.
Well if you tell a big enough lie long enough people might start believing it.
To our defense, we aren’t despicable enough to pay relatives of those killed by gun violence to fly around the country to heckle senators.
With the huge amount of guns and ammo sold in the past year I kinda think those who want to protect their Second Amendment rights will continue to win. Those who go after them will be unemployed.
don’t scoff...the left loves to chip away at our freedoms
Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty"
(often attributed to Thomas Jefferson)
Make no mistake, they are pushing to have the government in control of our basic civil rights such as the right of self-defense.
As usual, the Proppressives are playing with words and lies to disguise what they are doing Schumer came out and said his goal was the precursor to Confiscation Universal Registration.
With Universal Registration, the government will be in control of the second amendment and the rest of your civil rights.
After they attain that control they can move on to pushing their Assault Weapon Scam and any other disarmament schemes they can hatch at their leisure.
This is why they continue to push this its the whole enchilada for them.
Just last week one of our local left leaning moderate newspaper columnists warned that the left was making a big mistake in pursuing the 90% lie.
He pointed out that plenty of liberals own guns including himself and he knows the facts don’t match the rhetoric coming from the left. He called it insulting to be treated like he was too stupid to recognize the lie.
His political analysis is that as time moves voters further from the emotional event that may have driven over reaction, that pressure will increase on those who did not cave last time.
agreed they will face a daunting task taking all Americas weapons.
but the point is to NOT let it get to that point.
we need to fight from the get go...in the Senate, in the house.
We need the republicans to stop fighting a perpetual defense and go on the offense.
The propagandists think they can yell loud enough to convince the senators and that the tide is turning and the voters that it is inevitable.
The source of this “news”, Public Policy Polling, is wholly owned and operated by the Democrat party.
Both the poll and the article are targeted attacks on the named senators and free advertising for the Democrats.
Let's talk after the 2014 election, Mikey.
The problem all these leftists have is that they need a defined group to demonize.
They were terrified of the Tea Party at the beginning because the Tea Party was just folks coming out of everywhere and they could not define exactly who they were, or put a face on them.
Gun owners are like Tea Party and the left can’t admit why they lose this battle. They cannot understand that every gun owner is not NRA. Gun owners are just Americans of all walks exercising their 2nd amendment rights.
The left may be evil, but they are mostly made up of dimwits. They can’t do anything well except they are good at destruction of all they touch.
Yeah, consider the leftist source. And of course, lefties haven’t yet figured out how to jigger the polling... < /sarc >
Easy. Guns for food. You wanna eat?
All the armies, law enforcement personnel and paramilitary forces in the world, even if they were magically transported to America and given rudimentary, pidgin English lessons, couldn't do it in a determined effort of 100 years. PERIOD.
How many of those millions of gun owners have two years worth of food and can keep it safe from their starving neighbors, 24/7?
All the Mormons, preppers, country folk, etc.
Our traitorous Senators from Georgia would explain that their vote to end the filibuster was a “strategic” vote. They wanted to force Democrats go on record as supporting the incredibly unpopular (despite what they claim their push-poll shows) bill.
I would rather make sure that crap like that doesn’t make it to the Senate floor.
You're not thinking well. "Mormons, preppers, country folk" have to sleep, nearly always in a spot without backup. I said 24-7 for two years.
That's what the "well regulated militia" is all about: "well regulated" means they get regular practice and sustain an organizational architecture that takes appropriate measures for logistical support. While for decades Americans did maintain their vigilance, we don't do that any more in significant numbers. It's reality. Believe it or not, it's also Biblical.
For the most part the rep party is a bunch of pansy@$$es
Yep....they will also come back here and say “I voted for it before I voted against it” or “I voted only for the important one” or “I voted no on the really important one”
They are both traitors to Conservatives, Georgia and to this nation. They aren’t Americans; they are Politicians.
In other words, he is a homosexual loving, communist loving, anti-Christian, anti-American, punk. Did I get that right?
The MSM is pushing big lie and Goebling public opinions.
No opposition voices allowed.
No exposing bloomberg propaganda money.
BTW BLOOMBERG HAS NOT SPENT ONE SINGLE DIME TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR SECURITY AT SCHOOLS. Bloomberg is only waiting for the next death to pounce like a vulture eating carrion.
Nanny Bloomberg wants blood, needs blood, will have blood by design.
Sounds right to me.
What the hell is this moron yammering about? Are they running polls now like elections, where Democrats get five votes each?
This guy is seriously divorced from reality.
Once confiscation starts, many folks will no longer show up for work or go home. A guerrilla war will then be active and hot. Not sure how it'll land, but that's war.
Exactly. At that point preparation of logistical support is what it will all be about. that's the Biblical part.
One might say that if things get rough he will cry alot and look for someone with a gun to protect his candy a##
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