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NRA sounds ready for a revolution
The Home News Tribune | May 7, 2013 | Bruno Ripp

Posted on 05/09/2013 8:01:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Link only due to copyright issues: http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20130509/NJOPINION0202/305090006/


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: banglist; cw2; guncontrol; nra; palin; secondamendment
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1 posted on 05/09/2013 8:01:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Link to article: http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20130509/NJOPINION0202/305090006/


2 posted on 05/09/2013 8:01:30 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The so-called keepers of the Second Amendment, the NRA — a supposedly nonpartisan organization, at least that is how they are represented — is presented as follows:

The VERY FIRST line of the linked article. Please tell my why I should have a comment beyond that?

Also, when you try to back out of their damned site, they refresh you back to the same page. I HATE THAT!

3 posted on 05/09/2013 8:04:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Don’t you love that New Jersey state of mind, though?


4 posted on 05/09/2013 8:08:05 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s from New Jersey. Nothing good comes from New Jersey.


5 posted on 05/09/2013 8:08:39 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The guy repeatedly states that the call to fight tyranny is radically “insane”, yet in his closing statement he concludes that such a fight against tyranny in the U.S. would be futile because the government has tanks, drones, and a powerful military at its disposal against citizens.

See the irony here?

Also, notice he fails to quote the country’s founding fathers who warned us about tyranny and wrote about how to dispatch with it.


6 posted on 05/09/2013 8:09:22 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: Obadiah

Bruno needs to read this:

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


7 posted on 05/09/2013 8:12:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Obadiah
If tanks, drones and a “powerful” military are so key, why didn't we win in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea and Somalia?
8 posted on 05/09/2013 8:15:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Source is a letter to the editor post.

It is by Bruno Ripp.

Web search only shows one “Bruno Ripp” in the US.

He is in Warren Township in NJ.

Here is a link that is a petition to the US Conference of Mayors, his name is on it.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/74413211/Free-Press-Petition-to-US-Conference-of-Mayors

That petition pertains to Free Speech and the Occupy movement.

He is a ComDem Crazy!


9 posted on 05/09/2013 8:17:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

why didn’t we win in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea and Somalia?

Answer: the UN,


10 posted on 05/09/2013 8:17:42 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Gaffer

a supposedly nonpartisan organization

They gave dirty Harry money for his last election.


11 posted on 05/09/2013 8:20:43 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Gaffer

Thanks for saving me some time and a little spleen.


12 posted on 05/09/2013 8:20:57 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Texas Fossil

I didn’t figure he was a Republican officeholder and Tea Party stalwart in Mississippi.


13 posted on 05/09/2013 8:22:09 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Texas Fossil

I’d bet if one were to dig even deeper they’d likely find that Bruno is also part of Media Matters or Organizing America.


14 posted on 05/09/2013 8:24:10 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here is a blast from the past, 1930s I think.


15 posted on 05/09/2013 8:26:05 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: chuckles

Bruno? New Jersey?

The guy is probably named after the guy that kidnapped the Lindbergh baby.


16 posted on 05/09/2013 8:29:10 AM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great link. Thanks. I hadn’t seen that.


17 posted on 05/09/2013 8:29:17 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: Obadiah

“...that such a fight against tyranny in the U.S. would be futile because the government has tanks, drones, and a powerful military at its disposal against citizens.”

Indeed the power of the military is great.

However, the vast, vast majority of the military is populated by men and woman possessing much more knowledge of the constitution than do congress-critters.

And they have sworn to protect the constitution, not the critters.

Were we to get to the state of revolution, I fully expect all honorable military to point their weapons at the critters...and do what they feel best.


18 posted on 05/09/2013 8:29:33 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah...big laughs...why do we even bother to listen to anything from there, or buy their products?


19 posted on 05/09/2013 8:31:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First off, the NRA was never about the Second Amendment, that has been a recent development. The NRA coined the phrase 100+ years ago, “Sporting Purposes of Firearms”. The NRA gave us every last federal, and many State, gun control bills for the past 100 years, including the 1934 NFA and the 1968 GCA.

Until the NRA starts undoing the damage they did in those bills they will never have my support.


20 posted on 05/09/2013 8:34:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It reads exactly like it smells when I step in dog sh!t.

LLS


21 posted on 05/09/2013 8:34:24 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You say you’ll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it’s the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right


22 posted on 05/09/2013 8:45:45 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In each of these campaigns we engaged in limited warfare. It was not total war as in the sense of our strategy in World War II.

World War II - Win
Desert Storm I - Win (if we confine the objective to kicking Iraq out of Kuwait)
Iraq - Too early to tell
Afghanistan - Currently engaged
Vietnam - Loss
Korea - Tie
Somalia - Loss

Desert Storm I is the anamoly in this group in that we didn’t engage in Total War, but we did employ a stronger strategy in kicking Iraq out of Kuwait.

As you can see, anything less than total war brings about sorry results.


23 posted on 05/09/2013 8:48:43 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Gaffer

open all links in a new tab. Then you can close whatever you want. I usually go through the new posts and just right click and open the ones I want to read, then close as I am finished. By the way, firefox will soon be blocking all cookies. LOVE that.


24 posted on 05/09/2013 8:51:03 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The commies figured in the 60’s they will have to murder 25 million Americans to kick off Utopia in the US.

The Muslim Lincoln wannabe in the white hut wants a reaction for an excuse to arrest his white Christian American enemies so badly. Gun confiscation would be the match to light the fuse. He knows it. He wants it.

Lefties love, poverty, oppression, blood and death. They hate America and Americans.


25 posted on 05/09/2013 9:12:07 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Da Coyote

IF THE RUSSIAN MILITARY TURNED ITS GUNS ON THE POLITBURO... WHAT MAKES ANY FESTERING CARBUNCLE OF A DIM THINK THAT OUR MILITARY... WHO SEES THEMSELVES UNDER ATTACK BY THE DIM PARTY... WHAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT THE US MILITARY WILL KILL THEIR OWN FAMILIES AND NEIGHBORS WHEN THE ENEMY IS SITTING IN DC?

Sorry for the caps but I am pi$$ed.

LLS


26 posted on 05/09/2013 9:31:00 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If tanks, drones and a “powerful” military are so key, why didn't we win in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea and Somalia?

Exactly - if those places proved too hard to crack, what do folks think would happen if it really became a war between the People and the government?

27 posted on 05/09/2013 9:41:23 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: CodeToad
First off, the NRA was never about the Second Amendment, that has been a recent development. The NRA coined the phrase 100+ years ago, “Sporting Purposes of Firearms”. The NRA gave us every last federal, and many State, gun control bills for the past 100 years, including the 1934 NFA and the 1968 GCA.

More recently, in Wyoming: NRA pushing gun control in Wyoming? Gun Control bill sponsor says that the NRA drafted and supported his gun control scheme.

28 posted on 05/09/2013 9:45:40 AM PDT by archy
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To: archy

Doesn’t that just piss you off? The NRA, for no reason that is known, pushes State legislatures to ban firearms from county buildings. Why? Who possible motive could there be?


29 posted on 05/09/2013 9:55:25 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: mountainlion

“They gave dirty Harry money for his last election.”

To be honest, the NRA did not back Dirty Harry in his last election but they did in the previous election. Harry Reid won that election and is still here thanks to the NRA.


30 posted on 05/09/2013 9:56:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: chuckles
Nothing good comes from New Jersey.

Apparently if you are governor they feed you extremely well.

31 posted on 05/09/2013 10:47:26 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: ealgeone

I disagree with your characterization of Vietnam as a loss.


32 posted on 05/09/2013 11:06:54 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

I can understand due to the political hamstrings placed on the military in the war, but the fact remains North Vietnam won and “united” the country.

The side the U.S. backed lost....as did the U.S.


33 posted on 05/09/2013 11:28:22 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: ealgeone

I’m not sure I understand your premise. North Vietnam attacked South Vietnam two years after we had signed a peace treaty and removed active troops. How do their actions after the war ended effect who won the war? If Iraq invaded Kuwait tomorrow would that change Gulf War 1 to a loss?


34 posted on 05/09/2013 12:20:50 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

I think the general consensus is that we “lost” in Vietnam. This is due largely to the tactics the military were limited to by the politicians.

The point I was trying to make though was that we fought a limited war in Vietnam. We never “played to win”. That kind of strategy is usually not successful in war...or sports for that matter.

I understand your point that the North invaded the South after our withdrawal and it’s a valid one.

I’m just saying I don’t think history will view our efforts in South Vietnam as successful.


35 posted on 05/09/2013 12:32:05 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: ealgeone
I think you are referring to the liberal general consensus.

We never lost a major battle in Vietnam. The much vaunted "Tet Offensive" turned to a massive rout for northern forces. We crushed them in every conceivable way, we even invented brand spanking new ways to kill commies. This despite whiny college students and their idiotic stoner "peace" rallies, and the "peace" movement being coordinated and funded by the soviets.

Could we have crushed them in a more spectacular fashion? Sure I guess so but that still doesn't mean we lost in any realistic way.

Further we can see that the efforts were in every practical sense very successful. We went there to stop or slow the spread of communism, failing that, to at least bleed them and it worked.

Less than 20 years later the Soviet union collapsed.

36 posted on 05/09/2013 1:04:53 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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