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IRS Scandal, Why Isn't it a Diversion?
Self | 5-18-2013 | Sequoyah101

Posted on 05/17/2013 10:49:28 PM PDT by Sequoyah101

My Dad often said: "Intrigue only begat intrigue". He was usually right. One conspiracy leads to another like a room full of mirrors reflecting themselves.

Still, here goes.

I have been watching Youtube collections of stuff from the talking heads and interviews today. I am cementing my earlier view... this IRS abuse is a massive smoke screen to hide something even bigger from attention. A lose the battle win the war tactic. Sure, this IRS scandal is a big deal and it is just the kind of attack on liberty all the right can get behind. Just the kind of terrible problem Obama needs to ride to the rescue to solve so that he can appear presidential. As bumbling as the effort appears he could still pull it off.

The performance by Miller today was just too bizarre. Nobody that gets that far is that stupid or obtuse unless it is on purpose. Are they?

1. This is an emotive issue sure to capture the public attention 2. Congress must act with outrage 3. The media is being far too cooperative 4. Miller is way too smug. He is either unbelievably arrogant or intentionally acting bizarre. Just plain bizarre. He makes outrageous statements and contradictions of the IG report and even himself. Classic diversion? The guy going out anyway who was not even the director when all this happened but awfully close to the action. 5. Why the big orchestration of the “leak” on Friday at the Bar Association meeting by Lois Lerner? To what purpose? 6. IRS says we gave poor customer service, we made mistakes, we acted inappropriately, we apologise? Strange. And then ostoner says the acts are alleged and if they are true we are will take “appropriate” action? Then he comes out and is outraged? Come on. I've seen crocodile tears before and can recognize them. 7. An opportunity to change the tax code? It makes no difference to ostoner how taxes are collected just as long as there are lots of them to redistribute. If he can give the sheeple what they want and still get what he wants... what does it matter how he gets it? Besides, it gives the stupid congressionals something to work on and not bother or watch him and his gang of criminals.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: diversion; irs; obama
I'm sure this is nuts and the equivalent of a birther point of view. I sure hope it is.
1 posted on 05/17/2013 10:49:28 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: null and void

Nutjob ping.


2 posted on 05/17/2013 10:53:11 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Sequoyah101

The IRS scandal can be blamed on someone else, Benghazi can’t.


3 posted on 05/17/2013 10:56:17 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: Sequoyah101

There are 70k pages of tax regulations. I have doubt that there’s any law violated in this case (why would Congress have even written such a law?). The end-result? This will run for two months and there’s bound to be six people fired by the end....all low level. That’s it.

As for the President? It’s going to be eventually agreed that the President doesn’t know anything about whats going on, and probably even knows less than Justin Bieber on international events...except that he watches the news (which he continually admits is how he finds out about terrible things).


4 posted on 05/17/2013 10:57:27 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Yes, the TC is so huge and nebulous I doubt there is any actual law broken. We live in a grey world of discretionary prosecution. They can get anyone for breaking a law if they want to and find a reason to let anyone go if they don’t want them.


5 posted on 05/17/2013 11:03:24 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101

I agree this is flowing to easy,just feel like something just not right, Media is flowing way to easy. Not diminishing what God can do, but just waiting for hammer to fall.I Pray Iam wrong.


6 posted on 05/17/2013 11:15:45 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: easternsky

I agree. Nervous at how easy this is...


7 posted on 05/17/2013 11:46:04 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: pepsionice

I think the immediate hope and prayer is that they (the dims and the press) can catch any Republican in a misstatement of the supposed facts...however minor it is.....in any of these “troubling events”. Then, they can accuse the Republicans of an obvious lying, partisanship witch-hunt to try to “Impeach another Democrat President.
These Republicans have no shame.”

They will then focus on that and sweep the original scandal off the radar.


8 posted on 05/17/2013 11:53:16 PM PDT by Benjamin Dover (This tagline space for rent)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Sit in the truck!...we’ll handle this one....*S*


9 posted on 05/17/2013 11:56:29 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Sequoyah101
Yes, the TC is so huge and nebulous I doubt there is any actual law broken. We live in a grey world of discretionary prosecution. They can get anyone for breaking a law if they want to and find a reason to let anyone go if they don’t want them.

Like in the old Communist block countries, they would say, "Show me the man, and I'll show you the paragraph."

obama irs gestapo scandal conservative corruption    irs evil diabolical corrupt tyrants gestapo

The I.R.S. - Obama's Gestapo.


10 posted on 05/18/2013 12:21:21 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Sequoyah101
What people don't realize is that the IRS rigged the election of 2012 for Obama and the democrats/socialists in the Senate.

The IRS made many conservative groups disband so that they couldn't do get out the vote . The IRS stole the election. but the media wants to make it seem like it was just low level employees targeting a few conservative groups. no it was intimidating groups with the threat of perjury to make them disband, many of them in battleground states with the goal of rigging the election for Obama and many democrats/socialists congressmen.

The IRS also waited to approve tax exempt status for many groups until after the election. they couldn't function as they didn't want to pay taxes on donations

11 posted on 05/18/2013 1:44:44 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Sequoyah101

Kinda makes a person wonder just how to neuter the IRS against attacks prior to the NEXT elections.


12 posted on 05/18/2013 1:47:31 AM PDT by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors. Asymmetrical Warfare.)
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To: Democrat_media; Sequoyah101

This last election was stolen, on so many levels.

Vote fraud at the precinct and state level.

Crippled conservative party group organizations.

Crippled conservative party GOTV effort.


13 posted on 05/18/2013 1:51:59 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Democrat_media; Sequoyah101

This last election was stolen, on so many levels.

Vote fraud at the precinct and state level.

Crippled conservative party group organizations.

Crippled conservative party GOTV effort.


14 posted on 05/18/2013 1:51:59 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

and a really bad GOPe candidate


15 posted on 05/18/2013 1:53:56 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: doc1019
The IRS scandal can be blamed on someone else, Benghazi can’t.

Depends. When it comes to the buck's ultimate resting place, the military chain of command is quite clear. Four Americans dead. No attempt at help from the CINC. Obama's fault!

The civilian chain of command is more muddled. But ultimately, as the Donkees know, "A fish rots from the head first."

Ultimately, everything that goes wrong in the federal government is Obama's fault!

16 posted on 05/18/2013 1:55:45 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: thecodont

Would be worth thinking of a possible class action lawsuit against the IRS for targeting GOP voters, maybe we can win a free year or two of filing exemptions against the IRS.


17 posted on 05/18/2013 1:55:47 AM PDT by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors. Asymmetrical Warfare.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Do you want to know which scandal has legs? Do yourself a favor. Take the next few days and conduct your own poll among family, friends and acquaintances:

1) What is the Benghazi scandal?
2) What is the IRS scandal?

Compare notes and proceed accordingly.

In my personal experience, IRS wins in a landslide. And that’s *before* the revelation of “What’s the content of your prayers?”

Wow, if this is a planned distraction, it’s the equivalent of dynamiting your house to put out a kitchen fire.


18 posted on 05/18/2013 2:12:53 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: kevao

On the surface, I agree with you. BUT,COULD the Benghazi issue be much, much more than we currently realize. That the legacy media is too willing to cover the IRS issue just “don’t sit right.” For the want of a better term, “wag the dog” just seems like a viable scenario.


19 posted on 05/18/2013 3:55:02 AM PDT by hatter ( Cr*p. Just realized I'm still "it" from a game of Tag in 1969.)
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To: Sequoyah101

20 posted on 05/18/2013 4:03:38 AM PDT by Casie (democrats destroy)
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To: Sequoyah101

The timing of the release and manner of release of the IG report has me scratching my head. The thing is it’s not just the rats that despise the Tea Party patriots and other conservative groups. There are many rinos and GOPe that were sweating the primaries and were (are) less than enthused with working with true conservatives.

IMO Benghazi is the most serious issue, never did I ever think the US would turn its back on an embassy under attack. Really does anyone trust the IRS or DOJ?


21 posted on 05/18/2013 4:09:11 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: kevao; Sequoyah101
While what you say about the immediate impact of the IRS scandal is true, you missed the following more significant questions:

1) Which scandal does the regime know Obama’s fingerprints are on and do they feel less able to defend him on?

They planned the IRS targeting in advance and would have been better about to construct firewalls to protect Obama.

The Benghazi travesty was not planned in advance. Even the Benghazi cover-up was ad libbed. If Benghazi is pursued to the end Obama falls on malfeasance or dereliction.

2) Which scandal is a greater threat to Democrat presidential chances in 2016?

Obama can't run in 2016 while Hillary is by far their top contender. She can't be touched on the IRS, but her (and Obama’s) fingerprints are undeniably all over Benghazi.

22 posted on 05/18/2013 4:25:22 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix

You nailed it


23 posted on 05/18/2013 4:27:44 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: doc1019
The IRS scandal can be blamed on someone else, Benghazi can’t

But the IRS crimes can cause the removal of the President, and Benghazi can't.

24 posted on 05/18/2013 4:40:30 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Sequoyah101

IRS Criminal Complaint

For all litigants:
18 USC 241, Conspiracy against Rights
18 USC 242, Deprivation of Rights Under the Color of the Law
18 USC 595, Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments
18 USC 873; Blackmail
18 USC 1905; Disclosure of confidential information
18 USC 1001; Fraud and False Statements
18 USC 1961; RICO

For aggrieved religious organisations:
18 USC 247, Damage to Religious Property; obstruction of persons in free exercise of religious beliefs [pertinent section: 18 USC 247 (a) (2)]


25 posted on 05/18/2013 4:46:37 AM PDT by fifthvirginia (keeping their memory green)
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To: Jim Noble; SW6906; kevao; Sequoyah101

Unless Obama is also exposed as a lying untrustworthy weasel on Benghazi (and I believe he can be) too many people will be able to concede IRS guilt and even possibly Obama-campaign IRS guilt - while still maintaining that the Obama they were brainwashed into trusting was not involved.


26 posted on 05/18/2013 4:48:29 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
Unless Obama is also exposed as a lying untrustworthy weasel on Benghazi

Obama was reelected while being a known lying untrustworthy weasel, as was Clinton.

That only matters to people of honor, who make up abut 15% of the electorate.

27 posted on 05/18/2013 5:03:59 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Sequoyah101
This is about as basic as it gets:

IRS Mission Statement
Provide America's taxpayers top quality service by helping them understand and meet their tax responsibilities and enforce the law with integrity and fairness to all.

28 posted on 05/18/2013 5:23:23 AM PDT by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: doc1019
The IRS scandal can be blamed on someone else, Benghazi can’t.

That really is it in a nutshell.

29 posted on 05/18/2013 5:25:23 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sequoyah101
It was my impression that the Administration gave the IRS scandal to the press and to Congress. That would tend to support the idea that there is something far more potentially damaging to the administration there, perhaps in the Benghazi affair. Was Stevens given to the AQs as compensation for "getting" OBL?
30 posted on 05/18/2013 5:55:49 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: thecodont

The Left has control of all the touch screen voting machines and maybe some of the other electronic voting machines.They have concentrated on the presidency so far and maybe the Senate. That forbearance will not last.


31 posted on 05/18/2013 5:59:53 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: kevao

IRS wins in a landslide and is the scandal GIVEN to the Press and to Congress by the administration, What are the probable ramifications of that.


32 posted on 05/18/2013 6:01:43 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Sequoyah101

Pelosi Blames Bush For IRS Scandal

Thursday, May 16, 2013

Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) pointed out in her press conference today that former IRS commissioner Douglas Shulman was appointed under George W. Bush, and that the agency is seen to most people as “three scary initials.”

Read more: http://patriotupdate.com/2013/05/pelosi-blames-bush-for-irs-scandal/#ixzz2TeP3h1oX


33 posted on 05/18/2013 6:30:02 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: GeronL

Bingo.

That is the issue, all the rest is a huge distraction.

We need to advance, and support, real candidates.

Now.


34 posted on 05/18/2013 6:35:00 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: GeronL

Agreed—Much like Nixon, Obama needed little “help” to beat Romney.


35 posted on 05/18/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Sequoyah101

this IRS abuse is a massive smoke screen to hide something even bigger from attention


I think you are right, just like the birth certificate issue, to keep peoples mind off of something much worse.


36 posted on 05/18/2013 7:40:04 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf; drpix

ravenwolf ~:” this IRS abuse is a massive smoke screen to hide something even bigger from attention. “

“I think you are right, just like the birth certificate issue, to keep peoples mind off of something much worse.”

The IRS issue fulfills several libturd tactics:
#1) it was promulgated by a “planted Question” which the administration had a prepared answer , and Zero is not directly involved.
#2) the IRS issue is a feint tactic to distract from Banghazi which has both Obama’s and Hillary’s fingerprints on it.
#3) the outcome of Benghazi could impact on the next Presidential election since the two top contenders are directly involved.
#4) Dereliction of Duty allegations resulting in murder of four Americans would certainly impact on the next general elections.
#5) Obama needs another term to complete the Stateism and Socialist ideology takeover of America.
If Obama can’t do it himself , he will try to do it through a surrogate.
#6) This is Political CLOWARD-PIVEN (overwhelm the system-> creating chaos) and desensitizing the electorate to illegalities.


37 posted on 05/18/2013 9:52:33 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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