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What is really on trial in the Trayvon Martin murder case (Grab some wet-wipes)
The Los Angeles Wave ^ | June 13, 2013 | Anthony Asadullah Samad

Posted on 06/13/2013 6:47:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The case that shocked the nation, the Trayvon Martin murder case, has finally come to trial. The case has everything that intrigues, or is, America: xenophobia, race (or racism), guns, liberties debate and media hysteria.

It also has many of the conflictions that Americana brings about: self-defense, rights, free speech, public opinion, protest, fair trial, innocence before guilt, guilt before conviction, right-winged rhetoric, left-winged rhetoric, intelligent analysis, anti-intelligent debate, coherent prosecution, incoherent defense … all making for what will be a highly watched trial.

Will Trayvon’s death be vindicated? Or will the gun culture rationalize social fear as an acceptable defense?

Will race, or media hype, take over the case? Will George Zimmerman get off for acting within “the law” (a weak law, but the law, nonetheless)?

The two real questions here are, did Zimmerman purposely exploit the law? And will he be able to receive a fair trial because of the taint all the noise has directed toward the case?

I know, some people don’t think he deserves a fair trial. Vigilante justice has a rich history in the United States, and it mostly worked to the detriment of Black people (and Native Americans). We most certainly can’t become part of the “hang ’em” politic, as we ended up on the wrong end of the noose more times than the nation ever cares to remember.

Without justice or justification. Just because. “Just because” justice never works because it undermines the justice system. George Zimmerman will not be convicted “just because.” The prosecution will have to prove he broke the law. That’s where things are going to get real fuzzy, because the law loves justice and justice loves the law.

The system is set up to “uphold the law.” A system that has never been perfect, but now works much of the time (the past 60 years), given the many external variables that tend to influence it. But let’s face it, it is a stacked deck, and we know it.

Black people always have to worry about the system failing us, whether it’s in the 19th century, the 20th century or the 21st century. That is largely because the system is set up to fail us. The biases are built in the system, otherwise Blacks wouldn’t be disproportionately convicted, or whites disproportionately exonerated in race cases, and make no mistake, the Trayvon Martin is a race case.

That’s why Black people celebrate so hard when they finally win one, which isn’t often. They are the literal exceptions of that infamous moniker, “beating the system.”

In the Trayvon Martin case, George Zimmerman is poised to beat the system. Why do I say this? Because everybody and everything will be on trial, except George Zimmerman.

The stand your ground law is going to be put on trial, and the whole nation is watching because if it wins, it will be the law in all 50 states. Trayvon Martin, may God rest his soul, will be on trial, as the stereotype of the “angry Black man,” that maniacal, violence-craved, unpredictable beast of a human being, will be resurrected from the grave for the ga-zillionth time.

Though Trayvon Martin was just a boy, he will be cast as a beast in the making. His Skittles will be the weapon of choice and his hoodie will be his indictment. “The system” will have to work overtime to convict George Zimmerman. Here’s why:

First, race. Everything in America is about race. The nation sees race in everything. Those who thought we were in a “post-racial” period in America (even Black people were saying that nonsense), only have to look at five years of the Obama presidency to see that’s just not the case.

They will try to make this a black and white issue, though Zimmerman is Hispanic. He will play white in this trial. The jury will see more images of Trayvon Martin, in a hoodie, out of a hoodie, in a dehumanizing nature that we won’t recognize who they’re talking about. Trayvon Martin will be put on trial — from the grave.

Second, the law. The judge and the jury have the utmost respect for the law. If Zimmerman’s attorney can make a case that Zimmerman was only following the law, it’s a wrap. Never mind that Zimmerman fits the profile of your typical “toy cop” profile of some overzealous cop “wannabe,” on the prowl trying to impose their authority on somebody, “looking for some action,” code words for looking for a chance to shoot their gun.

Whether he confronted Martin or not, once he “feared for his life,” according to the law, he was allowed to “stand his ground.” Martin is not alive to testify, so his word and the cops word are the only things that will stand. Trouble for the prosecution.

Third, the intersection of guns and fear. Don’t underestimate this with a largely white, or all, white jury. We don’t know the composition yet since jury selection is still taking place — but we can estimate what we think it will be. Then just ask yourself (or this jury) one question: What would I do if confronted by a Black male in a hoodie, knowing what society has said about black males. Combine that with the random shooting and the very highly polarized “gun debate,” where we found out that anybody, or anything, that goes up against guns will lose … including Congress. So, his right to carry and his right to use his gun come into play.

Fourth, the jury. Finding and convincing a jury in Florida to go against the law and to go against their racial sensibilities, is a reach, plain and simple. You might find one, but it will be a needle in a haystack.

Fifth, media distortion. The media has distorted this case so badly that finding a jury that hasn’t been tainted is a problem. Moreover, the prosecution still has to worry about the case being misreported, as many high profile cases are.

Where is Court TV when you need it? That’s what got Ray Lewis and O.J. off. Everybody tends to “act right” when the camera is in the courtroom. But in this instance, Court TV would put a human face on Zimmerman. Trouble.

In conclusion, the variables to a fair trial are many, but the conclusions as to how the case will be tried are few. The law is on trial, and Black men will be on trial (again). Zimmerman is the byproduct of the latest episode of “America on Trial.” Starring race, guns and fear.

Hopefully, justice for Trayvon will be fulfilled and the system will work in his favor.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: banglist; blacks; florida; selfdefense; traydmark; trayvon; zimmerman
My brain hurts.
1 posted on 06/13/2013 6:47:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When we write things, we are free to write what we feel.

Anyone who insists upon the use of logic, facts or evidence is racist.

2 posted on 06/13/2013 6:49:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Affirmative action is racial profiling.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe justice has already been delivered to Trayvon...


3 posted on 06/13/2013 6:49:43 PM PDT by MWestMom (Psalms 109:8)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The writer is an idiot. And “confliction” isn’t a word.


4 posted on 06/13/2013 6:49:44 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Anthony Asadullah Samad

Now it all makes sense.

5 posted on 06/13/2013 6:50:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Affirmative action is racial profiling.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Or will the gun culture rationalize social fear as an acceptable defense?

So getting your head smashed into the concrete repeated times is a "social fear"?
6 posted on 06/13/2013 6:51:34 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Send him a kind word or two:

http://anthonysamad.com/?page_id=185


7 posted on 06/13/2013 6:52:42 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the little bastard hadn’t been acting like a thug, he wouldn’t have been splattered all over the street.


8 posted on 06/13/2013 6:55:05 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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"...the prosecution still has to worry about the case being mis-reported?

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9 posted on 06/13/2013 7:02:00 PM PDT by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a joke right?


10 posted on 06/13/2013 7:04:20 PM PDT by Cecilia Trent
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Got Cynicism Much?


11 posted on 06/13/2013 7:04:24 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What is really on trial in the Trayvon Martin murder case

The right of every AA to do anything they damned well please with absolutely NO fear of retribution.

12 posted on 06/13/2013 7:05:04 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This idiot has a Ph.D.? And he’s so ignorant that he doesn’t even know that it’s NOT a stand-your-ground defense? Sheesh.

O’Mara chose to forego a pre-trial stand-your-ground dismissal hearing, and instead is basing Zimmerman’s defense on what the case actually is: One of traditional justified self-defense use of deadly force.

O’Mara is very sharp. He knew that a stand-your-ground hearing would have been very risky, especially since there was no guarantee of dismissal, and that they’d essentially have to give away their defense at that point.

Zimmerman should never even have been charged.


13 posted on 06/13/2013 7:06:54 PM PDT by IChing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
[Will Trayvon’s death be vindicated? Or will the gun culture rationalize social fear as an acceptable defense?]

Let this writer stroll in a Washington Park neighborhood in Chicago at night. It won't be “social fear” that sends a chill down his spine when he realizes he's the only one the street who's not armed with a pistol, a knife or a box cutter.

14 posted on 06/13/2013 7:07:39 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Why is it, that when I read this sort of bilge, I daydream of societal breakdown, and how the author of said bilge, in the midst of the breakdown, cold, hungry and scared, realizes...too late, that they have been authors of their own .....sad...existence.


15 posted on 06/13/2013 7:13:33 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Let this writer stroll in a Washington Park neighborhood in Chicago at night. It won’t be “social fear” that sends a chill down his spine when he realizes he’s the only one the street who’s not armed with a pistol, a knife or a box cutter.


And they intend to use those weapons to rob , assault or kill him.


16 posted on 06/13/2013 7:17:28 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just love these satire articles.


17 posted on 06/13/2013 7:20:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My brain hurts

Must be all the conflictions.

18 posted on 06/13/2013 7:20:53 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t read pap. Synthetic reasoning ...


19 posted on 06/13/2013 7:22:36 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zimmerman’s defense team will be arguing he acted in self-defense, so stand your ground isn’t applicable. I stopped reading after the author displayed his ignorance.


20 posted on 06/13/2013 7:26:41 PM PDT by HawkHogan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Or will the gun culture rationalize social fear as an acceptable defense?"

Hey; if you're a white guy, try walking through Deetroit at midnite without a weapon....we'll see who's got "social fear".....

21 posted on 06/13/2013 7:29:42 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This dude thinks too much, and is sadly not capable of it.


22 posted on 06/13/2013 7:41:58 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Brad from Tennessee

When a thug jumps you, pounds your head against a concrete sidewalk while saying he’s going to kill you, then tries to grab your gun to shoot you..it’s not “social fear” to think your life is endangered.


23 posted on 06/13/2013 7:46:28 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Finding and convincing a jury in Florida to go against the law...

That's the prosecution's only hope.

24 posted on 06/13/2013 7:48:49 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee this is kind of slanted isn’t it?

Typical liberal BS artist Journalist.

I call him journalist not because he is one, but because in these times all journalists are lying SOB’s.


25 posted on 06/13/2013 7:54:08 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“That is largely because the system is set up to fail us. The biases are built in the system, otherwise Blacks wouldn’t be disproportionately convicted...”

Ummm...half of all murder victims are black, and here is a hint: it isn’t whitey entering the hood and shooting blacks! Roughly 3% of the US population (black males 16-40) kill half of the people murdered in the US - and it is their fellow blacks.

Explain THAT one, Samad!


26 posted on 06/13/2013 7:54:38 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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Trayvon wasn’t murdered. He was prevented from murdering
Zimmerman by the use of a legally carried firearm. All the race bating in the world can’t change that fact.

“Justice for Trayvon” should consist of him staying covered in dirt and Zimmmerman walking out of court an exonerated man.


27 posted on 06/13/2013 7:58:04 PM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was looking for the John Semans tagline


28 posted on 06/13/2013 8:10:31 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here it is, ladies and gentlemen - the liberal mind on parade. Nothing factual, just inferences upon inferences, and emotionally charged thinking masquerading as reasoning.

“Stand your ground” applies when you have the means to escape, but instead, um, stand your ground. George Zimmerman wasn’t standing his ground. He apparently could not escape, because he was pinned to the ground getting his head slammed into the concrete.

The disgusting sack of mostly water that wrote this piece should be relieved of his writing implement and banished to the Horsehead Nebula forthwith.

He is a disgusting, lying liberal.


29 posted on 06/13/2013 8:20:45 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Tzimisce

If Zimmerman had not been armed he would have been beaten to death and the “black guy in a hoodie” would have gotten away with it.


30 posted on 06/13/2013 8:38:22 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Will Trayvon’s death be vindicated? Or will the gun culture rationalize social fear as an acceptable defense?

Will Trayvon be exposed as a thug who was casing a neighborhood looking for an open bathroom window so he could steal the Robitussin he needed as the final ingredient for his batch of "lean", having already braved the rain to procure the other ingredients, Skittles and Arizona Watermelon Tea?

31 posted on 06/13/2013 8:43:24 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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No doubt Trayvon was just offering to share his Skittles with Zimmerman. Yeah, that’s the ticket!


32 posted on 06/13/2013 8:43:40 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What a pile of cr#p.

That is not reporting. That is racial propaganda.

33 posted on 06/13/2013 9:52:42 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not a peep about what is really on Trial. An American citizen was charged by manufactured evidence while real evidence of innocence was ignored purposefully by a judge and prosecutor for the purposes of creating a manufactured propaganda play. It is a show trial worse than Gary Francis Powers. In America. What the heck?


34 posted on 06/13/2013 9:53:32 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is there enough evidence to show that Zimmerman acted in self-defense or not? That’s the only real issue. Vigilante justice has nothing to do with it.


35 posted on 06/13/2013 10:14:55 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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2ndDivisionVet ~: ( from the article) “ In the Trayvon Martin case, George Zimmerman is poised to beat the system. Why do I say this? Because everybody and everything will be on trial, except George Zimmerman.
The stand your ground law is going to be put on trial, and the whole nation is watching “

What is right :” ..Because everybody and everything will be on trial, except George Zimmerman.”
What is WRONG : “.. The stand your ground law is going to be put on trial “

Zimmerman’s defense lawyers purposely did NOT pursue “stand your ground” law . They opted out !
What is being defended is the ability to defend yourself against intent to be killed .
The defense team has chosen self-defense


36 posted on 06/13/2013 10:53:04 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zimmerman defended himself....this trial is just a Black Ku Klux Klan lynching

If Trayvon Martin was white....Zimmerman would never have been charged


37 posted on 06/14/2013 4:34:02 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This isn’t even worth wasting the time with.


38 posted on 06/14/2013 4:45:20 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The man plays on a lot of personal suppositions but misses the truth.

Our Justice system was set up with the premise that it is better to let a guilty man go than to unjustly convict an innocent man. IOW, Zimmerman should not be in any danger of being convicted with the circumstances as they are. He is being railroaded by folks such as the "author" of this hit piece putting their emotional spins on it.

I was "perturbed" when OJ got off, but I'd much rather have a 1,000 of him running free than to have one George Zimmerman convicted.

39 posted on 06/14/2013 5:38:49 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

never seen “social fear” bloody the back of anyone’s skull.


40 posted on 06/14/2013 6:20:17 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dr. Abdullah with another Muslim...


41 posted on 06/14/2013 6:38:07 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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The issue is simple.There's a dead guy and a guy who admits to having caused that death.But did that guy have good reason to cause the death or did he not? He claims self defense,which is recognized by all logical,intelligent,civilized people as being a legitimate reason to take violent action against another...even lethal action if necessary.The photographs of the defendant taken by the police after the incident *alone* suggest...*strongly* suggest...that the defendant's claim of self defense is legitimate.And when we explore the past of the dead guy in question it shows an angry,contemptful,swaggering,crude,semi-literate punk who would be completely capable of using violence with provocation.

OJ was guilty (in *both* cases),Michael Jackson was guilty,Robert Blake was guilty,Phil Spector was guilty,William Kennedy Smith was guilty,Michael Skakel was guilty and this punk very probably got what he deserved.

Next question!

42 posted on 06/14/2013 6:46:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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Oooppps....*without* provocation
43 posted on 06/14/2013 6:48:52 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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