Skip to comments.Hydrobetatron.org Launches — Open Source LENR Project
Posted on 06/19/2013 9:14:01 PM PDT by Kevmo
Hydrobetatron.org Launches Open Source LENR Project
June 18, 2013 By admin
I received the following press release today from Ugo Abundo and Luciano Saporito regarding the launch of a new web site for open source LENR project. Ugo Abundo was the driving force behind the Pirelli High School (Rome, Italy) Athanor cold fusion device, and this work seems to have grown into this Hydrobetatron project. The following is Google translated (with some editing) from the original Italian.
Online now is the website: hydrobetatron.org Open Source Energy Project
Hydrobetatron.org is a website created by the will of Hugh Abundo and Luciano Saporito, just as support for this project, for willingness to work in Under the new LENR science, commonly known by the name (even if improper) of cold fusion, with an Open Source philosophy. You can follow step by step all the work of development of the hydrobetatron, which will be held in the future, seeking to create a device, (the reactor), efficient and ingegnerizzabile by anyone with the necessary technical skills; in fact, all of the data, research, and construction plans will be in the public domain.
Purpose of the reactor and the production of economical energy, inexhaustible and clean, which we believe is vital to the well-being (and freedom) of man for the salvation of the planet Earth. We invite you to help the project hydrobetatron.org! With the economical energy, inexhaustible and clean, you will help yourself and also our planet!
These days we are building, with a group of founding member LENR researchers, the Association not for profit OPEN Power, it may enroll private supporters of the idea of sharing, researchers and other associations, public and private.
The purposes of the statute and the budget of the Association will be consulted on this website; the ultimate goal is to offer all such desirable success of research reached, a free alternative and free (for the exploitation of new energy) to the traditional route search-patent-industrial exploitation by competitors.
Cordially: Ugo Abundo and Luciano Saporito
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Rossi, if he really did develop this tech, has some of the worst business and legal advisors on the planet. Why? Because good ones would have (1) gotten this tech disseminated to the universe, all details of it, and (2) made him a gazillionaire in the process who could buy and sell Bill Gates with pocket change.
It just isn’t that hard.
Hey Rossi, if you lurk, PM me. Not kidding. You’re about to fail yet again. Epically.
Oh and a follow up: I’m not kidding. That said, Rossi either is a complete fraud or he really does have the worst business and legal advisors on the planet. At this point, I predict #1. But that says nothing about LENR in general.
This article isn’t about Rossi.
Bill Gates had his IP stolen by hobbyists.
The forces aligned against this technology make those hobbyists look like girl scouts.
Correct, it isn’t directly about Rossi. But it is about the tech Rossi alleges to have developed.
But it is about the tech Rossi alleges to have developed.
***Is that so? How do you figure? LENR was around before Rossi showed up.
This is great, let the crowd sourcing research go on!!
We shall soon find out if this is a fraud or not.
True that. But he alleges to have developed the first commercially viable large scale implementation. Tired of this convo. If you don’t understand the impact Rossi has had on this tech and its credibility in many circles, mostly bad but some good in terms of exposure, there is no point to it.
***Then your entire point is rendered moot by your own admission.
But he alleges to have developed the first commercially viable large scale implementation.
***Then take it up on a Rossi thread.
Tired of this convo.
***Again. This thread is not about Rossi.
If you dont understand the impact Rossi has had on this tech and its credibility in many circles, mostly bad but some good in terms of exposure, there is no point to it.
***Then, again: your own point is rendered moot. Before Rossi, 90% of the LENR research was in Palladium/Deuterium, now most of it is in Nickel/Hydrogen. It would appear that you don’t understand that impact.
Four words............... “Rube Goldberg”.. “Perpetual Motion”..
There just may MORE than one sucker born every minute..
There really is no FREE LUNCH.. unless you find a sucker..
Then, again: your own point is rendered moot. Before Rossi, 90% of the LENR research was in Palladium/Deuterium, now most of it is in Nickel/Hydrogen. It would appear that you dont understand that impact.
Seriously, an article about open source research re: LENR involving Nickel/Hydrogen has nothing to do with Rossi when, as you stated, "Before Rossi, 90% of the LENR research was in Palladium/Deuterium, now most of it is in Nickel/Hydrogen"?! Believe it or not, we're on the same side. For some reason, though, you got upset when I brought up Rossi's (good? bad? dunno) influence on this research. I think you must have misinterpreted something I said.
A lofty goal!
Actually not. This technique, although LENR related, has pretty much nothing in common with Rossi's devices.
Do you think it just might be because he sees through your blatant effort to highjack the thread into being "all about Rossi" instead of the technique posted??
Technically, Rube Goldberg machines DO (or at least CAN) work, so they don’t apply here...
None of which apply to LENR. Well, maybe the Rube Goldberg, in the sense that any lab research rig eventually ends up looking like an RG setup.
"There just may MORE than one sucker born every minute..here really is no FREE LUNCH.. unless you find a sucker.."
Again, doesn't apply to LENR. "Maybe" applies to Rossi, but certainly not to the other researchers in the field of LENR. THE single proven instance of fraud in LENR research (fraud by Rossi is suspected, not proved) was perpetrated by an unknown party in the MIT physics department who CHANGED THE REPORTED DATA of their "CF Debunking experiment" to show no excess heat, when in fact the full data set "does" show excess heat.
Please,then, by all means explain how this effect has been replicated 14,700 times.
If you keep turning yourself around in rhetorical circles like that, you’ll go blind.
Then your contention is that LENR does not work... so please explain the 14,700 times it has been replicated. So far, not once on these threads, have you contributed to the scientific discussion. It’s been nothing but sneering.
Technically, Rube Goldberg machines DO (or at least CAN) work, so they dont apply here...
I really have nothing against Rube Goldberg’s..
They mostly make noise, twirl around and are sometimes shiney..
I like all those things...
LENR seems to be like a teenager..
You put fuel in one end and you get flawed logic out the other end.. and defecation..
Anti-science pathological skeptics seem to be like a teenager..
You put fuel in one end and you get flawed logic out the other end.. and defecation.
For instance, they deliver crickets when the 14,700 replications are brought up. Or, they nitpick about the chinglish in the report, or act as if scientists from the CAS don’t know how to count.
lol - just so!!
All you ever do on these LENR threads is sneer. Not one scientific contribution. And yet, you seem to think it’s so LOL funny.
Crickets, as expected. And downthread, yet another sneer.
A pro-science FReeper would answer the contention.
For instance, they deliver crickets when the 14,700 replications are brought up. Or, they nitpick about the chinglish in the report, or act as if scientists from the CAS dont know how to count.
You protest too much.................
And yet, you don’t address any of the scientific points.
But thanks for the Shakespearean quote.
Methink’st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.
All’s Well That Ends Well, 2. 3
Seems.... It is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing.
That quote was about life. I take it you’re talking about your own life by misusing the quote.
Rogue, thou hast liv’d too long.
Anthony and Cleopatra, 2. 5
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