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And he gets his gun back (Actually, no he doesn't)
The New York Amsterdam News ^ | July 18, 2013 | Elinor Tatum, publisher & editor-in-chief

Posted on 07/18/2013 9:59:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

How is it that in this day and age, a man can kill an unarmed teenager in cold blood, get acquitted and then get his gun back a few days later? How is it that a man who cannot pass the tests necessary to become a police officer—possibly due to failing the psychological portion of the testing—can get a gun permit? How is it possible that George Zimmerman can walk this earth today legally armed, while Trayvon Martin is buried six feet under due to a bullet that came out of Zimmerman’s gun? Only in America.

The Kel Tec PF-9 pistol Zimmerman used to kill Martin will be kept by his side, and according to his attorney Mark O’Mara, Zimmerman needs the weapon now because “there are a lot of people out there who actually hate him.” And why do they hate this man, who is probably still wearing his bulletproof vest? They hate him because he went out on the street when he was told not to and killed a young man out of fear and maybe hate.

He killed a young man because he could be sure that the so-called justice system would let him “stand his ground” and tell him it is all right to kill if you feel that your li fe may be in danger, even if you sought out that “danger” yourself.

Furthermore, something must be done about jury selection in Seminole County, where more than 10 percent of the population is African-American yet no African-Americans were among the jurors.

With laws like “Stand Your Ground,” with people like George Zimmerman and with organizations like the NRA, it is still open season on Black Americans. We talk about the violence in our communities; we talk about the illegal guns that are on the streets. We try to figure out ways in which we can stem the violence, and it is hard work.

We know that we are not the ones who are flooding our communities with guns. We know we are not the ones who are the drug kingpins. We know we have to stop this madness, and the laws that have been enacted are not protecting us. The guns are still flowing and our children are still dying.

But what about the legal guns, the ones used in Newtown, the ones used in Colorado and the one used to kill Trayvon Martin? In these cases, the guns were legal. In the Trayvon Martin murder, the gun was Zimmerman’s. We need to change the laws; we need to change the attitudes.

There is no reason on God’s green earth why what happened to Martin should be allowed, and furthermore, there is no reason why the man who killed him should be allowed to pick up his Kel Tec PF-9 pistol, carry it legally and maybe kill again. No reason, no justice and no peace for Trayvon Martin, his family or our communities.



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He was not accepted for that police department due to credit issues, IIRC.
1 posted on 07/18/2013 9:59:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Another ill-informed racist


2 posted on 07/18/2013 10:04:49 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She has a bad case of stupid.


3 posted on 07/18/2013 10:07:44 PM PDT by Gaffer
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Furthermore, something must be done about jury selection in Seminole County, where more than 10 percent of the population is African-American yet no African-Americans were among the (six) jurors.

Furthermore, something must be done about people who escape from college without ever encountering a class called "Probability and Statistics" or something similar...

4 posted on 07/18/2013 10:08:41 PM PDT by LouD
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he didn’t fail any tests. he failed because of a financial issue - too much college debt.


5 posted on 07/18/2013 10:13:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the woman is racist.


6 posted on 07/18/2013 10:14:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
something must be done about jury selection in Seminole County, where more than 10 percent of the population is African-American yet no African-Americans were among the jurors.

10 percent of 6 jurors + 2 alternates = 0.8

What surgical implement would Ms. Tatum use to achieve 0.8 black jurors?

7 posted on 07/18/2013 10:15:47 PM PDT by NautiNurse (That is retarted, Sir.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Cold blood”? Really? Like the blood coming out of GZ head by beating it against concrete?

These people are IDIOTS.

Local PD should arrange a demonstration for the idiots: lay on the ground and an officer will sit on your chest, punch you in the face, and hit your head against concrete a few times. Hard. So you get that white flash. Then ask the idiot what they would do to defend themselves.


8 posted on 07/18/2013 10:16:27 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yo, Elinor, how in this day and age does a punk not get charged with theft when the evidence is found in his backpack and how in this day and age does the found jewelry sit a shelf at the PD collecting dust instead of being returned to the owner? How in this day and age does a so called journalist get by with so many blatant lies and biased writing?


9 posted on 07/18/2013 10:17:06 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: NautiNurse
A black juror almost made it to the final jury, but the PROSECUTION nixed him for watching Fox News. I **** you not.
10 posted on 07/18/2013 10:17:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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Furthermore, something must be done about jury selection in Seminole County, where more than 10 percent of the population is African-American yet no African-Americans were among the (six) jurors.

It was the prosecution that excused the potential black juror. Also, St. Skittles wasn't the one on trial. If you want to complain about the racial make up of the jury, you should be complaining that there was only one Hispanic. But, I guess it is hard to find "White Hispanics".

11 posted on 07/18/2013 10:19:07 PM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ditz.


12 posted on 07/18/2013 10:20:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Keep your powder dry.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well Elinor Tantrum - what about the thousands of blacks killed by blacks since Tragones death?


13 posted on 07/18/2013 10:21:58 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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How is it that in this day and age, a man can kill an unarmed teenager in cold blood, get acquitted and then get his gun back a few days later?

Ohhhh, like maybe he's not guilty!!!!??? And that counts for something in this country. It sure beats being tried in the court of public opinion.

Or maybe we should go back to that kind of society, and then we'll organize some groups to convict Elinor Tatum of... oh, anything. We'll just make something up. It doesn't matter as long as we get a conviction and slate our thirst for vengeance, right Elinor?

/s

14 posted on 07/18/2013 10:22:39 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: darkwing104

Wow.

Does she conjecture, much?


15 posted on 07/18/2013 10:22:51 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...the same way this woman passes for a journalist. She gets all her facts wrong and then still acts like the smartest person in the room....


16 posted on 07/18/2013 10:23:43 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“allowed to pick up his Kel Tec and carry it”

She’s got a point. I doubt George will let another zombie get that close again, but the Kel Tec muzzle pressed against T-bone and the slide caused the pistol to go out of battery preventing a double tap. He might consider a revolver.
Is this the Elinor that picked up the rice at the church where the wedding had been? Is she upset because it wasn’t her wedding? Is she always a bridesmaid?
Anyway, she’s right. I can see George with a nice shrouded Taurus .357. She must be one a them wise latina’s. Or sumpin.


17 posted on 07/18/2013 10:26:23 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sick and tired of this “unarmed teenager” meme.

When George Zimmerman was having his head bashed into the concrete after having his nose broken.....when all this was happening in real time.....how the hell was George Zimmerman supposed to know that St. Trayvon of Skittles was unarmed?


18 posted on 07/18/2013 10:28:54 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a chain of convenience stores.)
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I’m sorry, do you happen to have her rant about the shooting in Chicago last weekend? Which one? Oh, I don’t know, how about any of them?

None?

Oh, right. Everyone else is a racist, now shut up and take your beating next time, you deserve it ‘whitey.’


19 posted on 07/18/2013 10:36:03 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: darkwing104

hey Ms Tater

Would having a black on the jury have changed one single fact in this case?


20 posted on 07/18/2013 10:52:26 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To these people two wrongs make a right. They want a white man lynched for every black man lynched since 1604.


21 posted on 07/18/2013 10:52:55 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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22 posted on 07/18/2013 10:54:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: VerySadAmerican

No, I think they would actually be happier with 100 whites lynched for every black who was ever dissed by a non-black of any kind since we lived in caves.


23 posted on 07/18/2013 10:55:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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How is it that in this day and age, a man can kill an unarmed teenager in cold blood, get acquitted and then get his gun back a few days later?

Uh, the jury said he didn't break the law. Are you so elite that your impression of his motivations is more accurate than the people the Constitution charges with making that determination? Did you argue with the OJ jurors, or was that "different"?

24 posted on 07/18/2013 10:56:01 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Gaffer
She has a bad case of stupid.

Unfortunately it is epidemic, and this case brings it out in the worst way.

25 posted on 07/18/2013 11:00:00 PM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

George needs a Glock IMHO. Maybe a decent AR15 too.


26 posted on 07/18/2013 11:04:27 PM PDT by RC one
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To: Secret Agent Man

Racism .... Marketable only to socialist progressive and communist democrat presstitutes , pundits and pandering polidiot punks.....

Preposterous political violence promoting porn.

Piss on em !


27 posted on 07/19/2013 12:01:17 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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This sums up most of the lies one can invent about this incident. I tried the site, but it's now too late to leave comments directly to Elinor's article. However, there are more incendiary articles just like it following, in the "Opinion" section.

Please take note with me that this whole segment of the population is utterly incapable of response to logic or reasonable investigation.

From here on out, you'd better find out who your buddies really are. Zimmerman is not the only citizen that these people are preparing to eradicate if they can.

Was Abraham Lincoln wrong?

28 posted on 07/19/2013 12:11:27 AM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This woman is a murderer at heart, inciting others to follow her.


29 posted on 07/19/2013 12:13:57 AM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: smoothsailing

30 posted on 07/19/2013 12:37:39 AM PDT by goron (If this be treason, make the most of it! - Patrick Henry)
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To: smoothsailing

Maybe not.

But you can shut it up for a while.


31 posted on 07/19/2013 4:03:55 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a blithering bunch of crap.


32 posted on 07/19/2013 4:21:24 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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A black juror almost made it to the final jury, but the PROSECUTION nixed him for watching Fox News. I **** you not.

1950 - "Are you now, or have you ever, been a member of the Communist Party?"

2013 - "Are you now, or have you ever, watched Fox News?"

33 posted on 07/19/2013 4:33:31 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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34 posted on 07/19/2013 4:37:12 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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Simple solution to this sort of mind set - accuse her and those like her of tax fraud, lock their accounts, let them be acquitted, and refuse to unlock their accounts...


35 posted on 07/19/2013 4:50:21 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Repeat Offender; GenXteacher; Nervous Tick; BlatherNaut; ColdOne; Marcella; ...
How could so many people be so wrong all at the same time when the truth is freely had by all? Rhetorical question. I know.

This is a Black Rage Ping List, (by request,) to cover the aftermath of the GZ trial and archive the incidents. Let me know. And please add "blackrage" to the keywords. Click the link for anything you might have missed. Thank you.


36 posted on 07/19/2013 4:50:52 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: NautiNurse
What surgical implement would Ms. Tatum use to achieve 0.8 black jurors?

A black juror was dismissed by the prosecution during selection because the watched Fox News Channel. Not that this was a political persecution or anything...

37 posted on 07/19/2013 4:54:30 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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How is it that in this day and age, a man can kill an unarmed teenager in cold blood, get acquitted and then get his gun back a few days later? How is it that...

The fist 100 words convinced me of a few things.

  1. I didn't want or need to read further
  2. the writer is an idiot
  3. The writer is a racist idiot
  4. New Yorkers are idiots - at least those who actually want to read this worthless drivel
  5. New York shouldn't really be part of the USA.
  6. the race baiting industry is alive and well, but this ugly skank has a long way to go befo she reach dee revin Al's level of rabble rousing
  7. I'm heartily sick of purile ignoranuses mouthing off about this and making up their own "facts" to mouth off about
  8. I don't want to win their hearts and minds
  9. the world is better off without Saint Skittles and would be better still without the shrill lies of idiots like this one (and the idiots too)
  10. I could go on, but I don't want to be as tiresome as the endless stream of morons with reverse digestive systems

38 posted on 07/19/2013 5:15:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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Too bad half of the so called conservatives talk show hosts I’ve been listening to can’t seem to be willing to connect the dots to what a heavy hand his imperious highness played in this example of socialist justice meted out to serve the policies of the state . Turning this into a show trial replete with wall to wall tv coverage.

Then have publications like the The New Amsterdam whatits follow like martinets, or is duped by the handouts of lies they’re getting from this government.

.For certain since the not guilty verdict has been rendered the facts of this case are still being concealed by the media such as not using pictures of both side by side because they look like cousins.

Many Neigborhood Watch areas consist of modest dwellings including the one Zimmerman was a “watch captain” in.His was a mini US melting pot which includes a number of black families which banded together and set up patrols to protect their area. In this case they were struggling with single and groups of young blacks from other “hoods” on the prowl., In some instances armed, preying on homeowners in his area.

Usually such neighborhood watch areas are posted with a window or garden sign announcing that fact and those patrols will observe any one; black,white, green, or blue and sometimes even stop and question them. ..That fact and the area wasn’t even examinined by any of the so called media because it wouldn’t fit their agenda if true journalisim existed, because it couldn’t support any racial assertion..

It might even explain Zimmerman’s action taken during his surveilance of Martin because this watch volunteer got out of his car and continued his observation on foot because he lost sight of Martin. In many watch areas that’s done frequently when the subject disappears from view they may leave their vehicle and continue surveilance on foot.. ....

According to the testimony there was an exchange after which Zimmerman was going back to his vehicle when Martin attacked him and was severly beating him to the extent he feared for his life. To put it bluntly saint Trayvon was a smart ass punk who messed with a guy with a gun and got killed .

Even after learning the shooter was a staunch Obama supporter, not Jewish, and a very dark skinned “hispanic” Obama did nothing to curtail the hyperbole or tone down his edict creating this as a racist episode. Obama the boss of bosses and gets all the information about anybody ignored Zimmerman’s defence of a homeless black maltreated by a local police officer which resulted in the disciplining of the offending officer at Zimmermans insistance .

The socialists controlling the media propaganda machine oblidged.. They began claiming the exclusive “gated” neighborhood watch captain was a “white hispanic” . used a picture of a 12 year old Martin instead of the 6 foot 165 pound person he was vs the smaller 140 pound lttle fatty neighborhood watch captain. Worse yet allowed his US Attorney General to use questionable activities to promote a show trial and ignored using a threat of prosecution to black militant groups threatening the watch captain’s life.

Do not confuse todays politicians and their ahearants in the press and academia as followers of “Liberalism”. . These are die hard God denying I’m right you’re wrong socialists incapable of independent thinking running todays media.. Devising political campaigns of lies and manipulated inflamatory languange disguised as “news or reliable information” designed to destroy any opponent or group to what is edict-ed by their leader. You must wind up goose-stepping in unison protecting the collective otherwise we will through the use of government step on you and squash you like some insect.. Until the quashers are quashed this will continue..


39 posted on 07/19/2013 5:41:26 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: NautiNurse
10 percent of 6 jurors + 2 alternates = 0.8

What surgical implement would Ms. Tatum use to achieve 0.8 black jurors?

I daresay she is arguing for an updated version of the three-fifths of a person concept for her own people. Outrageous!

40 posted on 07/19/2013 5:49:07 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How is it that an editor of a publication,
being so obviously (to anyone familiar with the case) deceptive and libelous,
can continue to have a job?


41 posted on 07/19/2013 5:50:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Gaffer

She has a bad case of skin color over truth.


42 posted on 07/19/2013 5:51:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RC one

I’m bettin’ Traytray would have gone on home if GZ had an AR slung across his back.


43 posted on 07/19/2013 5:53:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
When George Zimmerman was having his head bashed into the concrete after having his nose broken.....when all this was happening in real time.....how the hell was George Zimmerman supposed to know that St. Trayvon of Skittles was unarmed?

I just love the way the media conveniently ignore that roughly 1 murder in 20 is committed with hands or feet.

I seriously doubt they would be squeamish about shooting someone when they were having at least a little trouble breathing and some 6 ft. guy was straddling them, playing midnight basketball with their head on the sidewalk.

44 posted on 07/19/2013 5:59:58 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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...a man can kill an unarmed teenager assailant in cold blood fear for his life, get acquitted and then get his gun back a few days later...
45 posted on 07/19/2013 7:48:40 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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...he went out on the street when he was told not to and killed a young man out of fear and maybe hate.

Three lies in one sentence.

46 posted on 07/19/2013 7:49:49 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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Somebody forgot to tell Elinor that Zimmerman was found not guilty. I don’t think thats computing in her pea brain.

I doubt if she can take the news that a gunshop down in Volusia county is going to give GZ a brand new Kel Tec gratis. :-)


47 posted on 07/19/2013 8:02:47 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MrB

IIRC, her family owns the publication. It was handed to her on a silver platter. As the late Democrat Texas Gov. Ann Richards used to say about Dubya: “He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.”


48 posted on 07/19/2013 9:30:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I see the problem...

She's a racist.

49 posted on 07/19/2013 10:26:09 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people just tell a fictional fairy tale, but use the real names of George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin to make it sound like a true story.


50 posted on 07/19/2013 12:55:29 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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