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Take his guns away, already: Why the George Zimmermans are so protected
Salon ^ | September 12, 2013 | Katie McDonough, assistant editor

Posted on 09/12/2013 2:15:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

What exactly does it take for a man with domestic abuse complaints and a fatal shooting to lose access to weapons?

Exactly what happened on Monday between George Zimmerman and his estranged wife, Shellie, in Lake Mary, Fla., is still in doubt — but seeing the words “Zimmerman,” “gun” and “altercation” strung together once again has turned Zimmerman into a lightning rod for questions regarding gun violence and domestic abuse in the United States.

Based on the initial report, Shellie called the police that day claiming Zimmerman, brandishing his firearm, was threatening her, daring her to “step closer” to him. “I don’t know what he’s capable of. I’m really, really scared,” she told the emergency dispatcher. He violently destroyed her iPad, she said, allegedly cutting through the device with his pocketknife. He also apparently came to blows with her father, and allegedly exhibited the complete lack of self-control and dangerously poor judgment for which the public has come to know him.

But because Shellie changed her story only hours later — saying she never saw a firearm, and that she wouldn’t press charges — there was no domestic violence report filed. Absent that, the police didn’t pursue a warrant to search Zimmerman’s vehicle for the gun he may or may not have used to threaten Shellie.

Whether or not Zimmerman had a gun on him that day, one thing remains clear: The gun he used to kill Trayvon Martin may still be lawfully returned to him. And he is, according to recent reports, looking to buy more.

Which invites the question: What does a person have to do in this country to get a gun taken away? Or lose the right to a concealed carry permit?(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


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KEYWORDS: banglist; florida; guncontrol; secondamendment; trayvon; zimmerman
But try and take away her first amendment rights for writing claptrap and see what happens.
1 posted on 09/12/2013 2:15:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After the POSPOTUS and other race baiters Z needs complete exemption from any gun control law,any state,any where.
Libs started this mess......


2 posted on 09/12/2013 2:21:04 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is it that the liberals want to take guns away form conservatives but protect criminals?


3 posted on 09/12/2013 2:21:16 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That poor guy. If this account is true he is cracking up.

He can not handle the stress of it all. Trayvon Martin was his jump the shark moment. His Peter Principle moment so to say
4 posted on 09/12/2013 2:22:06 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, Miss Katie, according to the US Constitution, the only time that right would be taken away is if you are actually in custody after having been convicted of a crime.

I am of the opinion that if you are free, walking around, and not under any type of probation/parole, then you should have all rights restored. If one cannot abide a felon being released and owning a gun, then why was said felon released to begin with?

5 posted on 09/12/2013 2:22:07 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We don't need no steenking facts.
6 posted on 09/12/2013 2:23:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather; Uncle Chip

Of possible interest ping!

BTE, thanks you guys for your earlier pings...been busy today and haven’t had a chance to absorb them...


7 posted on 09/12/2013 2:24:37 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: sheikdetailfeather; Uncle Chip

Ooops, sorry.

BTE = BTW


8 posted on 09/12/2013 2:25:41 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m far more comfortable with Zimmerman’s 2nd Amendment rights than I am with that diddlebrains 1st Amendment rights. Morons like her are infinitely more malevolent and destructive than all the Zimmerman’s in the world.


9 posted on 09/12/2013 2:26:58 PM PDT by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, take the medias cameras away, already. Quit writing about Zimmerman. If Zimmerman farts, the media wants to be there to smell. Let this die...let it be. Enough!


10 posted on 09/12/2013 2:29:47 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well Katie, the domestic abuse charge was a LIE and the shooting was SELF DEFENSE.

So, there is NO REASON to deny his Second Ammendment Rights!

Get it?


11 posted on 09/12/2013 2:29:58 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: mountainlion
Why is it that the liberals want to take guns away form conservatives but protect criminals?

Marxists are deathly afraid we patriots might rise up in righteous wrath and overthrow their oligarchy; they'd also like to disarm any- and everyone but the military and police, but don't quite dare say so. I see three strange, terrible ironies in all this:

1.) We patriots are actually law-abiding to a fault.
2.) As always, so-called "gun control" laws are written in acute, chronic, yet never mentioned terror of non-white young males with firearms.
3.) Ultimately, "gun control" schemes are an expression of leftist extremist hatred of the Second Amendment and all us commoners who believe it means exactly what it says.

Blind hatred never sees very far ahead.

12 posted on 09/12/2013 2:30:18 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What does a person have to do in this country to get a gun taken away? Or lose the right to a concealed carry permit?**************************************************************

I am speculating here but, I suspect that poor silly Katie McDonough missed that part that says “CONVICTION OF A CRIME”
Since Mr. Zimmerman has nothing more that a couple of traffic convictions on his record, he probably has at least as clean a record as poor silly Katie McDonough. DUMB DUMB DUMB

13 posted on 09/12/2013 2:32:05 PM PDT by Tupelo (There are no Republicans or Democrats in Washington. Just Millionaires protecting their turf.)
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To: JSteff
That poor guy. If this account is true he is cracking up.

It's Salon FRiend, FWIW.

Z isn't cracking up, the media is trying to salvage its self and push their agenda.

They were defeated in the courts, so now they're trying to win the propaganda war of public opinion.

14 posted on 09/12/2013 2:32:21 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

15 posted on 09/12/2013 2:32:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Standing Wolf

And when the creeps hang, it will come as a complete surprise.


16 posted on 09/12/2013 2:33:26 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well whatever Shellie's and her lawyer's plan was for the other day, it backfired.

Anyone watching the surveillance video can see where she lied to the dispatcher.

Then she told two different stories to two officers taking statements.

And if you pay close attention to her lawyer's careless wordsmithing yesterday it becomes clear that she did hit him with the IPAD as George alleges.

Why she didn't just get in the vehicle when George arrived and left instead of calling her attorney and then 911 is very curious.

17 posted on 09/12/2013 2:34:08 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The ‘wife’ recanted:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2013/0910/Wife-of-George-Zimmerman-reverses-story-says-she-didn-t-see-a-gun

How about arresting HER for lying to police?


18 posted on 09/12/2013 2:34:39 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From the title on the article: "Take his guns away, already""

I think that is what Trayvon was trying to do. He got shot for it, and that is what should happen to anyone who attempts to deprive a lawful gun owner of his gun.

19 posted on 09/12/2013 2:36:01 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


20 posted on 09/12/2013 2:37:32 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Which invites the question: What does a person have to do in this country to get a gun taken away? Or lose the right to a concealed carry permit?

Aw, that's too easy. Like taking candy from a baby. Move to California.

21 posted on 09/12/2013 2:38:46 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: mountainlion

That’s a rhetorical question, right?


22 posted on 09/12/2013 2:38:51 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: JSteff

The account that seems to fit the police statements is that she called the police and told them he was raving with a gun when he did not have one. It makes you wonder if she was trying to get him killed while she is still the beneficiary on his life insurance.


23 posted on 09/12/2013 2:39:46 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I wonder what McDonough would say if I advocated licensing journalists, and then loosing the license when someone COMPLAINS of journalistic abuse?
24 posted on 09/12/2013 2:39:47 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


25 posted on 09/12/2013 2:41:17 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: carriage_hill

That’s a rhetorical question, right?

Either that or sarcasm at liberals.


26 posted on 09/12/2013 2:42:13 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

“...sarcasm at liberals.”

I believe you on that.


27 posted on 09/12/2013 2:44:55 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The Lake Mary police may not have to do that.

The police reports and surveillance tape of the incident are now public record that even the judge who granted her probation can see.

Any one of a half dozen things she did on Monday can result in a Probation Violation and nullification of her plea deal.


28 posted on 09/12/2013 2:46:02 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: G Larry

George was found Not Guilty in the Trayvon Martin shooting, and his heifer soon-to-be ex-wife lied to police about the incident the other day.

So why should he lose his Second Amendment rights, especially in light of the fact that hundreds, if not thousands of individuals have made death threats against him?

Katie, whoever the hell she is, is clueless.


29 posted on 09/12/2013 2:46:04 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a chain of convenience stores.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Which invites the question: What does a person have to do in this country to get a gun taken away?

Answer to your question, Katie. Shoot you in cold blood.

Then a person will be disarmed, and if convicted, sent to prison, Katie...

Although, in some counties in TX, you being so stupid and delusional might get you shot Katie, and the shooter will probably go free. You know Katie, the "she needed killing" doctrine.

Sux doesn't, Katie.

5.56mm

30 posted on 09/12/2013 2:51:35 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe
Somebody stole my "it." I look for the perp later...

5.56mm

31 posted on 09/12/2013 2:53:10 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is no domestic violence, all charges were dropped.
Zimmerman acted in self defense, that’s is what the jury concluded, and he was acquitted.


32 posted on 09/12/2013 2:53:12 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Except, Missy McDonough, the soon-to-be ex wife admitted that the gun part was untrue.


33 posted on 09/12/2013 2:54:42 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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It was all over “the Money” Zimmerman got and she wanted a bigger piece of the pie. Alimony, that can get ugly.

Breaking up is hard to do ~


34 posted on 09/12/2013 2:56:09 PM PDT by imemyself
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To: Tupelo

“CONVICTION OF A CRIME”

But don’t you see, GZ has ALREADY been tried and convicted of the crime in the Court of Closed Minds. Facts be damned, the race baiters are going to make an example of GZ so nobody, nowhere, no time, will ever consider resisting being slammed repeatedly on a hard surface during the course of a beat-down.

And when did George Zimmerman get turned into Charles Bronson?


35 posted on 09/12/2013 2:57:14 PM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Thanks! It is always interesting to see how badly the liberals want to destroy him. Appreciate the ping.


36 posted on 09/12/2013 3:01:14 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What exactly does it take for a man with domestic abuse complaints and a fatal shooting to lose access to weapons?

A conviction?

37 posted on 09/12/2013 3:04:08 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How many self serving, violence mongering, constitutionally ignorant articles can a “journalist” write before their 1st amendment rights are removed? Apparently it appears to be infinite.
38 posted on 09/12/2013 3:05:11 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Hugin

Not in Mass. Have your wife tell the cops you slapped her...no more guns for you until after the trial.

I live in a nice fall foliage gulag.


39 posted on 09/12/2013 3:05:52 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: Travis McGee

*like* ^


40 posted on 09/12/2013 3:06:25 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: alloysteel

In the report she also stated that he was “selfish”.....I think she wants money...and there are probly a lot of ways shes been told to get it.


41 posted on 09/12/2013 3:06:40 PM PDT by Therapsid (Communism has killed 50-60 Million people in only 50 yrs.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Perhaps Katie will get her facts straight and title her follow up article:

What does a person have to do in this country to get her cell phone or IPAD or 911 privileges taken away?

42 posted on 09/12/2013 3:08:47 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Ingtar

Bingo! She was trying to get a divorce-by-cop by getting him killed.


43 posted on 09/12/2013 3:11:49 PM PDT by Bob
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To: norwaypinesavage

Not maybe, we should demand that all Media a re qualified in determining what is the TRUTH.
I have been saying this for along time .
After all, it is said “The pen is mightier than the sword”!


44 posted on 09/12/2013 3:16:19 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Real estate and jobs are both plentiful down here.


45 posted on 09/12/2013 3:27:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: G Larry

Well Katie, the domestic abuse charge was a LIE and the shooting was SELF DEFENSE.

So, there is NO REASON to deny his Second Ammendment Rights!

Get it?

***
There you go, you bully! Can’t you see that little Katie is upset? Don’t go clobbering her with facts. It’s so unfair!


46 posted on 09/12/2013 3:56:14 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: All

The Marxist media is a bigger threat to our safety than some guy that got in an argument with his wife.

I have a friend sitting in jail right now because his cheating wife claimed he struck her while he was out on bail for a previous false accusation by her.

They are going thru a divorce because she was messing around on him while he was working his ass off to support her and their kids.

I’ve known this guy for over 35 years and he has never struck a woman or a man.


47 posted on 09/12/2013 3:57:37 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Ask the MSM about Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian. Observe the subsequent blank stares.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the concept of ,” innocent till proven guilty,” is lost on this writer.


48 posted on 09/12/2013 7:47:48 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: jyro

Oh, I’m pretty sure she gets the concept, but she doesn’t think it applies to “white Hispanics,” gun owners, tea partiers, conservatives or anyone else she doesn’t like or agree with.


49 posted on 09/12/2013 7:55:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Karmas a bitch sometimes.


50 posted on 09/13/2013 2:23:41 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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