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George Will: Let’s face it — besides Nixon’s, this is pretty much the worst second term, ever
Hot Air ^ | November 11, 2013 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 11/11/2013 6:09:50 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike

It’s been a rough fifth year in office for President Obama, with overwrought sequestration scare tactics, Scandalpalooza, and the Syrian debacle all chipping away at his leadership street cred, among other things — but this disaster of an ObamaCare rollout is really hammering the heightened disapproval home with what’s starting to look like a majority of Americans. During past job-performance dips, O’s job approval rating has been reliably bolstered by his personal favorability ratings and Americans’ sense of trust in him — but the health care law is helping to erode those usual go-to’s, and quickly. Via the WSJ:

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KEYWORDS: bho44; maybealittleblooooow; maybealotmoregolf; miserablefailure; nixon; obamacare; presidents
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1 posted on 11/11/2013 6:09:50 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Lincoln’s second term was pretty bad.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 6:11:25 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

3 more years to go... I wish it were just one.


3 posted on 11/11/2013 6:15:03 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Mike Darancette
Lincoln’s second term was pretty bad.

I know a lot of Freepers profess a loathing of Lincoln but I think it's safe to say that the Obamanation's legacy will be viewed less in favor by history than Lincoln's.

4 posted on 11/11/2013 6:23:42 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: carriage_hill

To George Wills:...

You missed the first term? Odumbo being pres has short of destroyed this country worldwide and nobody in Congress seems to give a crap or has the gonnads to get him removed. I am surprised he finished the first term.


5 posted on 11/11/2013 6:25:12 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Worse than Nixon. Nixon had media opposition. The Clown has the media’s worship.


6 posted on 11/11/2013 6:26:47 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Hotlanta Mike

The scenes in the bowels of the WH must rival a horror movie. The ‘players’ are turning against each other for all the mistakes and overreaches. The power behind the throne (Jarrett) is standing in quicksand.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 6:29:50 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

No comparison. This is the...worst...ever! Nixon wasn’t trying to take down America. I wish these idiots would quit treating this like it’s just another presidency!


8 posted on 11/11/2013 6:30:11 AM PST by albie
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To: Hotlanta Mike

and Americans’ sense of trust in him

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America is a very naive country in many respects. Heck, we nearly elected Al Gore to the presidency. Just sayin...


9 posted on 11/11/2013 6:30:21 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Progov

Exactly...
Go suck it, Georgie...no thanks to you for your slam of the Cooch during the election, your dinner party for Obozo as well as little confabs with him in the WH....you are who you hang with....


10 posted on 11/11/2013 6:31:03 AM PST by matginzac
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To: JPG

I wouldn’t piss on her if she were on fire.


11 posted on 11/11/2013 6:31:46 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Nixon’s great sin was that he tried to protect some underlings. Compare that to Obama and see who is the worst.


12 posted on 11/11/2013 6:32:18 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Whats all of this worst second term BS. This prez is a lying crook.


13 posted on 11/11/2013 6:33:25 AM PST by jetson
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Obama's regime is the worst in history, bar none. Nixon, who at least was for America, got kicked out over the coverup of a second-rate burglary. Obama, on the other hand, is an out-and-out traitor who hates America and is doing everything in his power to destroy it. It took a while for us to recover from the Carter Administration, previously the worst in our history. The prospects of our recovery from this one remains an open question.


America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

EAGLES UP! Once more unto the breach, my friends, once more!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

14 posted on 11/11/2013 6:33:30 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Starboard
Heck, we nearly elected Al Gore to the presidency

He could have replaced PBS with Al Jazeera LOL.

15 posted on 11/11/2013 6:34:13 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: blueunicorn6
What will haunt us in the future is the Worlds losing faith in the USA....they are backing away and making new friends...allies....we are the leper in the room....that is what Obama has done...no one can trust us anymore..and can see what we are doing with the “reserve” currency...and they are making other plans...
16 posted on 11/11/2013 6:35:41 AM PST by Youngman542012
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To: Hotlanta Mike

It’s disgraceful to mention Nixon in conjunction with Obama or Clinton. And yet it’s done over and over.

When you do so, you infer they haven’t reached his level of depravity. To the contrary, Clibton and Obama are far far worse than Nixon.


17 posted on 11/11/2013 6:35:43 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Compared to Obama’s deceit, lies, fraud, traitorous actions and criminality Nixon looks like a wayward schoolboy.


18 posted on 11/11/2013 6:36:52 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: All

Who Killed Michael Hastings?

Reflexively distrustful, eager to make powerful enemies, the young journalist whose Mercedes exploded in Los Angeles one night couldn’t possibly have died accidentally, could he?

http://nymag.com/news/features/michael-hastings-2013-11/


19 posted on 11/11/2013 6:36:57 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: luvbach1

Lincoln tops the list of horrible Presidents. No one else comes close.


20 posted on 11/11/2013 6:37:26 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nascarnation

He could have replaced PBS with Al Jazeera LOL.

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Would there be any difference? :)


21 posted on 11/11/2013 6:38:54 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Hotlanta Mike

So brilliant...it only took 5 years for him to reach this shocking conclusion.


22 posted on 11/11/2013 6:39:27 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Mike Darancette

But neither Lincoln’s or Nixon’s committed even slightly close to the number of atrocities 0 has done; not even close.


23 posted on 11/11/2013 6:42:03 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Hotlanta Mike

We should start looking into how many lies the press told to shore up the vote on Obamacare.

Even better, Congress.


24 posted on 11/11/2013 6:42:41 AM PST by Kenny
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Every time I see poll numbers and it’s 49 % / 51 % dissaproval ratings I know its complete bull$hit and to add at least 25 % to the disapproval numbers. The MSM are such liars. They probably just make up the numbers.


25 posted on 11/11/2013 6:47:12 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Progov

Odumbo being pres has short of destroyed this country worldwide and nobody in Congress seems to give a crap or has the gonnads to get him removed.


Couldn’t have said it better. Totally agree. We have a bunch of blackmailed wimps and wimpetts.


26 posted on 11/11/2013 6:48:06 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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To: Progov

Ain’t that the truth?

Will, Kristol, and Krauthammer ALL sat in the those Sunday Political News/Discussion shows from even before Obama’s Immaculate Inauguration and calmly played the role of the token conservative of the [loyal, and not too vocal] opposition.

In the face of the most egregious acts of traitorism (i.e., Obama/Holder on F&F or the dozen others since then) ALL of these nesting politicos sat there and calmly discussed the events as if Obama were a legitimate, law-abiding President who wanted the best for this country. 9If we could only be more ‘bipartisan’ and willing to discuss things....)

The deference these hacks showed to Obama for nigh on 5 years is, frankly, wholly unforgivable. They sold out whatever conservative (hell, even normal patriotic stirrings) for a cush job to sit on a Sunday show and blather/appease/equivocate and then go back to their home offices and hack out some sniveling column during the rest of the week.

They are too late to the party and their little dresses have grass stains on them where they serviced their Democrat job-givers. Damn them.


27 posted on 11/11/2013 6:49:27 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: JPG
The scenes in the bowels of the WH must rival a horror movie. The ‘players’ are turning against each other for all the mistakes and overreaches. The power behind the throne (Jarrett) is standing in quicksand.


28 posted on 11/11/2013 6:56:08 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Any socialist/communist comparison of today’s era with the quasi socialism practiced by Nixon merits no consideration.
While the downfall of Nixon led to the disasterous end of a country,Viet Nam .

Nixon’s downfall was created by reasons I never fully understood. Watergate; Spying on political opposition, when at the time Nixon was leading in the polls. So what he was really looking for? Wasn’t necessary to reveal and to this day baffles me. Because the left and the ministry of onformation is in full control of the media we will never find out what it was.

Since the take over of the Democrat party in Demo-Coms by the very socialist/communist academics protesting during that time has led to massive corruption; Corporate cronyism,constitutional disbowlment,intrusions and the destructionn of a culture of individualism to conform to a state concept of collectivism hard was happening duriong Nixon’s reign


29 posted on 11/11/2013 6:58:10 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; Travis McGee
IF I LIKE YOUR CHEESEBURGER I CAN TAKE YOUR CHEESEBURGER


PERIOD!







30 posted on 11/11/2013 7:06:26 AM PST by devolve (- "He's (Obama) just 'too talented' to do what 'ordinary people' do." - Iranian-born Valerie Jarrett)
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To: Starboard

In my (very limited) exposure, All Jazz seems to be more unbiased, LOL


31 posted on 11/11/2013 7:09:03 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: central_va
"Lincoln tops the list of horrible Presidents. No one else comes close."

YES!

I agree 100%.

Over the years I have been looked at as a leper (and called much worse) whenever the mindless people brainwashed in government schools realized that I did not blindly worship Lincoln and place him at the top of the Best Presidents list.

He was such a diplomat and statesman that he presided over a war pitting brother against brother, ending with 1,000,000 casualties - 1.66% of the entire US population of 60 million. Lincoln left us with 600,000 dead Americans and another 400,000 wounded!

To put it in perspective, a war on that scale today would give us 5.5 million casualties with around 3.3 million killed and 2.2 million wounded.

Some statesman!

In truth he was a vile, manipulative politician who took the best path for himself, ideologically and politically, and did not concern himself with peripheral consequences or collateral damage.

But he could give a rousing good speech!

Now we once again have a man much like Lincoln sitting in the White House.

Obama's idolaters like to compare him with Lincoln.
I think it is a good comparison but for reasons they would not grasp.


32 posted on 11/11/2013 7:09:21 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Other than that Mrs Kennedy, how was the parade?


33 posted on 11/11/2013 7:09:43 AM PST by bray (Delay Obamacare)
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To: Gaffer

“Will, Kristol, and Krauthammer ALL sat in the those Sunday Political News/Discussion shows from even before Obama’s Immaculate Inauguration and calmly played the role of the token conservative of the [loyal, and not too vocal] opposition.”

This entire bunch is now in the process of trying to get Hillary elected.

The idea is to paint both the left and right as extremist, and portraying Hillary as being a moderate.


34 posted on 11/11/2013 7:12:05 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Youngman542012

You are right that we are losing our stature as a nation. But, honestly, we’ve never been liked by other GOVERNMENTS. Other nations and people may like us, but not other governments. We have tremendous resources. In the past, we’ve coupled that to a government that allowed this huge nation to stand like a colossus on this planet. What other government wants to compete fairly with us? China? A billion people with no resources. Russia? Still saddled with a bankrupt financial system. No other government likes us. The Germans didn’t cheer for Obama because they liked him. They cheered for Obama because they saw that he would weaken The United States.


35 posted on 11/11/2013 7:13:12 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Mike Darancette
Lincoln’s second term was pretty bad.

Lincoln's 'second term' only lasted 40 days... Mar. 4, 1865 - April 14, 1865.

36 posted on 11/11/2013 7:13:37 AM PST by Ditto
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To: central_va
Lincoln tops the list of horrible Presidents. No one else comes close.

Only in the fever swamp you live it.

37 posted on 11/11/2013 7:17:05 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Iron Munro

Don’t get me wrong, if CWII starts Obama will surpass Lincoln on the worst list.


38 posted on 11/11/2013 7:19:33 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mosesdapoet; All

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled George Will: Let’s face it — besides Nixon’s, this is pretty much the worst second term

Typo corrections to a previous post by mosesdapoet

Nixon’s downfall was created by reasons I never fully understood. Watergate; Spying on political opposition, when at the time Nixon was leading in the polls. So what he was really looking for? Wasn’t necessary to reveal and to this day baffles me. Because the left and the ministry of onformation is in full control of the media we will never find out what it was.

Since the take over of the Democrat party into a hypehated political party, Demo-Coms, by the very socialist/communist academics protesting during that time has led to massive corruption; Corporate cronyism,constitutional disbowlment,intrusions and the destructionn of a culture of individualism to conform to a state concept of collectivism through the use of lies and deception because their end justifies their means hardly was happening during Nixon’s reign .


39 posted on 11/11/2013 7:22:01 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: jetson
Whats all of this worst second term BS. This prez is a lying crook.

*shrug* He does admit that he's 'really good at killing people'...

40 posted on 11/11/2013 7:22:39 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

second term???? how about the whole damn thing...can’t wait for this idiot to be GONE!!!!!


41 posted on 11/11/2013 7:23:44 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (Get the USA out of the UN then get the UN out of the USA; send bamaboy back to Kenya ASAP!!!!)
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To: central_va
Lincoln tops the list of horrible Presidents. No one else comes close.

Would a second bloody civil war change your mind?

If so, stick around...

42 posted on 11/11/2013 7:25:31 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: central_va
Don’t get me wrong, if CWII starts Obama will surpass Lincoln on the worst list.

Obam already is worse except for the fact Lincoln has the higher body count.

But remember, just recently we found out that Obama thinks he is really good at killing so the book is still being written.


43 posted on 11/11/2013 7:29:15 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: nascarnation
In my (very limited) exposure, All Jazz seems to be more unbiased, LOL

At least for now, they're still trying to woo viewers.

CNN used to accurately report news once upon a time.

Once they established a viewership, the agenda slowly, subtly slithered in.

44 posted on 11/11/2013 7:29:15 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Iron Munro
To put it in perspective, a war on that scale today would give us 5.5 million casualties with around 3.3 million killed and 2.2 million wounded.

To put that in perspective obama mentor Bill Ayers advocated flat-out murdering 25,000,000 Americans.

45 posted on 11/11/2013 7:31:26 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

It won’t be getting any better, for the country, or for Obama, and there is nothing his media can do to patch things back together.


46 posted on 11/11/2013 7:37:42 AM PST by pallis
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To: null and void
To put that in perspective obama mentor Bill Ayers advocated flat-out murdering 25,000,000 Americans.

Good point.

These commie ba****ds won't be content until they earn a place in the history books on the same page as Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Kim Il Sung.


47 posted on 11/11/2013 7:38:18 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: listenhillary

Where did you get the picture of “Chip” Carney?


48 posted on 11/11/2013 7:39:07 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Not even close. Mr. Nixon still loved this country and was attempting to stop Socialist decadence.
49 posted on 11/11/2013 7:48:03 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: luvbach1

Lincoln saved the country, and was murdered for it.

Obama seems to be attempting to destroy the country, and his end remains to be seen.


50 posted on 11/11/2013 7:49:27 AM PST by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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