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Is Bundy's Protest Tarnishing the Tea Party? (Weekly Standard jumping the shark?)
The Weekly Standard ^ | April 22, 2013 | Michael Warren

Posted on 04/22/2014 6:56:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Senior writer John McCormack joined Greta van Susteren's political panel Monday on Fox News to discuss the protest at the Bundy ranch in Nevada. Watch the video below:

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

Meanwhile, in this week's issue, the Scrapbook writes about the problems with Cliven Bundy's cause:

Twenty years ago, the federal government, which owns the land on which Bundy grazes his 900 cattle, decided to impose a grazing fee. Bundy opposes that fee, has consistently refused to pay it, and the federal Bureau of Land Management now claims that he owes $1 million in unpaid fees. Bundy has challenged the grazing fee in federal court—indeed, has challenged the federal government’s title to land in Nevada—and has consistently lost. Sixteen years ago, a federal judge issued a permanent injunction against Bundy, ordering the removal of his cattle. Bundy appealed that ruling to the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, and lost again. Last August, a federal court gave Bundy 45 days to remove his cattle, and in October, a federal district judge ordered Bundy not to “physically interfere with any seizure or impoundment operation.”

This does not sound to The Scrapbook like the dread hand of tyranny, in Nevada or Washington, oppressing an innocent farmer, or pushing some law-abiding citizen around. It sounds, instead, like a rancher gaming the system to his own financial advantage, and disguising his scheme in populist rhetoric: refusing to pay a tax which others must pay, and “tying up the courts”—for two decades!—as he continues to ignore the law. Far from acting in an arbitrary or capricious manner, the federal government has shown patience and forbearance in the face of lawlessness that customarily lands people in jail. It is worth noting that Bundy’s rancher-neighbors and the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association, who contend with the same federal policies, offer him little support.

Bundy has exercised his First Amendment right to plead his case publicly and inflame his admirers. And inflamed they have been: A few hundred people from around the country converged on Nye County, Nevada—many armed and brandishing weapons—to disrupt the government’s attempt to enforce the law, taunting and attacking agents dutifully carrying out the orders of a federal court. Last week, fearful of violence, the BLM suspended its roundup and withdrew from the area.

This is no victory for anyone other than Bundy and, The Scrapbook hopes, a temporary one at that. There is a term to describe the people who surround him, and it isn’t “militia.” The word is “mob.” And what this mob has practiced is not civil disobedience but armed provocation of a democratic government which has afforded Cliven Bundy every right and privilege as a citizen. One of Bundy’s supporters boasted to the press that “we were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front.” This is the same spirit that animates people who attack firemen during riots, or opposed school integration with violence in Little Rock, Arkansas. In that case, 57 years ago, President Eisenhower was obliged to send the 101st Airborne because, as he said, “mob rule cannot be allowed to override the decisions of our courts.”

What was true then remains true today. Cliven Bundy is no hero of any kind. No conservative would pick and choose the laws he intends to obey, defy the rest, and challenge the rule of democracy with guns. No hero would adopt the terrorist’s tactic of placing innocents in harm’s way. Any fool can pick up a weapon and aim at an officer of the law; the moral power of civil disobedience lies in the willingness to defer to the law and accept punishment on principle.


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1 posted on 04/22/2014 6:56:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The TEA party ain’t a party. It’s a movement.


2 posted on 04/22/2014 6:59:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The more Bundy talks about his bizzaro jurisdictional theories, the crazier he sounds.

The Tea Party opposes government overreach and overkill - but it tends to avoid Gordon Kahl style muttering.

The point here is that the BLM sent an army against an old man who never fired a shot.

3 posted on 04/22/2014 6:59:53 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, I don’t know if it is tarnishing us, but we are indeed a minority and a majority of Americans just don’t agree with our vision. That is a truism.

What will that mean in the long run? Too early to tell.


4 posted on 04/22/2014 7:00:21 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, I think I see a shark swimming away unharmed by the Weekly Standard’s latest screed from the GOPe end of the ruling elite.


5 posted on 04/22/2014 7:00:38 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

a ...”mob”

given that the Armed American Civilians did not use their arms should seperate them from terms like [a] MOB.

Ive never heard of an armed....”mob” not using thier weapons...


6 posted on 04/22/2014 7:02:30 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did Lexington and Concord “tarnish” the Minutemen?


7 posted on 04/22/2014 7:02:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shillage ALERT!

“No conservative would pick and choose the laws he intends to obey, defy the rest, and challenge the rule of democracy with guns.”

A) What democracy, we don’t have one. We don’t have a republic either anymore.

B) The Founders gave us the 2nd Amendment exactly for instances like this. Facing down tyranny.

This is a hit piece.


8 posted on 04/22/2014 7:03:06 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: wideawake

The point here is that OBAMA and the government sent an army against an old man who never fired a shot.


10 posted on 04/22/2014 7:04:33 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Any fool can pick up a weapon and aim at an officer of the law; the moral power of civil disobedience lies in the willingness to defer to the law and accept punishment on principle.

Uh huh. Assuming the law is amenable to that form of suasion. The Jews found out what happens when it isn't.

No conservative would pick and choose the laws he intends to obey, defy the rest, and challenge the rule of democracy with guns.

This isn't a democracy. And every citizen in it is not only capable, but obligated, to choose to disobey laws that are unconstitutional. It isn't a privilege, it's a duty. The author of this Scrapbook is unworthy to be an American.

11 posted on 04/22/2014 7:04:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Amen and amen ... you have the right of it.


12 posted on 04/22/2014 7:04:53 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Fred and Bill probably think so.


13 posted on 04/22/2014 7:05:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: cloudmountain

I would hope that I would never have to count on someone like you for support.


14 posted on 04/22/2014 7:06:14 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The federal government owning this much land is socialism/communism and tyranny. it must give the land to private owners NOW:


15 posted on 04/22/2014 7:08:31 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: wideawake

Bundy is kind of stinky in my mind....20 yrs profit off federal land...

But then theres Reed and his sons Selling fed land for a fraction of its value....to the chinese ...

Two issues just reached the public...finally .....Reed is very dirty...

And some of our political hacks are selling our land to the chins.....Dugh

Gun control,Alaskan Oil,Destabilize Mexico,and Special Economic Zones....Thats what they Pay for....Thats where the bribe money IS.....Soon the gen public will see...imo..


16 posted on 04/22/2014 7:08:36 PM PDT by Therapsid
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To: Therapsid

I forgot “weaken the military”

That prob. pays well too.


17 posted on 04/22/2014 7:09:38 PM PDT by Therapsid
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dear Mr. Warren, you folks consistently miss the point, even when the point is as big as a house, you manage to miss it. The man has a legitimate beef. $50,000 a year for grazing fees with no improvements and the grazing fees just went into effect a few decades ago. With them came promises that were never fulfilled. Have you seen that land? It’s not lush pasture, it’s scrub brush. But even if he’s wrong, the government had NO business coming onto his land, destroying the water tower, killing cattle to collect a bill. Doesn’t that bother you? Or are you so cowed that you will accept anything. Where is your manhood Mr. Warren?


18 posted on 04/22/2014 7:10:03 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Weakly Standard has always been second rate and off kilter.


19 posted on 04/22/2014 7:10:03 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WS is, and has been, GOPe tripe.


20 posted on 04/22/2014 7:12:14 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RIghtwardHo

if it weren’t for the media, the majority of Americans would be much more sympathetic to the TP


21 posted on 04/22/2014 7:14:10 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: cloudmountain
You are helping the government take more of your individual rights away . you sound like a socialist/democrat the evil government and Obama chased away all of the ranchers and now one is standing up for his rights. so the evil gov and evil Obama sends an army against and old man just trying to make a living . and you support the government. how can you be on a conservative site?

The federal government owning this much land is socialism/communism and tyranny. The Constitution didn't intend for the federal government to own 86% of the land of Nevada etc. .it must give the land to private owners NOW:


22 posted on 04/22/2014 7:15:04 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

and as much as they try, the Tea Party ain’t going away.


23 posted on 04/22/2014 7:15:29 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“fearful of violence”

What bull. BLM showed up and pushed people to the ground, sicced dogs on people, and electrocuted others with tazers.

They were violent, attempted to incite violence, and threatened violence.


24 posted on 04/22/2014 7:15:46 PM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Forget them. Second Party Now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is it true that the ranch is not really "ancestral" family land, but was really bought by his father in 1946, and they didn't start raising cattle until 1954?

An abbreviated look at rancher Cliven Bundy's family history

25 posted on 04/22/2014 7:18:09 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Michael Warren is a staff writer at The Weekly Standard. He is 2012 Robert Novak journalism fellow, and he has written for the Washington Times, National Review Online, City Journal, and the Washington Examiner. He has also appeared on CNN and C-SPAN.”

Thinnest bio ever....well except maybe Obama’s.

IF this guy ever actually met a tea party individual he would no doubt wet his pants


26 posted on 04/22/2014 7:19:24 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Is the Cattle Massacre at Nevada Cattle Rancher Bundy’s Pioneer Corral damaging the Democrat Party?

To put this latest Medieval “Kill for Sport” event in historical context, all one has to do is remember that the Democrat Party was the Founding Party of the KKK.

Is the modern day equivalent of the KKK the Bureau of Feudal Land Management, (BFLM) ?

If so, then Feudal Lord Reid would then be “The Grand Dragon of the BFLM.”

Feudal Lord Reid’s Rustlers are hired guns, who are furious but not fast, which also applies to their bitter, vengeful, senile, multimillionaire Leader: Feudal Lord Reid.

With the past Democrat-based KKK, and now the present Democrat-controlled BFLM, ethics be damned, as abject fear is the main goal of both of these Medieval Outlaw Gangs, past and present.

“Ethics” will be justified later by Liberals who will write the ‘revised” PC History of these times, past and present; of powerful men with outlaw hatred toward free people in America, Black or White, poor or rich.

The Jackboot Heel of Democat Tyranny is now upon us, AGAIN !

FORWARD!


28 posted on 04/22/2014 7:20:15 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Nifster

I knew Robert Novak, Bob was a friend of mine and Michael, you’re no Bob Novak!


29 posted on 04/22/2014 7:21:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Billthedrill
...every citizen in it is not only capable, but obligated, to choose to disobey laws that are unconstitutional. It isn't a privilege, it's a duty. The author of this Scrapbook is unworthy to be an American.

You are exactly right.

In point of fact, this is the duty of every juror, one of the reasons for a jury, and every citizen when not on a jury.

It is also a duty to be informed of these facts.

30 posted on 04/22/2014 7:21:40 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: cloudmountain

Glenn Beck, is that you? The American Revolution started for less. The people have been way too ‘long suffering’. Do I wish for that, again? Absolutely not. But I can feel, hear, and taste the anger in this country and it’s palpable. Can cut it with a knife. Look at what happened in China a day ago. Eventually, people have had enough.


33 posted on 04/22/2014 7:22:15 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: cloudmountain
The feds are using the endangered species act to prevent the public from using PUBLIC land.He didn't stop paying grazing fees, which are to be used by the blm to manage the grazing lands, until the blm forced the ranchers to cut the size of their herds to unprofitable levels and then use the fees to buy out their grazing RIGHTS and putting them out of business.

51 other ranchers in Clark county are gone. Bundy is the last man standing.

34 posted on 04/22/2014 7:22:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: McGavin999

It isn’t just Mr. Warren. It seem there are a lot of uninformed Freepers right here on this thread.

At least I hope they are simply uninformed. The alternative would be hard to swallow.


35 posted on 04/22/2014 7:23:20 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Too bad the author didn’t study up on his facts before writing this trash.


36 posted on 04/22/2014 7:24:19 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: Therapsid
Bundy is kind of stinky in my mind....20 yrs profit off federal land...
But then theres Reed and his sons Selling fed land for a fraction of its value....to the chinese ...
Two issues just reached the public...finally .....Reed is very dirty...
And some of our political hacks are selling our land to the chins.....Dugh
Gun control,Alaskan Oil,Destabilize Mexico,and Special Economic Zones....Thats what they Pay for....Thats where the bribe money IS.....Soon the gen public will see...imo..

Hmmm, we live in the best place in the world and it's still not good enough for some. We are healthy, safe, educated, over-fed, under-exercised (speaking there for myself), have multiple cars, T.V.s and space enough to roll around heaven all day. STILL not enough.

Bundy just doesn't know how or care to play by anyone's rules but his. I hope he is thinking about the effect this has on his family, near and extended, relatives and friends.
Nothing for them to be proud of here.

Lol. DON'T get me started on the Chinese. :o(
I agree with your assessments.

38 posted on 04/22/2014 7:26:40 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More like polishing it shine on that city on the hill.


39 posted on 04/22/2014 7:27:55 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Not exactly. During the Clinton impeachment, their front page issue read: Their finest hour.” I like Fred Barnes, a christian and he writes well. The others, take them with a full measure of salt.


40 posted on 04/22/2014 7:28:10 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lame-stream hedging their bets?


41 posted on 04/22/2014 7:28:27 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: sport
On this site i’ve seen that one and at least 2 others attack Bundy and support the government action against Bundy .how could anyone support this government and support the federal government owning 86% of the land in Nevada and support Obama sending an army against an old man , a private rancher American citizen just trying to make a living is beyond me. The government has used evil tyranny to drive off the rest of the ranchers for environmentalism/communism and they support this. incredible

my guess is they are democrats . what they are doing on this site is probably being moles. in any case they are socialists

42 posted on 04/22/2014 7:28:43 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: jsanders2001

> from the article:
“ Cliven Bundy is no hero of any kind. No conservative would pick and choose the laws he intends to obey, defy the rest, and challenge the rule of democracy with guns. No hero would adopt the terrorist’s tactic of placing innocents in harm’s way. Any fool can pick up a weapon and aim at an officer of the law; the moral power of civil disobedience lies in the willingness to defer to the law and accept punishment on principle.”

What the author is forgetting is Bundy ran his cattle on public lands for many generations then the feds decided they wanted to charge him grazing fees and he paid them for sometime until they jacked them up to be cost prohibitive so he would remove his cattle from their lands because other parties were expressing an interest in the property. That didn’t work so they used an endangered species act ruse even though they had already killed plenty of the turtles themselves to “save them” and told him he needed to get the cattle off the land. Next we find that Harry Reid and son may be associated with the property on a solar panel energy project though they seemed to have changed their tune so who really knows without further research.

The author oesn’t mention thatl Obummer sure doesn’t mind spying on, stealing from, and setting his private armies on us. And he picks and chooses whatever laws he wants to enforce or makes new one or sidesteps and ignores his duties to ptotect the Constitution or the security of our nation by protecting our borders.

The Tea Party is just an observer in the process IMO. I haven’t heard any Tea Party members siding with Bundy in particular though its obvious they don’t like intrusive government


43 posted on 04/22/2014 7:29:46 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: cloudmountain

“space enough to roll around heaven all day”

Are you high?


44 posted on 04/22/2014 7:30:20 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only the US government could charge a million dollars for grass mowing.


45 posted on 04/22/2014 7:30:21 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: cloudmountain
December, 2005 by Comrade Chi Haotian ­the Vice-Chairman of China’s Military Commission to top officers and generals. Keep in mind that China has for many years advocated deceitful and covert warfare against its enemies. This is their Modus Operandi. There should be little question that a “Bird Flu” Pandemic would deeply excite them. (Don’t forget how they have poisoned thousands of American pets and knowingly placed lead paints on toddler’s toys.) “Comrades, I’m very excited today, because the large-scale online survey sina.com that was done for us showed that our next generation is quite promising and our Party’s cause will be carried on. In answering the question, ”Will you shoot at women, children and prisoners of war,” more than 80 per cent of the respondents answered in the affirmative, exceeding by far our expectations. Today I’d like to focus on why we asked sina.com to conduct this online survey among our people. My speech today is a sequel to my speech last time, during which I started with a discussion of the issue of the three islands [Taiwan, Diaoyu Islands and the Spratley Islands --- Ott] and mentioned that 20 years of the idyllic theme of ‘peace and development’ had come to an end, and concluded that modernization under the saber is the only option for China’s next phase. I also mentioned we have a vital stake overseas. The central issue of this survey appears to be whether one should shoot at women, children and prisoners of war, but its real significance goes far beyond that. Ostensibly, our intention is mainly to figure out what the Chinese people’s attitude towards war is: If these future soldiers do not hesitate to kill even noncombatants, they’ll naturally be doubly ready and ruthless in killing combatants. Therefore, the responses to the survey questions may reflect the general attitude people have towards war..We wanted to know: If China’s global development will necessitate massive deaths in enemy countries; will our people endorse that scenario? Will they be for or against it? The fact is, our ‘development’ refers to the great revitalization of the Chinese nation, which, of course, is not limited to the land we have now but also includes the whole world. As everybody knows, according to the views propagated by the Western scholars, humanity as a whole originated from one single mother in Africa. Therefore no race can claim racial superiority. However, according to the research conducted by most Chinese scholars, the Chinese are different from other races on earth. We did not originate in Africa. Instead, we originated independently in the land of China. Therefore, we can rightfully assert that we are the product of cultural roots of more than a million years, civilization and progress of more than ten thousand years, an ancient nation of five thousand years, and a single Chinese entity of two thousand years. This is the Chinese nation that calls itself ‘descendants of Yan and Huang.’ During our long history, our people have disseminated throughout the Americas and the regions along the Pacific Rim, and they became Indians in the Americas and the East Asian ethnic groups in the South Pacific. We all know that on account of our national superiority, during the thriving and prosperous Tang Dynasty our civilization was at the peak of the world. We were the centre of the world civilization, and no other civilization in the world was comparable to ours. Later on, because of our complacency, narrow-mindedness, and the self-enclosure of our own country, we were surpassed by Western civilization, and the centre of the world shifted to the West. In reviewing history, one may ask: Will the centre of the world civilization shift back to China? Actually, Comrade Liu Huaqing made similar points in early 1980′s Based on an historical analysis, he pointed out that the centre of world civilization is shifting. It shifted from the East to Western Europe and later to the United States; now it is shifting back to the East. Therefore, if we refer to the 19th Century as the British Century and the 20th century as the American Century, then the 21st Century will be the Chinese Century! (Wild applause fills the auditorium.) Our Chinese people are wiser than the Germans because, fundamentally, our race is superior to theirs. As a result, we have a longer history, more people, and larger land area. On this basis, our ancestors left us with the two most essential heritages, which are atheism and great unity. It was Confucius, the founder of our Chinese culture, who gave us these heritages. These two heritages determined that we have a stronger ability to survive than the West. That is why the Chinese race has been able to prosper for so long. We are destined ‘not to be buried by either heaven or earth’ no matter how severe the natural, man-made, and national disasters. This is our advantage. Take response to war as an example. The reason that the United States remains today is that it has never seen war on its mainland. Once its enemies aim at the mainland, the enemies would have already reached Washington before its congress finishes debating and authorizes the president to declare war. But for us, we don’t waste time on these trivial things. Maybe you have now come to understand why we recently decided to further promulgate atheism. If we let theology from the West into China and empty us from the inside, if we let all Chinese people listen to God and follow God, who will obediently listen to us and follow us? If the common people don’t believe Comrade Hu Jintao is a qualified leader, begin to question his authority, and want to monitor him, if the religious followers in our society question why we are leading God in churches, can our Party continue to rule China?? The first pressing issue facing us is living space. This is the biggest focus of the revitalization of the Chinese race. In my last speech, I said that the fight over basic living resources (including land and ocean) is the source of the vast majority of wars in history. This may change in the information age, but not fundamentally. Our per capita resources are much less than those of Germany’s back then. In addition, economic development in the last twenty-plus years had a negative impact, and climates are rapidly changing for the worse. Our resources are in very short supply. The environment is severely polluted, especially that of soil, water, and air. Not only our ability to sustain and develop our race, but even its survival is gravely threatened, to a degree much greater than faced Germany back then Anybody who has been to Western countries knows that their living space is much better than ours. They have forests alongside the highways, while we hardly have any trees by our streets. Their sky is often blue with white clouds, while our sky is covered with a layer of dark haze. Their tap water is clean enough for drinking, while even our ground water is so polluted that it can’t be drunk without filtering. They have few people in the streets, and two or three people can occupy a small residential building; in contrast our streets are always crawling with people, and several people have to share one room. Many years ago, there was a book titled Yellow Catastrophes. It said that, due to our following the American style of consumption, our limited resources would no longer support the population and society would collapse once our population reaches 1.3 billion. Now our population has already exceeded this limit, and we are now relying on imports to sustain our nation. It’s not that we haven’t paid attention to this issue. The Ministry of Land Resources is specialized in this issue. But we must understand that the term ‘living space’ (lebenstraum) is too closely related to Nazi Germany. The reason we don’t want to discuss this too openly is to avoid the West’s association of us with Nazi Germany, which could in turn reinforce the view that China is a threat. Therefore, in our emphasis on He Xin’s new theory, ‘Human Rights are just living rights’ we only talk about ‘living’ but not ‘space’ so as to avoid using the term ‘living space.’ From the perspective of history, the reason that China is faced with the issue of living space is because Western countries have developed ahead of Eastern countries. Western countries established colonies all around the world, therefore giving themselves an advantage on the issue of living space. To solve this problem, we must lead the Chinese people outside of China, so that they can develop outside of China. Would the United States allow us to go out to gain new living space? First, if the United States is firm in blocking us, it is hard for us to do anything significant to Taiwan and some other countries! Second, even if we could snatch some land from Taiwan, Vietnam, India, or even Japan, how much more living space can we get? Very trivial! Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass colonization.
46 posted on 04/22/2014 7:31:50 PM PDT by Therapsid
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To: Grams A
I would hope that I would never have to count on someone like you for support.

Well, if you think Bundy is right then RIGHT back atcha.
Wrong is wrong. Bundy had options but he refused to choose them. Why would you support the lawbreaker? Cuz it WAS his land? Why didn't he hire some fancy lawyers to get his land back or to negotiate grazing fees BEFORE the Feds moved in? He didn't WANT this solved. He WANTED this confrontation and notoriety.

"Render unto Caesar's what is Caesar's and render unto God what is God's." Hmmmm, now WHO said that?

Whether Bundy likes it or not the grazing fees belong to "Caesar," not in his pocket.

47 posted on 04/22/2014 7:32:14 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Michael Warren is a staff writer at The Weekly Standard. He is 2012 Robert Novak journalism fellow, and he has written for the Washington Times, National Review Online, City Journal, and the Washington Examiner. He has also appeared on CNN and C-SPAN.

The CNN and C-SPAN part of the bio is most impressive ... NOT.

48 posted on 04/22/2014 7:32:35 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: sharkhawk
I never trust the lamestream media. This hit piece is from a C-B-S television station. 'Nuff said.
49 posted on 04/22/2014 7:33:55 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Democrat_media

just a matter of finding out who they are


50 posted on 04/22/2014 7:35:25 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Send your dollar to see the birth certificate)
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