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Hillary Clinton Did NOT Lie About Her Emails
Blue Nation Review ^ | August 4, 2016 | Peter Daou and Melissa McEwan

Posted on 09/05/2017 1:09:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Contrary to the furious spin from Hillary Clinton’s adversaries in the media and Republican Party, FBI Director James Comey did not undercut Hillary’s truthfulness on her State Department emails. In fact, his statement and testimony affirm that Hillary has been honest about the email issue from day one. Here are the facts, not the spin.

“We have no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI.” — James Comey

On various occasions over the past fifteen months, Hillary has said that she did not send or receive emails containing classified information or any material marked as classified. This, to the best of her knowledge at the time, was the truth. And nothing FBI Director James Comey said in his July 5th statement or during his July 7th Congressional testimony contradicts that conclusion.

Simply put: Hillary did not lie.

According to Comey, the year-long investigation of 55,000 Hillary emails did not reveal a single email clearly marked classified. Only three — just three — of Hillary’s emails “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information.” “Bore markings” is not the same thing as “marked classified.” In his July 7 testimony before Congress, Comey said that those markings were simply a (c) symbol somewhere in the body of the email and nothing in the header or subject line. He further stated that they were improperly marked and that it was reasonable for Hillary to assume they were not classified.

Additionally, two of those emails are now known to have been mismarked as a result of “human error.” They did not contain classified information.

Here’s what those two emails were about:

One email, dated Aug. 2, 2012, noted that Kofi Annan, the former secretary general of the United Nations, was stepping down as special envoy trying to mediate the war in Syria. A second one, sent in April 2012, discussed Mrs. Clinton’s call to the newly inaugurated president of Malawi.

Absent that pair of emails, Hillary’s opponents are left with this, from Comey’s statement: “110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.”

Let’s break that down. 110 out of 55,000 emails are said to have contained classified information. That’s just 0.2 percent of her emails. Crucially, these emails were not marked classified. And there is absolutely no indication or accusation that classified markings were concealed or removed.

Therefore, we can unequivocally say that out of 55,000 emails, Hillary never received or sent a single email that was both marked classified and contained classified information.

Additionally, media reports have indicated that the classified information contained in those 110 emails may frequently have been indicative of over-classification, as exemplified by the CIA classifying as top secret drone strikes that were already made public by the media.

Slate explains:

Seven of the eight email chains dealt with CIA drone strikes, which are classified top secret/special access program—unlike Defense Department drone strikes, which are unclassified. The difference is that CIA drones hit targets in countries, like Pakistan and Yemen, where we are not officially at war; they are part of covert operations. (Defense Department drone strikes are in places where we are officially at war.) But these operations are covert mainly to provide cover for the Pakistani and Yemeni governments, so they don’t have to admit they’re cooperating with America. Everyone in the world knows about these strikes; nongovernment organizations, such as New America, tabulate them; newspapers around the world—including the New York Times, where some of the same reporters are now writing so breathlessly about Clinton’s careless handling of classified information—cover these strikes routinely.

A very simple analogy is useful here. If a vegetarian ordered and consumed a vegetable dumpling off a menu and said they did not eat meat, they would be telling the truth. If a forensic investigation by the department of health later showed that the restaurant contaminated their vegetable dumplings with meat, it doesn’t retroactively make the vegetarian a liar. They were telling the truth as far as they knew it.

Extending the analogy further, saying Hillary “should have known” that 0.2 percent of her emails contained classified material when the material was unmarked, is akin to saying the vegetarian should have tasted the meat.

Put differently, why would classification markings even exist if the Secretary of State was required to divine the contents of all her emails? If everyone who has access to classified information “should know that the subject matter is classified,” then why do we even have a system that marks classified information?

The U.S. Secretary of State is one of the busiest people on the planet. It is unreasonable to expect that part of her job is to magically divine what is and is not classified — when it is unmarked. Especially considering she is working within an infrastructure where there exists a standard for marking classified information, and thus she is entitled to a reasonable expectation of not receiving classified information unmarked.

There is a system in place on which people are meant to rely. “You should have known the system was failing you and that this information was really classified” is not, actually, a reasonable standard. Not at all.

Hillary used an entirely different protocol for information she knew to be classified; clearly, if she’d known these email chains were classified, she would have handled them the way all other classified information was handled.

Another factor to consider is that in many, perhaps most, of these emails, Hillary was at the end of a long chain. Comey notably referred to email “chains” and never suggested that Hillary originated a classified email.

As a former adviser to Hillary, I know from personal experience how the process works. Hillary is often advised of an important issue or conversation by her senior aides. In fact, more than one of my emails or articles showed up among the 55,000 emails analyzed by the FBI. In each case, it was information forwarded to Hillary by an aide. [As an aside, none contained classified information.]

Comey’s testimony confirmed this point: “A lot of what ended up on Secretary Clinton’s server was stuff that had been forwarded up a chain, gets to her from her staff, a lot of that, forwarding and then she’d comment sometimes on it.”

Even if you set all these points aside, the fact that Hillary has been honest about her emails is really just common sense. If she knew she had sent or received classified information and also knew that there was an ongoing investigation that could result in a public finding, she wouldn’t make a knowingly false assertion. If she really is a scheming liar who tries to cover up misdeeds, why on earth would she say something that could be publicly proven false?

It’s patently obvious that Hillary has told the truth based on the facts she knew at the time. 110 out of 55,000 emails contained information that was NOT marked classified; nor did she know that they contained information deemed classified by other agencies. Simply put, Hillary trusted that the material she was sent — and on occasion replied to — was not classified. Because it was never marked classified. She stated her honest opinion when she said she didn’t send or receive classified information.

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One more fact of note on Hillary’s truthfulness:

Comey said that Clinton used numerous mobile devices. According to the sources, that also is a stretch, with the secretary using just one phone at a time. “In the normal wear and tear, you get a new phone,” one source said. “It’s just the normal wear and tear, and there was a small number of phones but never more than one at the same time.”

Comey himself conceded: “As new servers and equipment were employed, older servers were taken out of service, stored, and decommissioned.”

As we concluded previously, ultimately, this entire email story comes down to the conclusion, from the New York Times, that Comey “did not claim that Mrs. Clinton’s behavior had compromised any program or operation.” The Times quotes Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists, as saying, “There was no assertion of damage to national security because of this episode.”

No assertion of damage and no evidence of damage.

Most importantly, no bad intent on Hillary’s part. None whatsoever. Simply a mistake she regrets making.

She trusted government officials not to send her classified emails without markings. The fact that she placed her trust in people is what’s good about her character. The fact that her detractors in the GOP and media are trying to distort that trust into something nefarious says something about them, not her.


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Hahahahaha!
1 posted on 09/05/2017 1:09:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Could I get wasabi with that pretzel?


2 posted on 09/05/2017 1:17:57 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (TETELESTI Read em and weep Lucy! Yer times almost up.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe they are also selling the Brooklyn Bridge as part of the buildup for this...


3 posted on 09/05/2017 1:19:40 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The gypsies borrowed them from the Secret Service while they weren’t being guarded well enough.


4 posted on 09/05/2017 1:31:01 AM PDT by Scram1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He lost me at “Hillary Clinton Did Not Lie About Her Emails”


5 posted on 09/05/2017 1:31:11 AM PDT by stanne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article obviously coming from a state where marijuana is legal. Eight states where marijuana legal. Seven voted Hillary. Only Alaska voted Trump.


6 posted on 09/05/2017 1:31:23 AM PDT by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From CNBC.com...

A House panel grilled FBI Director James Comey two days after he recommended against prosecuting former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for an email server scandal. In the hearing, South Carolina Rep.

Trey Gowdy questioned Comey on the definition of intent and how Clinton could possibly evade punishment. ..."

Here’s a full transcript of the exchange:
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Gowdy: Good morning, Director Comey.

Secretary Clinton said she never sent or received any classified information over her private e-mail, was that true?

Comey: Our investigation found that there was classified information sent.

Gowdy: It was not true?

Comey: That’s what I said.

Gowdy: OK. Well, I’m looking for a shorter answer so you and I are not here quite as long. Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her e-mails sent or received. Was that true?

Comey: That’s not true. There were a small number of portion markings on I think three of the documents.

Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said “I did not e-mail any classified information to anyone on my e-mail there was no classified material.” That is true?

Comey: There was classified information emailed.

Gowdy: Secretary Clinton used one device, was that true?

Comey: She used multiple devices during the four years of her term as Secretary of State.

Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said all work related emails were returned to the State Department. Was that true?

Comey: No. We found work related email, thousands, that were not returned.

Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said neither she or anyone else deleted work related emails from her personal account.

Comey: That’s a harder one to answer. We found traces of work related emails in — on devices or in space. Whether they were deleted or when a server was changed out something happened to them, there’s no doubt that the work related emails that were removed electronically from the email system.

Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said her lawyers read every one of the emails and were overly inclusive. Did her lawyers read the email content individually?

Comey: No.

Gowdy: Well, in the interest of time and because I have a plane to catch tomorrow afternoon, I’m not going to go through any more of the false statements but I am going to ask you to put on your old hat. Faults exculpatory statements are used for what?

Comey: Well, either for a substantive prosecution or evidence of intent in a criminal prosecution.

Gowdy: Exactly. Intent and consciousness of guilt, right?

Comey: That is right[]

Gowdy: Consciousness of guilt and intent?

In your old job you would prove intent as you referenced by showing the jury evidence of a complex scheme that was designed for the very purpose of concealing the public record and you would be arguing in addition to concealment the destruction that you and i just talked about or certainly the failure to preserve.

You would argue all of that under the heading of content. You would also — intent. You would also be arguing the pervasiveness of the scheme when it started, when it ended and the number of emails whether

They were originally classified or of classified under the heading of intent. You would also, probably, under common scheme or plan, argue the burn bags of daily calendar entries or the missing daily calendar entries as a common scheme or plan to conceal.

Two days ago, Director, you said a reasonable person in her position should have known a private email was no place to send and receive classified information. You’re right. An average person does know not to do that.

This is no average person. This is a former First Lady, a former United States senator, and a former Secretary of State that the president now contends is the most competent, qualified person to be president since Jefferson. He didn’t say that in ‘08 but says it now.

She affirmatively rejected efforts to give her a state.gov account, kept the private emails for almost two years and only turned them over to Congress because we found out she had a private email account.

So you have a rogue email system set up before she took the oath of office, thousands of what we now know to be classified emails, some of which were classified at the time. One of her more frequent email comrades was hacked and you don’t know whether or not she was.

And this scheme took place over a long period of time and resulted in the destruction of public records and yet you say there is insufficient evidence of intent. You say she was extremely careless, but not intentionally so.

You and I both know intent is really difficult to prove. Very rarely do defendants announce ‘On this date I intend to break this criminal code section. Just to put everyone on notice, I am going to break the law on this date.’

It never happens that way. You have to do it with circumstantial evidence or if you’re Congress and you realize how difficult it is prove, specific intent, you will form lathe a statute that allows for gross negligence.

My time is out but this is really important. You mentioned there’s no precedent for criminal prosecution. My fear is there still isn’t. There’s nothing to keep a future Secretary of State or President from this exact same email scheme or their staff.

And my real fear is this, what the chairman touched upon, this double track justice system that is rightly or wrongly perceived in this country. That if you are a private in the Army and email yourself classified information you will be kicked out.

But if you are Hillary Clinton, and you seek a promotion to Commander in Chief, you will not be. So what I hope you can do today is help the average person, the reasonable person you made reference to, the reasonable person understand why she appears to be treated differently than the rest of us would be. With that I would yield back.

(the source of this transcript is closed captioning)

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/07/rep-trey-gowdy-rips-into-fbi-director-james-comey-on-hillary-clintons-intent.html

7 posted on 09/05/2017 1:41:28 AM PDT by ETL (See my FR Home page for a closer look at today's Communist/Anarchist protest groups)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How come this isn’t under “humor” ?


8 posted on 09/05/2017 1:43:12 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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I had a leftest tell me. "There was nothing in Clinton's Emails.
I asked, "how do you know that?"
leftist said, "because she said so."

I stayed absolutely quite for a few minutes to see if he caught what he just said.
Nope.. never got it

9 posted on 09/05/2017 1:50:32 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I stopped at: “As a former adviser to Hillary, I know from personal experience...”


10 posted on 09/05/2017 2:00:35 AM PDT by poconopundit (CNN is... Corruption News Neglected)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is no evidence she lied because Comey didn’t tape the. Interview and would not allow anyone to take notes. BULLSHIT.


11 posted on 09/05/2017 2:09:24 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: topher

Jesus. This is the same crap they were selling two years ago. LOCK HER ASS UP.


12 posted on 09/05/2017 2:10:43 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“In email, Hillary Clinton tells aide to send talking points ‘non-secure’”

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/state-department-releases-more-clinton-emails-several-marked-classified/


13 posted on 09/05/2017 2:12:45 AM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

None of this dishonest tripe explains why classified material was sent and received on a PRIVATE, UNSECURE server.

So, LOCK HER UP!


14 posted on 09/05/2017 2:18:37 AM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘Only three — just three — of Hillary’s emails “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information.” “Bore markings” is not the same thing as “marked classified.” In his July 7 testimony before Congress, Comey said that those markings were simply a (c) symbol somewhere in the body of the email and nothing in the header or subject line. He further stated that they were improperly marked and that it was reasonable for Hillary to assume they were not classified. Additionally, two of those emails are now known to have been mismarked as a result of “human error.”’

(A) The amounts of unmarked-but-classified-info-containing emails were greater than the 110 stated by Comey. About 2,000 were retroactively classified.
(B) “Bore markings” IS the same as “marked”
(C) How did those marked-confidential emails and classified-info-containg emails jump the air gap from the classified side to the unclassified side? What scheme did she order?


15 posted on 09/05/2017 2:28:58 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Dems are propping up Hillary like when she couldn’t walk to the van.

I actually hope she gets the nomination and that Obama and Pelosi will constantly campaign for her with the help of the Democrat Media. It would take the Democrat party down.

As far as her not lying about the emails. Were her lips moving?


16 posted on 09/05/2017 2:34:23 AM PDT by CptnObvious (uestion her now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Comey said “we” have no reason to believe she lied to the FBI .... Of course not. She hadn’t spoken to the FBI when he wrote that.


17 posted on 09/05/2017 2:45:51 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As an employee of the Dept of State, is she permitted to drastically alter or augment it’s IT networks’ structure the way she did? I think not.


18 posted on 09/05/2017 2:47:00 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having handled classified material, up to the classification that Hillary mishandled, I know from personal experience that this is horse manure. Anyone even marginally competent would have known the classification of that material and that (C) as a paragraph marking means “Confidential”. This story is not even a clever lie.


19 posted on 09/05/2017 2:48:06 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: GOPJ; MinuteGal; jsanders2001; V K Lee; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; scott says; Black Agnes; ...
As if we didn't know......definitely not a surprise, people.

It Wasn’t Comey’s Decision to Exonerate Hillary – It Was Obama’s
National Review ^ | 09/02/2017 | Andrew C. McCarthy /FR Posted by For Your Children

The thing to understand, what has always been the most important thing to understand, is that Jim Comey was out in front, but he was not calling the shots. On the right, the commentariat is in full-throttle outrage over the revelation that former FBI Director Comey began drafting his statement exonerating Hillary Clinton in April 2016 – more than two months before he delivered the statement at his now famous July 5 press conference.

The news appears in a letter written to new FBI Director Christopher Wray by two senior Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans, Chairman Chuck Grassley and Senator Lindsey Graham. Pundits and the Trump administration are shrieking because this indicates the decision to give the Democrats’ nominee a pass was clearly made long before the investigation was over, and even long before key witnesses, including Clinton herself, were interviewed. It shows, they cry, that the fix was in! {..snip..} (Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...

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(HAT TIP WULI) Obama.....abetted by Comey & Lynch..... short-circuited a Hillary indictment, and because she was not indicted, she could not be pardoned by Obama (a move for which the Clintons probably paid Obama plenty). So completing the investigation means indicting her by the Trump DOJ--b/c she is not in double jeopardy.

20 posted on 09/05/2017 2:48:17 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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