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August 15, 2002

Posted on 08/15/2002 6:36:18 PM PDT by Dog Gone

Where did this forum come from? I've done a search on Smokey, and Backroom, and I'm puzzled. What's the purpose, and what stuff gets posted here?


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: backroom; smokey
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Ah, I see the only topic is HEATED DISCUSSION, so I guess you should flame me for this, LOL
1 posted on 08/15/2002 6:36:18 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

How's that for a flame?

2 posted on 08/15/2002 6:47:12 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Dog Gone
I posted a similar thread asking the same question. It seems like this forum is mainly designed for mods to move popular threads to in order to keep them at the top of the screen.
3 posted on 08/15/2002 6:51:29 PM PDT by Maedhros
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To: Dakmar
Toasty.

Oops, I mean HOW DARE YOU POST A PHOTO LIKE THAT?

Just trying to make sure this thread stays on topic

4 posted on 08/15/2002 6:52:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Maedhros
I'm guessing it's for threads where tempers flare and posts would otherwise dominate the other forum. Just a guess. We do deserve an explanation, or it won't be used properly or maybe at all.
5 posted on 08/15/2002 6:54:47 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Jim posted a message to the moderators,
Mods: The Smokey Backroom is here. This forum is setup for those who want a little more heated debate. I'm recommending that we allow a little more rule bending here. We don't want the racist stuff or the propaganda, but we can allow the people to let their hair down a bit. Spitting, biting, hair pulling and cursing allowed as long as they don't go to extremes.

I'm thinking we can also move out of control flamewar threads to this forum rather than deleting them.

Forum internal name: backroom
Topic: heated.

Jim

Reported by Jim Robinson on 2002-08-15 13:48:35


6 posted on 08/15/2002 7:03:29 PM PDT by John Robinson
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To: John Robinson
Woo Hoo! I win a prize!

Actually, I think this is a darn good idea, John. This forum improves constantly. Remember all the complaints when we switched to the new format?

Everyone would scream if we went back now!

7 posted on 08/15/2002 7:10:26 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: John Robinson; VA Advogado
Cool, can I ask, for instance, how many other FReepers dislike VA_Advogado?
8 posted on 08/15/2002 7:11:40 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Dog Gone
The Smokey Backroom is an enter at your own risk forum. We're going to relax the rules a bit here, as far as heated debate is concerned. This is where you can roll around in the mud and the blood and the beer, so to speak. And if someone gets a piece of his ear bitten off and lets out a curse word or two, he probably won't get banned (as long as he doesn't make a habit of going overboard).

In other words, some of the rules may be loosened up a bit in this forum. But not the rules against racism, or leftist propaganda, etc. That kind of stuff is still not welcome on FR. If a flamewar breaks out on FR, we may ask the flamers to take it to the backroom.

Or, in some instances, we may move entire threads here. This is an alternative to deleting them. We'll be playing it by ear for awhile and see how it is received.

This is not to say that we're going to welcome vicious or nasty attacks, libel or slander, but if some of you wish to get a bit heated and all of the participants involved have thick skins and are not going to cry about it, here's the place.

9 posted on 08/15/2002 7:20:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
I think it's a good idea, Jim. The problem is going to be deciding when to move a thread from the other forum here, and whether people take it as a license to be deliberately abusive in the other forums because they get one free bite at the apple.

This might have made the moderators' jobs a little bit harder, at least at first.

10 posted on 08/15/2002 7:26:35 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Yes, I know. I hope the posters take it in the spirit intended. If moving threads turns out to be a big problem we'll probably not do it.
11 posted on 08/15/2002 7:34:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
I think it's a great idea, I just hope people remember that they are conversing with other human beings, mostly conservative ones at that. I think it can be done, and I congratulate you on your bold experiment.
12 posted on 08/15/2002 7:41:39 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Dakmar
You clearly have VA envy.
13 posted on 08/15/2002 7:41:54 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, is it by design that posts here don't show up in the latest posts page?

Are you going to provide a link from the regular forum?

Thanks, great work as usual.
14 posted on 08/15/2002 7:43:48 PM PDT by Lx
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To: Lx
Jim, is it by design that posts here don't show up in the latest posts page?

Not speaking for Jim, but for some time now, you've only seen the latest posts in the forum you're in.

Which was EXACTLY the point of creating the different forums.

15 posted on 08/15/2002 7:46:18 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: VA Advogado
Now, now, I wan't trying to pick a fight here, I was just asking John R about the type of post that would be allowed in the new forum. I used you as an example, since you are the only FReeper that seems to have a visceral hatred of yours truly, and pinged you as a common courtesy being that I mentioned you by screen name.
16 posted on 08/15/2002 7:50:02 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Dog Gone
Really? I've always used the following link that appears on the main page.

http://www.freeRepublic.com/focus/news/browse?ao=0

I thought it had all of the latest posts for all of the forums.
17 posted on 08/15/2002 7:50:53 PM PDT by Lx
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To: Lx
Nope. Notice the "news" in that link? That takes you to the News/Activism forum.
18 posted on 08/15/2002 7:54:33 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Well, I'll be dipped. Is there a link that lets you see the latest posts in all forums?
19 posted on 08/15/2002 7:58:31 PM PDT by Lx
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To: Lx; Jim Robinson
No. When you click on Your Comments, it looks at all forums for any posts to or from you, but if you want to see if any new threads have been posted in the Religion Forum, for example, you need to click over there.

I'm guessing that well over 95% of all posts are made in the News/Activism Forum, but a lot really shouldn't be the way this site has been designed. If people really started using FR the way it's set up, you'd get to the threads you're interested in a LOT faster, even with the extra click it takes to switch forums.

Jim, this brings up a point I've been meaning to raise. If the moderators would get aggressive about pulling threads from News/Activism into the proper forum, then people would start following those threads and getting used to posting in the proper forum. They'd switch forums as appropriate. As it stands now, if you want anyone to read a new article, it had better be posted in News/Activism (even it's clearly General Interest or Election stuff) or it won't get seen by people who don't realize the other Forums mean anything.

You probably shouldn't immediately reclassify a thread. Wait until enough people are hooked on it before dragging it over. The people will follow it over automatically when they click on Your Comments, and before long the folks will be used to surfing the various forums properly.

20 posted on 08/15/2002 8:14:46 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Gotcha, Thanks.
So this means that there will eventually be a link to this forum on the home page or is it already there and I'm missing it?

21 posted on 08/15/2002 8:24:13 PM PDT by Lx
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To: Dog Gone
Aha! Thanks to someone on the Klayman thread, I found the Smokey Backroom forum on the latest posts page on the right under, My Forums.
22 posted on 08/15/2002 8:27:12 PM PDT by Lx
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To: hole_n_one; Bella_Bru
I win, I win! Welcome to the FR ghetto ;)
23 posted on 08/15/2002 8:32:00 PM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
Welcome to the jungle, lol.
24 posted on 08/15/2002 8:37:15 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: dighton; Orual; aculeus
Thank you, welcome to the "Smokey Backroom" - pick up your weapons at the door...
25 posted on 08/15/2002 8:38:29 PM PDT by general_re
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To: Dakmar
Stop over at #25 for your equipment... ;)
26 posted on 08/15/2002 8:39:16 PM PDT by general_re
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To: Dog Gone
Actually, if you click your name in the upper right-hand corner of the main page and then select REVIEW....you can see all the threads(based on your Preference parameters) for all Forums you subscribe to.
27 posted on 08/15/2002 8:42:28 PM PDT by justshe
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To: general_re
Beautiful, that should do nicely! I'll take two dozen.
28 posted on 08/15/2002 8:45:03 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: justshe
Yikes. I've never seen that. At first glance, that is one INTIMIDATING page. LOL.
29 posted on 08/15/2002 8:46:37 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
I haven't found a way to subscribe to The Smokey Backroom, however. So I don't know if this is going to be an option. Shall we ask?

BTW........I 'stumbled' onto that Review function! Saves time in a way!
30 posted on 08/15/2002 8:50:25 PM PDT by justshe
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To: justshe
Shall we ask?

I think "subscribing" means making it one of the sidebars. I'll have to wait to see how it works out, but The Smokey Backroom almost sounds like a combination of a back alley and Time Out, LOL.

31 posted on 08/15/2002 9:00:15 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: general_re
Is that legal in California? and how long is the waiting period...
32 posted on 08/15/2002 9:02:21 PM PDT by Lx
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To: Lx
Is that legal in California?

Until they go whole-hog and ban smoking outright, just tell 'em it's a cigarette lighter.

and how long is the waiting period...

I think it's a DIY kind of thing... ;)

33 posted on 08/15/2002 9:11:58 PM PDT by general_re
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To: Jim Robinson
This is where you can roll around in the mud and the blood and the beer

Fantastic.  It's enough for a boy to change his name to Sue!!!

34 posted on 08/15/2002 9:59:25 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Dog Gone
I just thought of a situation..and I wonder how it will be handled. Say you have 10 or so folks........calmly discussing/debating. Enter X and Y. X and Y are abusive and sling the occasional profanity.

Will X and Y have their posts removed by the moderator...or will the thread be bumped to the SBRoom where the other posters have their choice of: 1)enduring X and Y or 2)be forced to cease their participation in the thread?
35 posted on 08/15/2002 10:00:51 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Dakmar
Virtually all who've run across him, I'd bet.
36 posted on 08/15/2002 11:39:37 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage
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To: justshe
Currently, you can only subscribe to topics. The Smokey Backroom has only one topic, Heated Discussion, subscribing to that will effectively get you everything back here.

Scroll up to the top of this thread, just below the article part, find the TOPICS: Heated Discussion, click that, then click "Subscribe to this Topic" (sounds more complicated than it is.)

37 posted on 08/16/2002 12:50:55 AM PDT by John Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
This is excellent. I'm so sick of the children who can't control themselves mucking up the news forum. Thank you for this.

Will you be sending flame threads here instead of deleting and/or locking them?

This would be a good place to allow all of the serial bannees to post, seeing as so many insist on coming back over and over again.

38 posted on 08/16/2002 2:09:34 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: Dakmar
I used you as an example, since you are the only FReeper that seems to have a visceral hatred of yours truly

I dont hate you. In fact I appreciate you. I look at your screen name every day and thank God I was not born with the same mental & emotional deformities that you were.

39 posted on 08/16/2002 4:20:53 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
You're hilarious, you should move down to Gitmo and secure yourself a position as prison guard. I'm sure you would get along fine with the inmates since you have so much in common with them.
40 posted on 08/16/2002 5:19:36 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Dog Gone
Oakey doakey, listen up. John created this site a long time ago as a place where old pirates and mellowed liberals could come and laugh at the plug ugly conservative red-pencil necked geeks who go from cuddly to clawing if'n anyone mentions trickle down as a synonym for a Depends advert.

Then too, since Yahoo made it nearly impossible to engage in rapid fire insults and the long suffering anti-anti freepers ignored the hamsters from afConistan it was important to have an outlet where we can get snarly...kinda, I guess.

The best thing is now John, Bob J, and people who really know something don't have to go to the libertine pothole to toy with the plug-uglies like A rat or similar rodent and other maggots complain about never getting no respect.

41 posted on 08/16/2002 5:21:05 AM PDT by harrowup
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To: Dog Gone
This might have made the moderators' jobs a little bit harder, at least at first.

Very possible. I would guess that what will happen at first will be some inconsistency in how things are handled, as each of us try various things to see what works best. And Lord knows, when there is a lot of inconsistency there will be howls. Such is life.

The way I am thinking of handling it at this point is that when I see a thread degenerating into a flame war, I am going to post on the thread a message saying to take it to the back room. I might even (if I am not busy), start a thread in the back room for those involved. Then, if the flame war continues in the main forum, a short one hour suspension would be in order to get the point across. And if that doesn't work, then getting longer. And if that doesn't work, then it would be time to cut the cord.

There will be growing pains with this, but hopefully it will work in the long term. Thanks, AM

42 posted on 08/16/2002 6:57:01 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Lx
At the top of the page you get from that link, if you look over to the top right, you should see a section called "My Forums". That has a link to the News/Activism forum, the Smokey Back Room forum, and a few others. You can use those links to move back and forth between forums.

Thanks, AM

43 posted on 08/16/2002 7:00:29 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
SMOKY! Not Smokey! You suck so bad! Where's the twelve dollars you used for lunch... is it some plot to enrich yourself at the expense of Jim Robinson? You are a liar and a thief, and an illiterate one at that.</MojoManiaMode>
44 posted on 08/16/2002 7:02:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: VA Advogado
I dont hate you. In fact I appreciate you. I look at your screen name every day and thank God I was not born with the same mental & emotional deformities that you were.

I love you. Kiss me.

45 posted on 08/16/2002 7:03:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Admin Moderator
The way I am thinking of handling it at this point is that when I see a thread degenerating into a flame war, I am going to post on the thread a message saying to take it to the back room.

That sounds like a pretty reasonable approach. Moving the entire thread, especially if it didn't get heated during the first 50 posts or so, would be a mistake I think. Most people here don't want a serious post to be hijacked into a flame war and moved. They want the rascals on the thread moved so that the thread can continue without them.

That's not to say that those who are getting angry don't have a legitimate argument. But they need a place to argue their points without ruining the thread for the rest of us.

It will be interesting to see how this evolves, but I think you may have already come up with the preferred way to handle this. I guess that's why they made you a Moderator. ;-)

46 posted on 08/16/2002 7:09:45 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: justshe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/t-heated/browse?subscribe=yes

That subscribes you to the Smokey Back Room.

By the way, you don't subscribe to forums. You subscribe to topics. Forums can have one or more topics. The Back Room only has one (for now).

And another tidbit- anything you subscribe to, you can turn into a sidebar.

Thanks, AM
47 posted on 08/16/2002 7:09:53 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Dog Gone; John Robinson
I am not sure if John has this planned, but I have always thought it would be nice to have two different types of subscriptions. One would put it on your overview page, and the other would put it on a sidebar.

In other words, right now a subscribe does both. It would be nice to be able to choose if a subscription results in a sidebar or not. If that was the case, I would subscribe to more topics and use the overview page a lot more than I do now.

Thanks, AM

48 posted on 08/16/2002 7:13:46 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Lazamataz
Can I flame back now? ;^)

According to Merriam-Webster, "smokey" is just fine:

Main Entry: smoky
Variant(s): also smok·ey /'smO-kE/
Function: adjective

49 posted on 08/16/2002 7:17:27 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Lazamataz

50 posted on 08/16/2002 7:20:57 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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