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Bill would lessen punishment for marijuana possession
News 8 Austin ^ | 2/18/2003

Posted on 02/19/2003 12:41:21 PM PST by new cruelty

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To: FreeTally
hehe, great points. im convinced.
21 posted on 02/19/2003 1:32:53 PM PST by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
hehe, great points. im convinced.

Are you being serious, or just a typical jerk with no legitimate argument to make? Its hard to tell with you.

22 posted on 02/19/2003 1:37:24 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: eno_
Don't be so sensitive, barbara.

Reread the post that has you all bunched up. I'll rephrase it for you if it helps you relax: You're right, if you are living paycheck to paycheck and cannot afford the penalty, as the law stands now, it is best not to do the crime have the vice at all.

23 posted on 02/19/2003 1:37:36 PM PST by new cruelty
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To: A CA Guy; *Wod_list
Never legal though, would not suggest we give an impression of approval to chemical vices.

So you must support banning the chemical vice of alcohol, so as not to give an impression of approval. Right?

24 posted on 02/19/2003 1:37:47 PM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: FreeTally
It doesn't, and anyone with an IQ of 50 knows it. People only support such laws for two reasons: A)They directly profit from the laws or B)They wish to force everyone to live how they want people to live.

You forgot:

C) They don't want to clean up or pay for other people's indulgences.

25 posted on 02/19/2003 1:56:39 PM PST by IncPen
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To: FreeTally
Exactly. God declared one and only one of his creations "illegal", and that was the "Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil". When men make God's creation's "illegal", they set themselves up as gods. And I remember something in the Bible about "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me".

Actually, one of the tenets of sobriety in the 12 step program is to replace the 'god' of addiction with a 'higher' power.

26 posted on 02/19/2003 1:58:08 PM PST by IncPen
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To: eno_
How impractical are we to declare a weed that is a mild intoxicant and less harmful than beer to be illegal? The scriptures contain much wisdom, and none of them suggest we ought to be teatotal.

The scriptures mention alcohol; do they mention recreational drug use?

27 posted on 02/19/2003 1:59:38 PM PST by IncPen
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To: new cruelty
That is a lot of money, money that could be used to buy some quality s#!t.

Pot will get you through times of no money better than money during times of no pot.

28 posted on 02/19/2003 2:01:47 PM PST by TightSqueeze (From the Department of Homeland Security, sponsors of Liberty-Lite, Less Freedom! / Red Tape!)
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To: new cruelty
That is a lot of money, money that could be used to buy some quality s#!t.

Pot will get you through times of no money better than money during times of no pot.

29 posted on 02/19/2003 2:02:23 PM PST by TightSqueeze (From the Department of Homeland Security, sponsors of Liberty-Lite, Less Freedom! / Red Tape!)
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To: new cruelty
We are never gone to get smart about the drug war. Punish the USERS not the SELLERS. Otherwise, make it legal. Punish the supply side of the equation and you will end up with a blackmarket, because as long as there is demand, there WILL be Supply. Drug-trafficking is economically predictable, its not a moral decision. IF you can make $5/hour doing something or $1000/hour doing something else alot more risky, then, despite the risk, someone will play that game every time.
30 posted on 02/19/2003 2:03:14 PM PST by Blackyce (Who woulda thunk it 2 years ago???)
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To: IncPen
The scriptures mention alcohol; do they mention recreational drug use?

Ah yes
Alcohol is consumed for its nutrional and health benefits
especially on all the college campi
American students are the healthiest around

Of course adult males use it because it helps them meet all the good lookin chicks in the bars and least that is what the TV commercials tell me
31 posted on 02/19/2003 2:05:27 PM PST by uncbob
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To: FreeTally
Sorry, I was kidding, I'm not really convinced. I don't agree with you 100% and I hope you can live with that.

Its great that you want to fight for the good of mankind and all that flowery stuff. I may be there with along side you at the ballot if this issue ever comes to that. For now, I am of the mindset that if you can't afford the high price (be it money, time in jail, rehab, etc.), don't do it. If you can, knock yourself out.
32 posted on 02/19/2003 2:08:09 PM PST by new cruelty
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To: TightSqueeze
lol, i'll remember that.
33 posted on 02/19/2003 2:08:49 PM PST by new cruelty
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To: IncPen
C) They don't want to clean up or pay for other people's indulgences

Like all those beer cans and bottles along life's highway or those car wrecks from the druken drivers
34 posted on 02/19/2003 2:08:56 PM PST by uncbob
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To: IncPen
C) They don't want to clean up or pay for other people's indulgences

Who do you think pays to arrest, prosecute, and imprison drug users? And while they're in prison they aren't paying any taxes, guess who gets to make up the difference?

35 posted on 02/19/2003 2:10:13 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: ThinkDifferent
Who do you think pays to arrest, prosecute, and imprison drug users? And while they're in prison they aren't paying any taxes, guess who gets to make up the difference?

Which is a known entity.

And the solution is to set all the drugs free on society, and there will be no consequences.

Riiight. Gotcha.

36 posted on 02/19/2003 2:12:59 PM PST by IncPen
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To: FreeTally
I can tell you are a Libertarian.

All rights resolve to:- I want to smoke dope.

Its a one note samba.

37 posted on 02/19/2003 2:19:14 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: IncPen
And the solution is to set all the drugs free on society, and there will be no consequences.

No consequences? Of course not, and nobody claims that. But a number of studies have found that treatment is much more cost-effective than law enforcement as a way of controlling the drug problem. If your concern is truly about the costs to society of drug users, you should oppose the WOD.

38 posted on 02/19/2003 2:23:16 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: BrooklynGOP
Yeee Hawww I loved the stuff in college. I never touch it now, as a respectable adult and parent... but if it were legal I would stop drinking wine and smoking cigarettes and I would have a Friday night joint, yes indeedy.
39 posted on 02/19/2003 2:29:04 PM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary - Mistress of Darkness?.......Me neither!!!!!!!!!)
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To: buffyt
I never really liked pot. I had at an ecstasy stage for a while though :)
40 posted on 02/19/2003 2:54:20 PM PST by BrooklynGOP (...speaking of dumb....)
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