Recent job ad: H1 transfers (Taking American Jobs)

Dice.com

[1stFreedom]

Folks,

I've been looking for a job for weeks without success. While searching on Dice.com, I found an ad targeting anyone with an H1 visa to transfer!

Whoever says workers on visas don't take jobs from Americans is smoking crack.

Foreign workers send money "home" thereby taking money out of the US economy. They take both old and new jobs away from Citizens. This might be fine during times of economic boom, but it's a shame during times like now.

Call and write your representatives in Congress asking them to, on an emergency basis, deny ALL H1 and L1 visas and related transfers. They may give you the excuse that they don't want to have the jobs shipped overseas, but don't accept that excuse. Ask them to impose heavy tarrifs or taxes on corporations that relocate thier IT work.

Tons of IT people have been out of work for some time now, and it's reached a boiling point.

I hate to say it, but I think we'll have more success with the Dems then the Pubbies.

(One thing the Pubbies are not considering is that many IT professionals are in fact incorporated and are small businesses.)

DICE Search results:

Title: H1 transfers Skills: JAVA, J2EE, EJB, oracle, DB2, SQL Server, Seibel, .net, VB, ASP, peoplesoft, CRM, Business analyst, 21 cfr PART 11, QA testers

Date: 4-7-2003 Location: Edison, NJ Area code: 732

Tax term: FULLTIME Pay rate: DOE Length: permanent

Position ID: AS202 Dice ID: 10108743

Job description: We are looking for a qualified candidates who are looking to transfer their H1. The candidates will be interviewed in their respective fields by experts and if selected will be considered for further training conducted in house. Salary will be based on skills. Local candidates preferred but is not a limitation. Good communication skills required.

Requirements: JAVA, J2EE, EJB, oracle, DB2, SQL Server, Seibel, .net, VB, ASP, peoplesoft, CRM, Business analyst, 21 cfr PART 11, QA testers Travel required: none Telecommute: no

[1stFreedom]

If you'd like to tell this company how you feel about displacing Americans with H1 visa workers, here is an address for them:

dice_r1@caresoftinc.com

[kellynla]

Where do you live?

[Jack Wilson]

After 20 years in IT, I am about to give up. I started a handyman business. Not as much money, but at least I get calls. I am current technically, the last few years doing Oracle and SQL Server programming, but not relevant. Wrong age and nationality.

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[timm22]

Call and write your representatives in Congress asking them to, on an emergency basis, deny ALL H1 and L1 visas and related transfers. They may give you the excuse that they don't want to have the jobs shipped overseas, but don't accept that excuse. Ask them to impose heavy tarrifs or taxes on corporations that relocate thier IT work.

Perhaps a better idea would be to improve your job skills, lower your asking price, or find a new line of work, instead of relying on government intervention for your livelihood.

[elfman2]

There're two sides to this. In my computer networking class 10 years ago, I was the ONLY American. The class was filled with two dozen potential H1 applicants. No Americans were hungry enough to take such a tedious course. Plenty of them in PE and business classes though…

[widowithfoursons]

H1 and L1 transfers are taking jobs from ENGLISH speaking folks. Half of my sons' college professors are barely literate or articulate in English. And we need this as well?

[snopercod]

If you think things are bad in the symbol-manipulation world, it's even worse in the engineering world.

[Born to Conserve]

I am in I.T.

I watched the boom, made really, really good money, knew there would be an IT labor glut eventually and prepared for it, got laid off. No regrets.

If you want to work in I.T. you have to be, intelegent, hard working, technically up to date, AND WILLING TO TAKE A PAY CUT!

You made more money then you were worth, now you're going to get what you're worth and no more.

Grow up or become a democrat.

[monkeywrench]

Why are these companies allowed to rely on govt. for THEIR livlihoods? If they can't afford to pay workers a decent wage, maybe the govt. should have told them to look for another line of work, instead of expecting bailout legislation, that enables them to hire cheap foreigners, just to line their pockets?

[waterstraat]

If you would rather that an American have a job here in the United States instead of a foreigner, then let your senator and congressman know how you feel, and remember to vote that way in November.

[BrooklynGOP]

Perhaps a better idea would be to improve your job skills, lower your asking price, or find a new line of work, instead of relying on government intervention for your livelihood.

Easy for you to say. Let's flood America with people who are willing to do what you are doing for half the pay. You'll change your tune pretty fast.

[Im Your Huckleberry]

They can be penalized big time for this. They have to offer jobs to American workers first.

I'd turn them in if I were you.

[Mr. Bird]

If you apply for this position, and an H1 applicant of equal or lower qualification gets it, you have grounds for a lawsuit. My guess is that they are advertising their willingness to sponsor, not restricting the applicant pool to non-citizens.

[BrooklynGOP]

Grow up or become a democrat.

I know people who are out of a job for ~1 year and who are willing to take *anything*. There is *nothing* out there.

[dark_lord]

Perhaps a better idea would be to improve your job skills, lower your asking price, or find a new line of work, instead of relying on government intervention for your livelihood.

Spoken by someone who knows nothing of the IT situation.
Improve the job skills -- "Jack Wilson" indicates he has been doing Oracle/SQL work. That is current - there is a large Oracle market out there.

Let me set out a few facts.
1st, it does not matter in the slightest how current your job skills are - if you have ever worked as a "senior manager", "director", "principal", or "VP of anything" -- forget getting a hands on job. It doesn't matter how qualified you are because those titles are code words for -- this guy is too old.
2nd, if you have more than 10 years of experience on your resume, again you are too old for 99.99% of positions.
3rd, you can leave salary and price per hour blank - doesn't matter. They base decisions to interview on whether you have less than 10 years of experience and never have a senior title in your resume.
4th, I don't care if you are the master of RUP, UML, XML, SQL,J2EE, EAI, ERP, CRM, SCM, and every other acronym in the book -- if you are over 40 you are screwed. You can't even get a job as a contractor. Heck, you can't even get an interview.

5th and finally - the H-1B situation was caused by direct government intervention into the market place. In no other country do they make it easy to go over there and get a job. Heck, try to get a job in our neighbor to the North, Canada. Hah! But here the government made it easy for a bunch of folks (about 1/2 million) to come over and get jobs. Result - net loss of 1/2 million American IT jobs.

[Orangedog]

Perhaps a better idea would be to improve your job skills, lower your asking price, or find a new line of work, instead of relying on government intervention for your livelihood.

Goverment intervention MADE this problem. We just want them to undo the damage they have done to this field. If that seems too meddlsome to some people, I'm sure they won't mind when they have to compete with indentured servants in their field of work.

[Im Your Huckleberry]

That's a B.S. answer. The government is allowing foreigners to take away jobs from Americans in the sneakiest of all possible ways.

Part of national soveriegnty is protecting the industry and job base of your nation's citizenry.

Our government is failing us.

[Mr. Bird]

Oh yeah, forgot one item: H-1B authos don't transfer.