Posted on 04/08/2003 12:45:08 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
Folks,
I've been looking for a job for weeks without success. While searching on Dice.com, I found an ad targeting anyone with an H1 visa to transfer!
Whoever says workers on visas don't take jobs from Americans is smoking crack.
Foreign workers send money "home" thereby taking money out of the US economy. They take both old and new jobs away from Citizens. This might be fine during times of economic boom, but it's a shame during times like now.
Call and write your representatives in Congress asking them to, on an emergency basis, deny ALL H1 and L1 visas and related transfers. They may give you the excuse that they don't want to have the jobs shipped overseas, but don't accept that excuse. Ask them to impose heavy tarrifs or taxes on corporations that relocate thier IT work.
Tons of IT people have been out of work for some time now, and it's reached a boiling point.
I hate to say it, but I think we'll have more success with the Dems then the Pubbies.
(One thing the Pubbies are not considering is that many IT professionals are in fact incorporated and are small businesses.)
DICE Search results:
Title: H1 transfers Skills: JAVA, J2EE, EJB, oracle, DB2, SQL Server, Seibel, .net, VB, ASP, peoplesoft, CRM, Business analyst, 21 cfr PART 11, QA testers
Date: 4-7-2003 Location: Edison, NJ Area code: 732
Tax term: FULLTIME Pay rate: DOE Length: permanent
Position ID: AS202 Dice ID: 10108743
Job description: We are looking for a qualified candidates who are looking to transfer their H1. The candidates will be interviewed in their respective fields by experts and if selected will be considered for further training conducted in house. Salary will be based on skills. Local candidates preferred but is not a limitation. Good communication skills required.
Requirements: JAVA, J2EE, EJB, oracle, DB2, SQL Server, Seibel, .net, VB, ASP, peoplesoft, CRM, Business analyst, 21 cfr PART 11, QA testers Travel required: none Telecommute: no
Who controlled the House and Senate in the mid 90's?
Appreciate your honest perspective, and Microsoft's too. However, how many American's will pay the $100K plus cost of a college education for an entry level salary of < $50K. They'll be paying their college loans the rest of their lives.
Moreover, the "blame the schools" game doesn't hold water. If Gates-ware gave a damn about it, they'd fund pilot School-Choice programs around the country, instead of supporting the teacher's unions. More kids are coming from private and home schooling backgrounds, and most of our colleges are still first-rate.
No, this is a classical "supply and demand" economic problem. The H1B program was introduced due to a very temporary blip in the IT market during the rapid ramp-up from UNIVACs and 370's to desktop-supercomputing, internet connected power (1985-2000). What the H1B program will do is permanently destroy the US market for domestic IT labor.
Making pennies you do not contribute much to the country budget, you enriched your employer who paid you with the chance of getting the citizenship. Americans cannot compete with such arrangement as they are not allowed to enter into servitude contract.
Now, are you proposing to open American boders to everyone?
...slightly off-topic...
We are also watching the US manufacturing base exit to the 3rd world.
At this time, the stampings business is exiting rapidly.
Price may be better--but when we lose all the toolmaker skills, WHO will manufacture military equipment??
They were opened when the Republicans gained control of the House and the Senate.
If me be benevolent dictator, then would I set tariffs not only to protect fledgling industries, but as well to equalize the transfer of legal and policy costs -- and then considering legal and policy transfers, I might even set tariffs to encourage (nicely or meanly, matters not which) such transfers of beneficent laws. For example, our environemntal laws, that require effluent not poison the neighborhood stream are a cost, yet some developing nations don't heed the regulation, poison their streams and give us the cheaper good on that account. I would set a tariff to avoid imports costed low on this account. On the other hand, many environmental laws and regs are wacko, and I'd have no tariff to encourage imports in such cases.
Likewise in labor and services -- we should set a tariff rather than run a silly paperwork program (H1, L1). That is an extra income tax extracted on Inidan labor. That would equalize the policy difference -- in India the technical schools and colleges are socialist -- tuition paid for by the State. That puts our young technologists and engineers are a GREAT disadvantage in competition. As already pointed out on thread, our students come out of school with a debt burden that -- it alone -- makes them uncompetitive with imported labor.
It means that government distributes the green cards/US citizenship to private employers to be used as part of wage and a way to have indentured workers.
If our Governor had his way that would happen or at least we would adopt China's teaching methods. He sends his wife to China annually to observe their teaching methods to include into her "Early Childhood Learning Initiative". Thankfully we have a dedicated group of Republican women who dog this committee and has been successful stifling their influence. So far.
As far as getting a job, forget about it. Our state chased away Boeing and many other employers. Last I heard we are the #2 unemployed state in the nation after Oregon, another "enlightened" state.
I'm troubled with the content of this post (and others too numerous to mention) for a variety of reasons.
To begin, I'm unsure when it happened, but many folks in the United States, have begun to feel some sort of entitlement to work, as if it is their right as a citizen to be employed. This, unfortunately, is entirely anti-capitalistic and the exact sort of thinking that created fat government programs like unemployment and welfare.
Second: You can't find work, sorry. I'm unsympathetic. There are other suppliers that are willing to supply their labor at a cheaper price. Deal with it. This is capitalism at work. This is what made America an economic superpower. As a true capitalist, I feel the government should have absolutely no restrictions on labor. If a foreign immigrant from Taiwan wants my job and is willing to do an effective job at half my salary, I fully expect my employer to fire me and hire the immigrant.
I want only what I deserve, and nothing more. Not only do I not want charity, I view those people, such as you, that demand charitable hand outs as a matter of right to be one of the most subversive and damaging influences to America today. It's the people that claim to be conservative that undermine everything for which conservatism stands. This is the reasons why the Right Wing has been split into factions too splintered and numerous to ever reconcile.
That sad lot is that the hard-hearted capitalists and advocates of greed and reason--the people that truly made America the greatest Nation on this Earth--have been replaced with feel good whiners who claim to be conversative capitalists but complain when the competition gets the best of them and wishes other taxpayers to subsidize their income.
I know you don't like me. I know you hate me. I don't mind. I don't seek to communicate to people like you. You are beyond help and reason. I seek to reach the people that have yet to be sucked into the self-created void socialism and "entitlement." They are out there, and they do not need to be won, but merely identified.
It will be done in China, while the soldiers will be Latinos who want to get citizenship.
He, he. Communist teaching methods (and pricing). I wonder how do they get ahead of Americans in learning the newest software skills :)
BTW, I was replaced by a guy half my age and have been a contractor since. Try finding a new permanent job in ANY industry if you're over 45...
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