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Free Republic Sucks ^ | May 1, 2003 | By Edgar Hall, Political Editor

Posted on 05/01/2003 11:06:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Well, well, well. And yet another anti-Freeper site springs up:

http://www.freerepublicsucks.s5.com/crackdownmay2003.htm

We must be doing something right to have so many Bush haters hating us so much.

Well, we wish you luck. You'll have plenty of competition from FR haters.


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To: Jim Robinson
Heyyyyy...How come an anti-freep site like that moron has gets publicity on freep but a pro freep one like mine gets yanked? A site like mine that promotes freerep, that even got a few hundred people to join freerep who never even heard of it? I tried twice, once last year and a few months ago and I got the official "this thread has been pulled" message...I get 13k visits a month, it`s not like I`m going to overtake freep!I`m on your side OK? If you want to see what site I run check my name. I don`t want this message yanked.
51 posted on 05/02/2003 12:06:43 AM PDT by metalboy (Hitlery is Hitler)
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To: pram
Debate is not the same as nutcases who want to disrupt. It's like hecklers at a debate. They are like psychotic children or people who just want to destroy. It is completely different from honest debate.

Have you ever considered that hecklers at a debate may have a valid reason for their protest?

52 posted on 05/02/2003 12:09:08 AM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
I think there's a good kernel or two of truth in the criticims leveled against Free Republic. This doesn't detract from its accomplishments. But it does seem to me that it's a good idea to go easy on the banning/suspending of posts that rub the wrong way.
53 posted on 05/02/2003 12:24:10 AM PDT by zook
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To: pram
Debate at the Bhuddist Temple


54 posted on 05/02/2003 12:26:01 AM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Jim Robinson
Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!

But please do not question the current administration.
55 posted on 05/02/2003 12:27:02 AM PDT by chnsmok
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To: chnsmok
Yeah, right. You would like Al Gore or Hitlery better I presume?
56 posted on 05/02/2003 12:29:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (FReepers are the GReatest!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
If I gave an honest answer, would you ban me?
57 posted on 05/02/2003 12:32:15 AM PDT by chnsmok
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To: chnsmok
Depends on what you call honest. If you honestly prefer Gore or Hillary over Bush, then I sincerely doubt your sanity.
58 posted on 05/02/2003 12:34:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (FReepers are the GReatest!!)
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To: fatima
BTT
59 posted on 05/02/2003 12:35:24 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jim Robinson
Lately when I read FR, I think of the lock step Dems that marched from the capital to the Whitehouse after impeachment. I can handle other points of view. I would encourage it.

independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web
60 posted on 05/02/2003 12:39:30 AM PDT by chnsmok
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To: Jim Robinson
What about those FREEPERs who prefer anyone, including, but not solely Dems,to President Bush ? They seem to yearn for a rerun of '92.
61 posted on 05/02/2003 12:40:11 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Thanks for the btt npd,things are just warming up and it's 3:40 AM here est-
62 posted on 05/02/2003 12:44:11 AM PDT by fatima (Go Karen,Look at all these's prayers.For all our troops,we love you.)
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Have you ever considered that hecklers at a debate may have a valid reason for their protest?

I have. I liken it to spreading the gospel in a way. The leftists hate it when christians try to convert them, they say we want to rob them of their minds and such, etc. Yet they go to great lengths to try to convert others to their way of thinking.

If you delete their posts for example, they cry about debate and dissent, but if you try to get them to convert to a faith (anyone will do for discussion) they get all bent and tell you that it is their personal choice, that you are stupid and brainless, etc and so on.

Yet the whole time these 'hecklers' are trying to convert you to their brand of belief. So if I go onto a buddhist discussion site and start trying to convert them or pointing out things I see as wrong in the buddhist faith, chances are people will get upset, disrupted, and the post will be deleted.

Now contrast that to if I ask a question I am not clear on or question some of the ideals without trying to convert them to my way of thinking (ie simply trying to get they themselves to be introspective) - that is much different then trying to push my agenda and beliefs through on their own board.

I discuss a broad range of things here. I don't trust the government whether it is Bush or anyone else, it is simply too large an entity for any one person to control - like a beast it grows even after the head is cut off (ie when the president or congress changes).

If you're not a conservative, then there are libertarian boards, democrat boards, etc where you can discuss things with like minded individuals and try to spend time focusing on issues you all agree are worth examining in a light the color of your choosing (btw by 'you' I am being general, not meaning this directly at you, just a quirk of my writing style).

I like Bush, but he can do better - so I would like to limit my discussions in a general way on that topic to that versus 'he is not doing what I want, he sucks has to go' - that is what the liberals like to do.

Interesting to note too: I saw an admin, or owner, of DU mention in a thread something about the next election. Said after a dem candidate was chosen they would not tolerate bashing them, they needed to work together to defeat bush as anyone was better than he was. - I would call that good political sense, you know not all the people who support someone will like everything they do, so you take the good with the bad.

I take the good with the bad on Bush. He is only one man and can only do so much, I would rather support him and any of his failings then some candidate who has no chance.

Overall, big government is evil, will continue to grow, no one will stop it, and the end of the world is coming regardless :)

63 posted on 05/02/2003 12:44:41 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: Jim Robinson
Everyone tell your bad FR stories to this guy! He is very professional and guarantees your "anonimity"!
64 posted on 05/02/2003 12:45:53 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Jim Robinson
Hating Bush, hating Bush supporters must be selling like pan cakes.

The agitprop industry has seen an upswing since Nov 2000. Too bad the consumers aren't more interested in following the money to see just what they are funding.

The anarchist-socialsts at akpress.org are a hint at the political goals of the anticapitalist protests in SF, DC and elsewhere. We tried calling the "feel good" housewives and college students "useful idiots" (appropriating Joseph Stalin's own phrase for these unwitting socialist sympathizers) and they still didn't get it.

65 posted on 05/02/2003 12:51:05 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Lancey Howard
Therefore, Edgar Hall is the son of Gus Hall.

No way! "...and me, I'm Edd Hall...;

"...tonight, Jay welcomes...."

66 posted on 05/02/2003 12:54:21 AM PDT by harrowup
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To: Jim Robinson
freerepublicsucks. Now that's original.
67 posted on 05/02/2003 1:00:05 AM PDT by onyx
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Have you ever considered that hecklers at a debate may have a valid reason for their protest?

Organized debates have rules and even have followup questions. There is also expected to be a level of civility to the proceedings. Hearing that President Bush is a nazi, "unelected", and a war criminal are assertions that disrupt a conversation at hand to take time to disect these ridiculous assertions.

The hecklers on FR don't discuss the issues at hand. Some of them post left wing tracts or angry vanities and then their accounts self-destruct (ZOT!). Some of them come trolling to other threads and don't address the topic of the thread and refuse to answer challenges to their posts.

If you go to a comedy club and an audience member heckles the performer, should the performer (and his audience) put aside the conversation at hand to ask him just what he is unsatisfied with? Everyone has an opinion. They don't all carry the same weight. Some are not fully rationalized thoughts and don't hold up under scrutiny.

68 posted on 05/02/2003 1:05:44 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: onyx
DemocraticUnderwear.com must have already been taken.
69 posted on 05/02/2003 1:06:50 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: fatima
Always happy to oblige with a BTT.

It's late here too and I see that that things are heating up. Some FREEPERs are beginning to " beg " to be banned. Then they'll scurry off to one ( all ? ) of the anti-FR sites and complain. Since the herd could stand some culling, I won't be heartbroken at all. :-)

70 posted on 05/02/2003 1:07:15 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks for the "heads-up", Jim, but in actuallity, I'll never even folow one of these links. It is not worth my time and trouble to find even more places to see the kind of drivel I can get at the "one-stop" nitwit meeting place: DUh - which I visit a couple times a month.

You simply keep up the good work you do in service to us all, and ignore those who are trying to discredit your service.
71 posted on 05/02/2003 1:09:12 AM PDT by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: Jim Robinson
Well Jim, when you start getting attacks like this you know you've made it! The fact that these scurillious little halfwits actually took the time to set up a whole website just to childishly "diss" FreeRepublic shows we've got 'em mighty disturbed. A frightened, confused, angry liberal is the closest thing to a good liberal there is.
72 posted on 05/02/2003 1:11:56 AM PDT by lib66
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To: AFPhys
Ah, but those " new " sites are just filled to over flowing, with all of the people we grew to hate, right here and are thrilled to pieces they are no longer here.That's an even better reason, for not going over there. :-)
73 posted on 05/02/2003 1:13:03 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jim Robinson
While we're on the subject :) Are there any plans in the future to add an option to the front page for 'all latest articles' so people can choose to see all the latest ones posted, or perhaps an option that you can see all the latest articles/posts for the groups you subscribe to?

I saw mention that the reason it was done the way it is is that too many posts were 'scrolling' by (or something of that nature) and it was limited to the news/activism section. I know that many people, myself included, would like to be able to have it either way (is it me, or has General Interest become the grave yard for articles? I could post a thread about bin laden getting captured there and not only would the mods not move it to news it would probably only get a post to it if mhking, et al, did a mass ping). :)

74 posted on 05/02/2003 1:14:04 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: Jim Robinson
What a bunch of losers over there. Kind of extravagant for an opus, isn't it?

The point these malcontents always miss is that this site is greatly supported by POSTERS, not pop-up garbage. If we don't like how things are run around here, we don't have to contribute. Or go to this site, for that matter.

Thanks for the island of sanity you've created for us, Jim.

75 posted on 05/02/2003 1:20:59 AM PDT by lorrainer (Oh, was I ranting? Sorry.....)
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To: Jim Robinson
That is one sad bunch. Many of the members have been run off or banned from other anti sites or their host have shut 'em down.

You are vindicated.

76 posted on 05/02/2003 1:26:39 AM PDT by swheats
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To: chnsmok
IMHO, the Democrats are the domestic enemy of the Constitution. The Democrats are the formal and openly declared party of abortion, homosexualism, feminism, Godlessness, liberalism, socialism, slavery, cowardice, confiscation and redistribution of wealth, gun-control, strangling regulation, burgeoning bureaucracy, institutionalized hatred of everything good about America, religion, family, honor, tradition, history, our national, state and individual sovereignty, our very Liberty itself, and everything else I hold dear.

Some say the Republican Party shares in the blame for our loss of Liberty and sovereignty, and I've even thought that way myself at times, but at this particular moment in our history, the Democrat Party is definitely and unquestionably the party of pure evil and hatred for all things America and there's no doubt about it. There is absolutely nothing in their party platform that I can support and not one single Democrat office holder or candidate who's worth supporting.

I will continue working as hard as I can to promote replacing as many Democrats as possible until we have a supermajority in both houses of Congress that will work with our Republican president and help him move his agenda and, more importantly, help him rebuild the judiciary and our system of justice. And then we can begin overturning some of the idiotic and outrageous liberal court decisions and precedents set by the corrupt mush-headed liberal activist judges currently infesting the bench, and then begin tearing down the failed liberal/socialist utopian welfare state and restoring our constitutional republic and our Liberty. Long live Liberty!

I have no idea what your goals are, but these are mine. And we are doing this at the grass-roots. This is not the Republican Party speaking. We are acting independently of the party and, God willing, we shall prevail!

77 posted on 05/02/2003 1:28:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (FReepers are the GReatest!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
And that's why I love Free Republic.
78 posted on 05/02/2003 1:33:24 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Itis?itis
In his own words. Check it out.
79 posted on 05/02/2003 1:37:53 AM PDT by swheats
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To: Jim Robinson
Everytime I debate a Lefty on another site and refer to an artical that I read here they always say something of the sourt, 'I an not going to bother reading anything on that right wing wacko site.'

We just blow them away hehe.

80 posted on 05/02/2003 1:43:45 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Jim Robinson; Mercuria
I have to say I am very disappointed in Mercuria. She still has an active account here, even though she has not posted anything for over a year, and she makes a point of going over to this Edgar Hall and attacking both you and this site.

Here is a little newsflash, Mercuria, honey: There are people who come and register to this site for the sole purpose of posting something they know is a troll. They get angry responses, which is what they want.

And you know what is funny about them? We can see them a mile away.

I am sorry if you think the mods should not have a sense of humor, or that it is at least acceptable to post something that is blatantly anti-semitic as that alleged Buchanan satire was. If you are expecting some kind of an apology from Jim or any of the mods, you will most likely die from old age waiting.

81 posted on 05/02/2003 2:17:09 AM PDT by Houmatt (Same as it ever was??)
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To: Jim Robinson
What a crappy site.
Loaded with pop-ups!

82 posted on 05/02/2003 2:45:30 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Jim Robinson
Shoot, I'd love nothing better than to have ALL of our Bush haters and assorted malcontents jump ship and join them over there.
Then just make a list up of just who you believe is a Bush hater or a malcontent and flag them to the thread and ask them to leave!
If you want me gone all you ever have to do is publicly say so...no mailroom/out of sight, out of mind stuff...and I'm outta here.
Nothing like telling it like it is "to one's face".
83 posted on 05/02/2003 4:57:19 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Jim Robinson; kristinn
Does one know if this newest site sprung up after Kristinn's apparent wonderful performance on Fox and Friends with the "1st Annual Garofalo Awards", at which time the DUmmies were blowing a gasket? : )
84 posted on 05/02/2003 5:05:32 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Jim Robinson
Truth is to liberals is like light is to cockroaches.
85 posted on 05/02/2003 5:09:46 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm holding out to join the freerepublicsucks sucks website.
86 posted on 05/02/2003 5:10:36 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: philman_36
If you want me gone all you ever have to do is publicly say so...no mailroom/out of sight, out of mind stuff...and I'm outta here. Nothing like telling it like it is "to one's face".

Oh for crying out loud...relax, not everyone is out to get you.

87 posted on 05/02/2003 5:11:32 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (All generalizations are false.)
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To: Jim Robinson
My, how far 'Darth Sidious' has fallen...
88 posted on 05/02/2003 5:12:05 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (All generalizations are false.)
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To: Jim Robinson

89 posted on 05/02/2003 5:14:35 AM PDT by Alouette (Why is it called "International Law" if only Israel and the United States are expected to keep it?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Never heard of "Free Republic Sucks" until you came along.

Without you, they're nothing?

90 posted on 05/02/2003 5:22:09 AM PDT by lonestar (Don't mess with Texans)
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To: Jim Robinson
It is, I believe, possible to categorize people into three types.

Type 1: people who create...they come up with new ideas, new ways of doing things.

Type 2: people who are too barren to create, but who copy an existing idea. Generally, the copy is inferior to the original.

Type 3: people who lack the ability even to copy. All they can do is try to tear down and try to deface what others have created.

The man who came up with FReeRepublic is of type 1, in my opinion; and all the other sites merely accentuate this truth. It is ironic that their efforts unintentionally proclaim that FR is the standard by which all others are measured.

91 posted on 05/02/2003 5:31:02 AM PDT by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Youd think they expend energy trying to convince us of something than to come out insulting us right off the bat...
92 posted on 05/02/2003 5:33:31 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: Jim Robinson
Alright, newbie! What are you doing posting this drivel in a vanity? You know the owner of this site doesn't like this garbage posted on his site. Get ready to be zotted, pal!

I'll just go ping JimRob . . . right . . . now . . .

. . .

. . .

. . . nevermind.

93 posted on 05/02/2003 5:34:24 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Jim Robinson
These people are truly obsessed.
94 posted on 05/02/2003 5:38:11 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Have you ever considered that hecklers at a debate may have a valid reason for their protest?

Yea, and homicide bombers have "a good point". Its destructive and isnt producing what they want. And it never will. Thus they are made rid of.

95 posted on 05/02/2003 5:38:50 AM PDT by smith288 (Thats right, Christianity is exclusive, you have to love animals to be in PETA, is that exclusive?)
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To: cardinal4
You would think "FreerepublicSucks.com" would help us see FR corruption, eh? HAH. FreerepublicWatch.com or something like that would sound more legitimate. They hate. That is all they know.
96 posted on 05/02/2003 5:41:06 AM PDT by smith288 (Thats right, Christianity is exclusive, you have to love animals to be in PETA, is that exclusive?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Just as Demoncrats hate Bush for being successful. Just as others in the world despise the United States for being successful. Just as success breeds contempt and jealousy from those who fail in their endeavors, so too will FreeRepublic be vilified and hated for the diverse and massive debate that fills these pages.

"Don't hate me 'cause I'm wonderful...."

97 posted on 05/02/2003 5:41:43 AM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: weegee
Well said. The perpetually malcontented demand the right to urinate in every punchbowl in sight. There are real Bush haters here whose only principle is being anti-Bush.

Oh, maybe they had a principle at one time, but in fact Bush committed the sin of making a decision that incensed them. Or failed to make a decision. Or something. And now, if they're not complaining about Bush, they're complaing about the fact that we don't want to listen to their complaining about Bush. That's more annoying than anything.

98 posted on 05/02/2003 5:48:10 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: lonestar
Right on!! In the words of sooooo many liberals, "If people hate you, that must mean you're doing something right."
99 posted on 05/02/2003 5:48:15 AM PDT by fml (freedom begins with W!)
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To: marajade
Ping.
100 posted on 05/02/2003 5:49:03 AM PDT by AmishDude
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