'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

[Aric2000]

Excuse me? a white supremist? Oh come on, get real.....

I am NOT prejudiced, I hate everybody equally.....;)

[goodseedhomeschool]

*variation of KINDS

[Rudder]

Of many who are appropriately called scientists, some are Christians, some non-denominational, some Jewish, etc. Where applicable and appropriate they must follow logical discourse in their profession--it's a requirement in scientific, refereed journals. The logic one follows in discourse concerning, oh, say for example, something about which science knows nothing (e.g., pre-Big Bang) is pretty much either up for grabs, or follows the dictates of one's faith.

[ALS]

"If there really were real scientific evidence for evolution (not counting micro which I think really should be labled variation of kids) we could not argue it. If any other belief system will hinder our children's faith, it is personal, which is why we take it so. Do you understand that? To lose your faith is devastating to anyone, and to have it done in a public school system by "those who should know science and have such an influence" is even more confusing."


perfect

[JesseShurun]

no you don't, you actually like some posters, but only those you think are more intelligent than you

[goodseedhomeschool]

I am glad you got through it ok and safe.

[RadioAstronomer]

It is very impolite to DEMAND someone’s religious conviction. That is a very private area and does not add to this conversation at all.

[f.Christian]

Too many childhood recreational chemical experiments gone bad ezplains a lot for me --- maybe a bad car accident ?

[JesseShurun]

go feed Moloch, he's wants a hamburglar

[JesseShurun]

yes thanks, I'll take 3

[RadioAstronomer]

go feed Moloch, he's wants a hamburglar

I havn't a clue what you are saying here.

[goodseedhomeschool]

It's from my heart.

[JesseShurun]

then stay out of my conversation

[RadioAstronomer]

Ah, the power of Google! :-)

A divinity worshipped by the idolatrous Israelites. The Hebrew pointing Molech does not represent the original pronunciation of the name, any more than the Greek vocalization Moloch found in the LXX and in the Acts (vii, 43). The primitive title of this god was very probably Melech, "king", the consonants of which came to be combined through derision with the vowels of the word Bosheth, "shame".

[RadioAstronomer]

then stay out of my conversation

Just pointing out how rude you are. This clinches it.

[JesseShurun]

no it doesn't, I've been known to be much worse

[Aric2000]

I see your point, but I don't believe it's valid, Evolution is science, NOTHING more.

It's not a religion, it's not a moral, it's not immoral, it just is.

If you wish to believe in creationism, that's great fine and dandy, you homeschool your kids, I think that's great too, but Evolution as science is NOT going to put your faith in question, at least it shouldn't.

God did what god did, and science just tries to figure it out.

You take the bible literally, therefore science is a threat, I do NOT take the bible literally, therefore Science is NOT a threat to my belief structure.

Humans are spiritual creatures, and god made us that way, therefore the bible is written to reach into that spiritual creature, each person sees the bible in a different way, the way it was meant to be seen by their spirit, soul, or whatever you want to call what lives on after this.

The bible is NOT and was NEVER meant to be taken literally, you have to look at what it feels to you, how does the story make you feel, does it help you PERSONALLY to interact with god, does it help you PERSONALLY to understand your relationship with god? Does it help you PERSONALLY to be a moral person, and why? Does it answer YOUR PERSONAL questions?

That is what it is for, to reach into your soul, to communicate directly to your spiritual core, NOT literally, because then it is reaching to your brain, and that is NOT where god is trying to get to or communicate with. He wants to talk to your very being, not the body that is NOT you, god wants to reach YOU, not your body, NOT your brain, but your SOUL, and that is NOT going to happen as long as you take the bible literally, because then you think on it too much, and don't let it communicate to your soul.

Science is NOT a threat, and NEVER has been.

Evolution is NOT a threat, and never has been.

[RadioAstronomer]

no it doesn't, I've been known to be much worse

Ok. I will drop this here.

[JesseShurun]

that would be wise

[JesseShurun]

Christianity's a threat, always has been