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"Liars for Christ" is a good one.

After watching the evolution vs. creationism debate played out many times over the years, it appears to me that the sole factor that tips the balance is the percentage of fundamentalists that are in on the decision-making process.

I don't think very many school board members are coming to the table without already having an opinion on the matter.

I haven't labored in the trenches as long as some on this thread have, but it's crystal clear to me that the vast majority of creationists are fundamentalist literalists who believe that the fossil record is due to one of the following:

1. Put here by the Devil to fool mankind; OR
2. Put here by God to test mankind; OR
3. Can be explained entirely by the Noachian flood.

Of evolutionists, I believe that the majority believe in theistic creation, that is, that God created the universe in a way that can be explained by scientific methods, and a minority are agnostics or atheists.

In the Red Zone, creationists outnumber evolutionists. In the Blue Zone, evolutionists outnumber creationists.

The "swing votes" are theistic evolutionists who are persuaded by the "arguments" of Intelligent Design, namely, that some things are too complicated to be explained by present day scientific knowledge and therefor MUST NOT have happened by chance and therefore are ipso facto evidence of Intelligent Design.

These tend to be the same type of people who subscribe to Biblical Archeology and are fascinated by attempts to prove that biblical events actually happened.

In other words, they want science AND the Bible to be compatible, and don't question the fallacious arguments advanced on behalf of Intelligent Design.

I believe that the majority believe in theistic creation, that is, that God created the universe in a way that can be explained by scientific methods...

I don't think the way (of creation) can be explained. I would say that a universe was created that has consistent natural laws, which we can study and approximate to varying degrees of precision.

>>>Of evolutionists, I believe that the majority believe in theistic creation, that is, that God created the universe in a way that can be explained by scientific methods, and a minority are agnostics or atheists.

....other words, they want science AND the Bible to be compatible, and don't question the fallacious arguments advanced on behalf of Intelligent Design.

BUMP!!!!