VANITY: The "Truth" about JimRob and Free Republic according to BADJOE

LibertyPost.org | 10/10/03 | BADJOE (Slightly revised by JimRob)

[Jim Robinson]

Dear Free Republic Friends,

My old friend and brother-in-arms BADJOE has promised to warm the cockles of our hearts by publishing an expose (the truth about JimRob and Free Republic according to Joe) on the 18th of this month, which represents the one year anniversary of the date he last posted to FreeRepublic.com and started up with LibertyPost.org.

So, as I believe that only the truth can set you free, and based upon the stratergery of pre-emptive strike, I have a confession to make (before BADJOE makes it public):

I have poisoned the well.

By my sly innuendos behind the scenes.

By my intellectual ineptitude.

By not trusting those that brung me to the dance to bring me home.

By my biting every hand that fed me.

By my arrogance that causes me to think I did it all by myself.

By my stubborness not because of principle, but because of my lack of ability to see what is transpiring.

Evidenced by:

One would think that with half again as many Freepers. with a recovering economy, It would take a great deal less time to raise the necessary funds.

By this time in the June 2002 effort with a goal of $70,000 we had raised $73,000. Not because of who did the fundraising, but because the sense of purpose, of family, of comaraderie, was still present.

BADJOE rang the warning bell, but none heard.

Conclusion:

It is a sad day.

For what was once a great hope, a means of bringing together those who are willing to pay dearly in blood, sweat, and money to save this country, we all love, has been reduced to an asterisk.

So sayeth BADJOE as he promises to publish all this and much more on the 18th. He's been feverishly working on this "project" for one full year. In addition to the "truth about JimRob" BADJOE intends to further betray our trust placed in him by revealing the names of our moderators. And who knows what else?

I can hardly wait.

Is it the 18th yet? Tick, tock.

[strela]

1000!

[Fledermaus]

Your comments again remind me of the old bulletin board days on Compuserve. We often discussed that the "rules" on the Democrat Forum were not well applied. We Republican Forum people (this was back in the day the actual parties "ran" these forums) would go to their forum and just post something like, "Clinton is a liar" and we'd get called every curse name in the book or get "banned".

But they could come to our site and say almost anything. Our Sysops just let them hang themselves with their ramblings and attacks. By 1998, many on the CIS forum were bring this site up and I finally came in and joined.

I even remember I'm like #1244 or #1294 to sign up. And I even found a post to others on Google once about me coming in. Some other poster from Compuserve "introduced" me let others know I was "okay"! lol

Of course, I wasn't a regular poster simply because I was still on a 26K modem with Windows 3.1 and using Compuserve Mosaic to use the internet. Not quite the optimum!

How fast things change. I think that computer had a whopping 10 MG harddrive and a whole 1 MG of memory! Boy, was I high tech at that time!

[strela]

Doggonit.

[leadpenny]

Did you stay up late or get up early to do that? :)

[Reb Raider]

"Yes..I want you to spell it out.Are you implying BadJoe is in cahoots with JR to start a fight so we'll donate?"

I don't think you can rule this out at all. This is just one more example of greedy conservatives taking money from poor people.

And I have something else to point out. Jim Robinson said he got on his knees,but did he get on his face?? I don't believe he is truly contrite.

And just one more thing, I have never been banned which shows how unfair this site really is. The moderators are basically saying that my posts are not exciting enough for review.

I am deeply saddened,feel this is hugh and series. You people better wake up! FR is trying to keep us from being a village!

[strela]

Did you stay up late or get up early to do that?

I'm multitasking - following this thread and running a video rendering program, converting some old Super 8 home movies to digital format. The rendering program is cranky and requires frequent tweaks to keep it running, so here I sit.

[MEG33]

It's a plot!LOL

[McGavin999]

Well, this has been a fun thread. What do you say we call it a night and all meet back here at oh....say....10 tomorrow?

[Fledermaus]

Pffft...I have Razorback football at 11:30 am CDT

[Jim Robinson]

And, by the way, this thread was not intended as a fundraiser. We have fundraiser threads in progress. I came across BadJoe's post today and simply decided to beat him to the punch. And I was trying to do it in a lighthearted and (I thought) humorous way. I really do like Joe and wish that he did not have this obsession against our moderators, however, there is absolutely no way I will ever bend to his demands and ultimatums.

[McGavin999]

Oh. Well, how about 9?

[Floratina]

The quality of discourse here is the same as it ever was, IMO.

[Ichneumon]

Hardly. As far as I can tell it was more like a good man who was extremely devoted to FR who has a policy and personality conflict with 2 moderators he believed over the top. That's all.

What you say may well be true, but I don't agree that "that's all" there is to it.

I've watched all this from the sidelines, but it seems to me that regardless of his undisputed good points, BadJoe's main problem appears to be that his personality type is the one best known as "Drama Queen". (Despite the name, there are plenty of male DQs.)

DQs thrive on the adrenaline of having a life filled with turmoil, and if it doesn't occur naturally, they'll manufacture some. For example, a disagreement isn't something to be resolved, it's an Epic Fight that allows them to play the hero riding a noble steed into the battle against evil that must be vanquished. Things that most people would take as minor slights and annoyances, soon forgotten, are to the DQ unforgivable insults and betrayals. They can't just be a cog in a larger process, they have to be one of the Star Attractions, without whom the entire enterprise would crash to the ground at any moment. Every problem is a crisis, every obstacle a conspiracy, every bit of good news an overwhelming victory. And they always must be at the center of attention, the star of the soap opera which is their life.

The poster child for DQs is Scarlett O'Hara.

Not content to be merely ordinary, DQs often do truly achieve big things and tenaciously follow lofty ideals. But they can be hell to try to get along with on a longterm basis. At first they can be greatly dedicated to the "best friend they ever had". But after a while, not only is the constant drama hard on the nerves if you're not of the same personality type, but it's all too easy for an ordinary bit of friction to be overdramatized into a Great Falling Out, then things can get ugly (at least for the baffled ex-friend suffering from a case of mental whiplash -- the DQ *thrives* on the agitation). And the cycle can frequently repeat, since "break up to make up" and "make up to break up" always keeps the drama going.

The poem "Drama Queen" was written with a female in mind, but it certainly captures the flavor.

[Fledermaus]

ROFL...I'll be sleeping!

[Jim Robinson]

Contrite about what? Perhaps I shouldn't have posted the "sin" and "forgiveness" bit, but it was intended as humor. And, yes, God will probably get me for that too.

Looks like my attempt at running a humorous thread fell pretty flat. LOL, better luck next time.

[leadpenny]

You're doing more than I am this morning. I haven't even made coffee yet.

Jim, fund-raising thread or not, FReepers need to reflect on how important this site is in their lives. If they do, on the beginning of this beautiful weekend, they will most certainly drop a dollar or two in the bucket.

[Jim Robinson]

And, double oops, I should've read the rest of your post before mouthing off. Sorry (seriesly, hugh misteak on my part).

[MEG33]

I had just joined when I met you in the Situation room.My son gave me an old computer with little memory left.I had to learn to type again so didn't post for a long time.I now have cable and more memory than I can imagine using.

Now if I would take the time to really learn how to use it(multiple windows?..HUH..How do you do that!)You all are old time internet users and long time FR members...I am a newbie(because I'm an oldie!)

[Jim Robinson]

What? I remember the good old days back in '98. No flamewars. No trolls. No disrupters. No chat. All serious talk about constitutional matters 24 hours per day. Why, we could all recite the Declaration and the Constitution backwards and forwards after the first year or so of posting to FR.

Howdy Floratina!

[Floratina]

Yeah, the "shower" is getting really old, gotta agree with you on that one.

[McGavin999]

What? I remember the good old days back in '98. No flamewars. No trolls. No disrupters. No chat.

Uh, what site was that Jim?

[MEG33]

Just perfect..Thanks for the post.

[lorrainer]

If I give LP a quarter or so, will they go out and buy themselves a life? From their FAQ:

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What is the "Biker Bar" category for, and why does it have a "warning" message at the top?

The "Biker Bar" category was initially established for Free Republic topics which attracted a crowd of people that were predominantly interested in discussing only Free Republic.

Later, because comments made there tended to be of high volume crowding out the comment listings, we began screening those comments from the "Latest Comments" page as it was deemed beneficial to the rest of the forum's topics (which we are most interested in promoting).

Later still, because other topics not directly related to FR were emerging there, we renamed it to "Biker Bar", and added the "Caution" message and a reminder of our disclaimer, and adopted a reduced set of rules for that section.

A small amount of content within the "Biker Bar" section can be very insulting and abrasive. Many of the people posting there are already familiar with each other from times and places long before this forum existed. Some have unresolved questions and issues related to past events and other organizations, and that area has been set aside for them to discuss their particular issues. Since those issues generally have a very narrow base of interested members, it is set apart from the rest of the forum so that those interested in it can visit it, and those that are not can easily ignore it.

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Yes, I can say it now. I am out of the closet. I am a JimRobBot. I am re-donating the same $$ I did last weekend. Keep up the good work!

[Jim Robinson]

LOL

[Jim Robinson]

Well, thank you very much lorrainer!

And here are the latest incoming donations:

$50 from Pennsylvania
$20 from Never Never Land
$20 from Washington

Thank you all very much!!

(and I think we're now about $13 shy of $30,000)

[Ichneumon]

, now are very much in their realm, posting happily with no restrictions on "LP".

Some people clearly prefer a "no restrictions" kind of site. Not me -- without exception I find the "total freedom" forums on the net to be overrun with yahoos (not to be confused with "Yahoo!"). It only takes a few immature twits with foul manners and/or empty heads and/or emotional problems to send the signal-to-noise ratio down into the cellar.

Three cheers for responsible moderation.

[MEG33]

It did tun out to be fun..for those of us that don't have to mind the store.Thank you Jim Robinson.This is THE best site.

[Jim Robinson]

And here's another:

$25 just in from Wisconsin!

Thank you Wisconsin!!

$30,000 and counting!! Woohoo!!

[lorrainer]

I agree with you. If I want to read the F-word that much, I can go to DirtycraticUnderwear, etc.

[Ichneumon]

You've got a problem. There is a widespread perception of bias in the Moderation at FR.

And yet, I'd bet decent sums of money that everyone would disagree about which way the "obvious" bias went.

For example, on the evolution-versus-creationism threads, it seems that the evolutionists perceive a moderator bias in favor of the creationists -- and the creationists perceive a moderator bias in favor of the evolutionists...

As Linda Ellerbee once wrote about a TV news segment she had done on a controversial issue, "I knew I had done a balanced job by the way I got an equal amount of hate mail from both sides."

[JerseyHighlander]

We never intentionally banned, suspended or nuked anyone for malicious or nefarious intent. 428 -WiMom-
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How bout just for 'fun'?

You know, since there is so much dirty laundry sired out already, I have to say that someone banned my brother on his first post on FR. When I tried to plea his case, the admin Moderaotr freepmailed me back, the equivalent of "tough luck, his post was racist."

It turned out to be the first article posted on FR about the Illegal Immigrant Rights Rally in DC, a topic that has had more than a few dozen articles posted about it since. My brother heard direct from the horse's mouth, a Commie recruiter on his campus, and posted the article with a big "heads up to what's down the road" warning to give the people his brother spends way to much time on the net talking politics with. He was banned in like 25 minutes. You really pissed him off, and set me back after months of trying to get him to think through politics in a clear manner. And I haven't really been able to get him to think about politics since. My final point, Someone banned him for fun.

[lorrainer]

*blushes* I think that was me....

[Ichneumon]

Hey, most of them have complained mightily about the way we run this joint.

From reading that long, histrionic LP thread (thanks, now I need a shower), it seems to me that the major source of their outrage is that anyone would be so foolish as to dare run this site differently from the way *they* think it should be run... (and that any of us "misguided" posters would be so blind as to prefer it here instead of over there.)

[MEG33]

Good morning,lorrainer!

[Floratina]

Aw, you remember me :) I think this place is the same cornucopia it ever was except it is even funnier. There is some top-notch comedy on them there threads. I forward links to my coworkers and they always open them because they know there is going to be some guffaw-inspiring material there.

[lorrainer]

Hi, MEG! Good to see you!

[Brian Allen]

<< Shouldn't this be posted to chat? ;) >>

<< Aren't there rules against bringing cross-forum flame wars to FR? >>

Is the Pope Polish?

Should the one-time radio entertainer, Mr Limbaugh, have called the late Kurt Cobain, on the day of his death, "Just another dead doper?"

[WALKS OFF RIGHT, SCRATCHING RIGHT SIDE OF HIS HEAD -- WONDERING JUST WHAT's RIGHT, ANYMORE]

Best ones -- Brian

[MonroeDNA]

$1018 from Minutegal!!!!!!!

WOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

[MEG33]

I loved Ichneumon's post about the Drama Queen!

[MEG33]

You both are the best!

[MonroeDNA]

Wow.

[MonroeDNA]

As the story unfolds, I am

(where's the TTiny Tom Daschle pic when you need it?)

Deeply Sadenned.

[Ichneumon]

[It is no different now than it was 2 years ago.]

It most certainly is different. Perhaps you should take a one month breather from FR and then come back to it. Some posters here have a huge emotional investment in FR, which isn't necessarily bad thing; but they appear to be incapable of accepting and/or evaluating objective criticism.

And it was thus 2 years ago.

I fail to see your point.

[MonroeDNA]

lol!

[lorrainer]

From the poem:

How on earth would you cope without me?

How would you know what was going on in town?

How would you know who slept with who?

Admit it, you need me around

Sure sounds like some of 'em!

[MonroeDNA]

Thank you for your thoughtless contributions. I think the admin mods do a fine job, even when it comes to my posts! lol!

[MonroeDNA]

you rock!

[MEG33]

I felt like I was venturing into an old folks home when I visited the Biker Bar.They are unable to have a life of their own..they live to gossip about what others have done or are doing.

[lorrainer]

Like washerwomen at the back fence, angry that they didn't get invited to the canasta party? (My Grandmother, rest her soul, would be so angry with me for saying that, LOL!)

[MEG33]

I think you have it!