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Posted on 07/11/2004 9:34:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

History: Fiction or Science? History: Fiction or Science?
by Anatoly T. Fomenko


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To: SunkenCiv
":') You're assuming my mind ain't already..."

Well. I've had suspicions at times, lol.

141 posted on 01/28/2007 4:48:08 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Plato Prehistorian Plato Prehistorian
by Mary Settegast


142 posted on 01/28/2007 5:18:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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To: Berosus
John Bimson one of the authors:

The Seventy Great Mysteries of Ancient Egypt The Seventy Great Mysteries of Ancient Egypt
edited by Bill Manley
Contributions by
Manfred Bietak, John J. Bimson,
Mark Collier, Aidan Dodson,
Elizabeth Goring, Dominic Montserrat,
Ludwig D. Morenz, Robert G. Morkot,
Paul Nicholson, David O'Connor,
and Jose-Ramon Perez-Accino
(Thames and Hudson page)


143 posted on 04/06/2007 7:16:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Molecular Clocks
by Arthur Robinson

from February 2001 topic A Scientist Finds Independence
Molecular Clocks Arthur Robinson
Google

144 posted on 04/20/2007 10:36:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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this emerged in a Google search for something else:

Dead Cosmonauts, Forever Adrift In The Icy Cold Depths Of Space?
(Fun for The Whole Family!)
Miscellaneous Miscellaneous Keywords: COMMIES IN SPAAAAACE!
Source: The “Lost Cosmonauts” Website
Posted on 06/23/2000 18:19:06 PDT by Jhoffa_
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39540c8a276f.htm


145 posted on 05/11/2007 9:50:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 11, 2007.)
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Your Birthdate: May 23
People wouldn't take you for a passionate person - and that's where they'd be wrong.
You can develop deep emotions quickly, and you're the type most likely to move in with someone after a few dates.

Number of True Loves You'll Have: 3

Number of Times You'll Have Your Heart Broken: 1

You are most compatible with people born on the 5th, 14th, and 23rd of the month.
What Does Your Birth Date Mean For Your Love Life?

146 posted on 07/03/2007 11:48:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated July 3, 2007.)
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Last week I found a previously forgotten gift card for Waldenbooks, almost $15 worth, got this:

The Politically Incorrect Guide to Science The Politically Incorrect
Guide to Science

by Tom Bethell

Best Buy RewardZone had sent me a $5 off coupon which expires on the 21st. Up early for the change -- and out of the house, who'd have guessed? -- I wandered the east side of town for a while and came up with this title, $5 off:

The History Channel Presents Engineering an Empire The History Channel Presents
Engineering an Empire

narrated by Peter Weller

I've never seen any of these, don't get cable or satellite, and actually seldom watch broadcast TV (I get zero stations here for some reason). This looks like its up my alley, and I've got to pick up new documentaries every once in a while just to keep my mind sharp and my debt high. Motivates me to go to work every day. ;') After I watch this a few times I plan to review it.

I've got a gift certificate for a local shop, that will probably be a CD, or more than one if I get something used.
147 posted on 07/12/2007 10:21:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, July 12, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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B 29 (When) Did it Happen?
by John Bimson
In The Lost Testament, Rohl raises the date for the end of the Late Bronze Age to c. 886 BC (p. 452), which may seem to resolve the Samaria problem. However, while it would (at a pinch) explain Samaria's Iron Age I pottery, it is inconsistent with Rohl's own Egyptian dates. There is good evidence for placing the Late Bronze-Iron Age transition in the reign of Ramesses III, for whom Rohl gives dates of 863-832 BC (Lost Testament, p. 454). In Rohl's revised Egyptian chronology, the Late Bronze Age should therefore end around 850 BC. This is not early enough to solve the Samaria problem. Rohl has argued (in personal communications) that some Iron Age I pottery forms may have come into use before the end of the Late Bronze Age. This is reasonable, and could explain the Iron Age I pottery at Samaria. However, it does not explain why Late Bronze Age forms are absent there... Both James et al. and Rohl argue that the 21st and 22nd Dynasties should be overlapped because: (i) there is an unexplained gap in the burials of Apis bulls (an important cult at Memphis) from the end of the 20th Dynasty until the early 22nd Dynasty; (ii) a cache of mummies whose burial is dated to the reign of Siamun, penultimate king of the 21st Dynasty, included the mummy of an official who died early in the following (22nd) Dynasty; (iii) at Tanis the tomb of Osorkon II (22nd Dynasty) appears to have been built before that of Psussenes I (21st Dynasty)... As noted in chapter 4, the Assyrian practice of keeping eponym lists means that Assyrian chronology is accurate to within a year back to 911 BC. Actually Assyriologists would say it has been reconstructed with reasonable accuracy back to at least 1400 BC. Although eponym lists are fragmentary before 911 BC, the Assyrian King List (extant in five copies) is held to provide a reliable framework from the 8th century BC back to the middle of the second millennium.
Bimson is now more at home with James et al -- but James et al have made a blanket condemnation of the Assyrian king lists, claiming that three or more dynastic lists from a similar number of independent Assyrian states existing in parallel have been blended to create the unified list. This would be analogous to the Babylonian king lists, which definitely do show a series of dynasties where a number of parallel city-state dynasties are now known to have existed.
148 posted on 08/27/2007 12:34:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, August 26, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Fred Nerks
Roger Henry, author of "The Synchronized History" at message 58, passed away a few years ago, as I discovered to my dismay some months ago.

Here's a book which has a similar origin. I didn't check this topic, maybe I've posted a link to this before. Sweeney has a view that 9/11 was plotted by the gubmint, and that's a view that makes it difficult to take this book entirely seriously.

Empire of Thebes Or Ages In Chaos Revisited: Ages in Alignment Empire of Thebes
Or Ages In Chaos Revisited:
Ages in Alignment

by Emmet Sweeney

Cami McGraw, who runs the New Chronology forum for the discussion of David Rohl and other alt-chrons, had an announcement about this book:

Chronology at the Crossroads: The Late Bronze Age in Western Asia Chronology at the Crossroads:
The Late Bronze Age
in Western Asia

by Bernard Newgrosh
Published: 18 October 2007
710 pages
£29.99
ISBN: 978-1906221-621

His bio mentions he's an MD, and got interested in the topic after attending the 1979 conference in Britain which resulted in the Glasgow Chronology, from which both Peter James et al, and David Rohl sprang. Newgrosh is a frequent contributor to the NC forum.
The Libyans in Egypt:
Resolving the Third Intermediate Period

by Martin Sieff
As Dirkzwager has also noted, Bocchoris, the "one man dynasty" -- the Twenty-Fourth, and Putibisti of Tanis in the Twenty-Third Dynasty, also appear in Assur-bani-pal's account of the 667 B.C. rising against him. This correlation gives us a peg on which to hang the Twenty-Third and Twenty-Fourth Dynasties. Again, let us note the contrast with Clapham, who identifies Bocchoris with Arzu and places him at 717 B.C. In my scheme Bocchoris belongs 40 years later, and Arzu as Uzziah over 50 years before Clapham's date. This model also invalidates Donovan Courville's wherein the Twenty-Second Dynasty was Assyrian in origin, and established by Assur-bani-pal. Far from the last great Assyrian tyrant founding the Twenty-Second Dynasty, on this model he ended it. My model also invalidates the original Glasgow scheme of things for the Third Intermediate Period, whereby the Twenty-Second Dynasty was placed c.620-400 B.C., but there should be at least no argument over that, as the Glasgow school leaders themselves, recognizing the impossibility of this solution, have retreated to their James-Rohl model, which gives up Velikovsky's Hatshepsut-Solomon, Thutmose III-Shishak, and El Amarna-House of Ahab correlations entirely. On my model all these correlations still hold. I will further remark here that the Twenty-First Dynasty may be seen to have continued down alongside the Twenty-Sixth Saite Dynasty. Thus, in answer to Korbach there is no difficulty in finding references to Twenty-Second, Twenty-Third, and Twenty-Fourth Dynasty rulers in the Serapeum, before the reign of Psamteq I. Obviously, Amyrtaeus (463-454) and Nef'awi-rudj (399-393) belong to a later date, and have no connection with the Twenty-First Dynasty. It is not surprising therefore to find no references to them in the activities of Si-Amon, at the end of the Twenty-First Dynasty... I follow Dirkzwager's absolute dates for the Twenty-Second Dynasty, 780-660 B.C. (approximately), but not his biblical and Nineteenth-Twentieth Dynasty chronologies relative to it. The Third Intermediate models of Velikovsky, Glasgow, Courville, James-Rohl, and Clapham are all rejected.
Another Sweeney book which, according to a reader review: "Joseph (of the many-coloured coat) was the same person as Imhotep". Huh?

The Genesis of Israel & Egypt: An Enquiry into the Origins of Egyptian & Hebrew History The Genesis of Israel & Egypt:
An Enquiry into the Origins
of Egyptian & Hebrew History

by Emmet Sweeney

V on J:
Joseph and Potiphar
by Immanuel Velikovsky
[R]ealizing that the sojourn of the Israelites in Egypt took place not during the New Kingdom but during the preceding Middle Kingdom, in order to find out whether the personality of Joseph or the patron of the early stage of his career, Potiphar, is referred to in the historical documents, we have to look into those of the Middle Kingdom. The task appears simple. According to the Book of Genesis Potiphar was "an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard." In the register of the private names to the Ancient Records of Egypt by James Breasted, we find the name Ptahwer. Ptahwer was at the service of the Pharaoh Amenemhet III of the Twelfth Dynasty of the Middle Kingdom. According to an inscription of Ptahwer at Sarbut el-Khadem in Sinai dated in the forty-fifth year of Amenemhet III, his office was that of "master of the double cabinet, chief of the treasury." ...Since there is only one Ptahwer in the historical documents, and since he lived in the time when we expect to find him, we are probably not wrong in identifying the biblical Potiphar with the historical Ptahwer... In the days of Amenemhet III there occurred in Egypt a famine enduring nine long years... Thus it seems that the Pharaoh in whose days was the seven years’ famine was the successor of the Pharaoh in whose days began the rise of Joseph’s career (if Yatu is Joseph). Potiphar, who lived under Amenemhet III, probably lived also under his successor. The inscription which deals with Ptahwer mentions a man whose name is transliterated by Breasted as Y-t-w. Among the monuments of Amenemhet III’s reign is one of the Storekeeper who was honored together with two other persons... If we remember that according to the Scriptural narrative Joseph was appointed storekeeper of the State (Gen. 41:40-41) in anticipation of the seven lean years, with the powers of a chief Minister of State or Vice-King, we may suspect in Yatu the Biblical Joseph. In the Scriptures it is said that his name was changed by Pharaoh to Zaphnath-paaneah, but still his original name may have been in use until he became next to the Pharaoh in importance.
Rohl (in "Pharaohs and Kings") follows Kenneth Kitchen that Zaphnath-paaneah translates as "he who is called Pa'aneah", and that Pa'aneah was really Ipiankhu, a name common in the Middle Kingdom but "'not any later.'" His Biblical wife Asenath was named "Ius-en-at ('she belongs to you')". [p 350]
149 posted on 03/24/2008 9:07:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: Berosus

sorry, I meant to ping you as well. [blush]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1169550/posts?page=149#149


150 posted on 03/24/2008 9:09:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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I read this, and highly recommend it. A second title, which I plan to resume reading this week (the library due date approaches) is "Shakespeare the Thinker" and is perhaps a bit dry. It has the interesting fact that, when Shakespeare was a boy, a slightly older girl with the last name Hamlett slipped into the Avon river and drowned. And around that same time a possibly unrelated John Shakespeare hanged himself in a nearby, uh, hamlet. Suck on that, Oxfordians and Baconians! ;')
Oxford Dictionary of National Biography
Last night I found a reference to the online version of the above while reading the early pages of the title below. Author Wells mentioned in particular the free content.

Shakespeare and Co.: Christopher Marlowe, Thomas Dekker, Ben Jonson, Thomas Middleton, John Fletcher and the Other Players in His Story Shakespeare and Co.:
Christopher Marlowe,
Thomas Dekker,
Ben Jonson,
Thomas Middleton,
John Fletcher and the
Other Players in His Story

by Stanley Wells


151 posted on 03/24/2008 9:19:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: blam
This is a nice intro to India; I've got to the midpoint (it's due back at the library in a couple of days, or maybe it's tomorrow) where the Yueh-chi / Tocharians / Kushans are discussed for a while.
...Kapisa, the summer capital of the Kushans. Here, in 1937, French archaeologists found the greatest single hoard of artistic treasures ever discoverd in Afghanistan: a wonderfully eclectic mixture of Silk Route artefacts... including a unique glass painting of one of the Wonders of the World, the Pharos of Alexandria. [p 119]
India India
Michael Wood

BBC DVD


152 posted on 03/26/2008 9:49:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

I’ve finishing up a book on the Phoenicians (about to get in the tub and read much if not all of what is left to go). Got the following tonight, all from the “recent arrivals” shelves:

1434:
The Year a Magnificent Chinese Fleet Sailed to Italy and Ignited the Renaissance
by Gavin Menzies

Lost Battles:
Reconstructing the Great Clashes of the Ancient World
by Philip Sabin

Rome and Environs:
An Archaeological Guide
by Filipo Coarelli

Assassin’s Accomplice:
Mary Surratt and the Plot to Kill Abraham Lincoln
by Kate Clifford Larson

Mistress of the Vatican:
The True Story of Olimpia Maidalchini, The Secret Female Pope
by Eleanor Hermon


153 posted on 01/06/2009 4:47:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Have you read any Gavin Menzies?


154 posted on 01/06/2009 4:53:54 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL, see?

That’s why you’re so great, Civ.

Henry Ford once said (paraphrasing), I don’t need to know everything, I just need to know who to go to find out.

Thanks.

Enjoy the books.


155 posted on 01/06/2009 4:57:02 PM PST by fanfan (Update on Constitutional Crisis in Canada.....Click user name)
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To: SunkenCiv

1434:
The Year a Magnificent Chinese Fleet Sailed to Italy and Ignited the Renaissance
by Gavin Menzies
***I found the hype to this book fascinating. Let me know how you like it.

And one thing I remember reading about the Phoenicians was a National Geographic article back in the 1970’s. They were real strong seafarers. I think one of the things I recall from that (other than we get our alphabet from them) is that they would prepare for long sea journeys by drinking sea water for several days before embarking. But memory gets fuzzy over the years, so I may have heard that tidbit elsewhere.

Aug 1974 - 75 Matthews, Samuel W. “The Phoenicians Sea Lords of Antiquity,” Washington, DC: National Geographic, August 1974, p. 165. Also: LL Orlin. Tyre. Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia.
From One God One Message - Related web pagesbooks.google.com/books?id=xyzbUCk7UYoC&pg=PA364

Aug 1974 - Notice what SW Matthews, writing in National Geographic, Aug. 1974, p. 165, stated: “...today the Phoenicians’ Tyre lies buried beneath these paving stones and columns of a Roman metropolis. Only a small dig reaches down to the lost world of the Phoenicians.”Both Roman Tyre and modern Sur are located on top of the site of the biblical Tyre. Notice what SW Matthews, writing in National Geographic, Aug. 1974, p. 165, stated: “...today the Phoenicians’ Tyre lies buried beneath these paving stones and columns of a Roman metropolis. Only a small dig reaches down to the lost world of the Phoenicians.” And where do the Roman ruins lie? They lie under the city of Sur and to the south of it. It appears that many of Ezekiel’s statements ... Show more Show less
From Herbert Armstrong “Disproves” the Bible - Related web pageswww.hwarmstrong.com/ar/Disproves.html

Aug 1974 - Matthews, Samuel W. “The Phoenicians, Sea Lords Of Antiquity,” National Geographic Magazine, August 1974.
From Dudley’s Reading List - Related web pageswww.joppaglass.com/videos/research.html

Aug 1974 - National Geographic, 1974 August. Samuel W. Mathews, Winfield Parks and Robert C. Magis. The Phoenicians, Sea Lords of Antiquityl>l.
From I Found Atlantis - Related web pagesbooks.google.com/books?id=SlPKtFjckKsC&pg=RA1-PA430

Aug 1974 - Elissa Rudolph sends this wonderful History of Elissa, taken from the August 1974 National Geographic—The Phoenicians, Sea Lords of Antiquity... In the harbor of ancient Tyre in southern Lebanon, the fisherman chant “El—eee—sa, El—eee—sa,” as they haul in their nets...
From Elissa from Canaanites before Queen of Carthage - Related web pageselissa.org/history1.shtml


156 posted on 01/06/2009 5:02:29 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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1434: The Year a Magnificent Chinese Fleet Sailed to Italy and Ignited the Renaissance 1434:
The Year a Magnificent Chinese Fleet
Sailed to Italy and
Ignited the Renaissance

by Gavin Menzies
paperback
CD audiobook


157 posted on 01/06/2009 5:09:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009)
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Lost Battles: Reconstructing the Great Clashes of the Ancient World Lost Battles:
Reconstructing the Great Clashes
of the Ancient World

by Philip Sabin


158 posted on 01/06/2009 5:09:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009)
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Rome and Environs: An Archaeological Guide Rome and Environs: An Archaeological Guide
by Filipo Coarelli
paperback


159 posted on 01/06/2009 5:09:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009)
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Assassin's Accomplice: Mary Surratt and the Plot to Kill Abraham Lincoln Assassin's Accomplice: Mary Surratt
and the Plot to Kill Abraham Lincoln

by Kate Clifford Larson


160 posted on 01/06/2009 5:09:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009)
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