To: AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; chilepepper; Eastbound; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; medved; Swordmaker; ...
I've posted my Amazon review of this title (see the "in reply to" link here as well) but it isn't up yet (about 10:30 pm Sunday).
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posted on 08/15/2004 7:39:49 PM PDT
(Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
To: Fred Nerks
Roger Henry, author of "The Synchronized History" at message 58, passed away a few years ago, as I discovered to my dismay some months ago.
Here's a book which has a similar origin. I didn't check this topic, maybe I've posted a link to this before. Sweeney has a view that 9/11 was plotted by the gubmint, and that's a view that makes it difficult to take this book entirely seriously.
Cami McGraw, who runs the New Chronology forum for the discussion of David Rohl and other alt-chrons, had an announcement about this book:
His bio mentions he's an MD, and got interested in the topic after attending the 1979 conference in Britain which resulted in the Glasgow Chronology, from which both Peter James et al, and David Rohl sprang. Newgrosh is a frequent contributor to the NC forum.
The Libyans in Egypt:As Dirkzwager has also noted, Bocchoris, the "one man dynasty" -- the Twenty-Fourth, and Putibisti of Tanis in the Twenty-Third Dynasty, also appear in Assur-bani-pal's account of the 667 B.C. rising against him. This correlation gives us a peg on which to hang the Twenty-Third and Twenty-Fourth Dynasties. Again, let us note the contrast with Clapham, who identifies Bocchoris with Arzu and places him at 717 B.C. In my scheme Bocchoris belongs 40 years later, and Arzu as Uzziah over 50 years before Clapham's date. This model also invalidates Donovan Courville's wherein the Twenty-Second Dynasty was Assyrian in origin, and established by Assur-bani-pal. Far from the last great Assyrian tyrant founding the Twenty-Second Dynasty, on this model he ended it. My model also invalidates the original Glasgow scheme of things for the Third Intermediate Period, whereby the Twenty-Second Dynasty was placed c.620-400 B.C., but there should be at least no argument over that, as the Glasgow school leaders themselves, recognizing the impossibility of this solution, have retreated to their James-Rohl model, which gives up Velikovsky's Hatshepsut-Solomon, Thutmose III-Shishak, and El Amarna-House of Ahab correlations entirely. On my model all these correlations still hold. I will further remark here that the Twenty-First Dynasty may be seen to have continued down alongside the Twenty-Sixth Saite Dynasty. Thus, in answer to Korbach there is no difficulty in finding references to Twenty-Second, Twenty-Third, and Twenty-Fourth Dynasty rulers in the Serapeum, before the reign of Psamteq I. Obviously, Amyrtaeus (463-454) and Nef'awi-rudj (399-393) belong to a later date, and have no connection with the Twenty-First Dynasty. It is not surprising therefore to find no references to them in the activities of Si-Amon, at the end of the Twenty-First Dynasty... I follow Dirkzwager's absolute dates for the Twenty-Second Dynasty, 780-660 B.C. (approximately), but not his biblical and Nineteenth-Twentieth Dynasty chronologies relative to it. The Third Intermediate models of Velikovsky, Glasgow, Courville, James-Rohl, and Clapham are all rejected.
Resolving the Third Intermediate Period
by Martin Sieff
Another Sweeney book which, according to a reader review: "Joseph (of the many-coloured coat) was the same person as Imhotep". Huh?
V on J:
Joseph and Potiphar[R]ealizing that the sojourn of the Israelites in Egypt took place not during the New Kingdom but during the preceding Middle Kingdom, in order to find out whether the personality of Joseph or the patron of the early stage of his career, Potiphar, is referred to in the historical documents, we have to look into those of the Middle Kingdom. The task appears simple. According to the Book of Genesis Potiphar was "an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard." In the register of the private names to the Ancient Records of Egypt by James Breasted, we find the name Ptahwer. Ptahwer was at the service of the Pharaoh Amenemhet III of the Twelfth Dynasty of the Middle Kingdom. According to an inscription of Ptahwer at Sarbut el-Khadem in Sinai dated in the forty-fifth year of Amenemhet III, his office was that of "master of the double cabinet, chief of the treasury." ...Since there is only one Ptahwer in the historical documents, and since he lived in the time when we expect to find him, we are probably not wrong in identifying the biblical Potiphar with the historical Ptahwer... In the days of Amenemhet III there occurred in Egypt a famine enduring nine long years... Thus it seems that the Pharaoh in whose days was the seven yearsâ famine was the successor of the Pharaoh in whose days began the rise of Josephâs career (if Yatu is Joseph). Potiphar, who lived under Amenemhet III, probably lived also under his successor. The inscription which deals with Ptahwer mentions a man whose name is transliterated by Breasted as Y-t-w. Among the monuments of Amenemhet IIIâs reign is one of the Storekeeper who was honored together with two other persons... If we remember that according to the Scriptural narrative Joseph was appointed storekeeper of the State (Gen. 41:40-41) in anticipation of the seven lean years, with the powers of a chief Minister of State or Vice-King, we may suspect in Yatu the Biblical Joseph. In the Scriptures it is said that his name was changed by Pharaoh to Zaphnath-paaneah, but still his original name may have been in use until he became next to the Pharaoh in importance.
by Immanuel Velikovsky
Rohl (in "Pharaohs and Kings") follows Kenneth Kitchen that Zaphnath-paaneah translates as "he who is called Pa'aneah", and that Pa'aneah was really Ipiankhu, a name common in the Middle Kingdom but "'not any later.'" His Biblical wife Asenath was named "Ius-en-at ('she belongs to you')". [p 350]
posted on 03/24/2008 9:07:47 PM PDT
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