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Kerry's Banned Book available ^

Posted on 09/13/2004 9:32:35 AM PDT by charlezmartel

Hi to all- I've been trying to get this file out there on P2P's and websites, but am having trouble- it's up for a few hours, don't know how much bandwidth- let's get this out there and spread the word- any and all help much appreciated- I've been trying to post this on anonymous webhosters ( Kerry shut down the Yahoo site) and am having trouble getting it to link properly- wil continure until successful. Anyone else wants to help, jump in- the water's warm! If we get this out the story of the Internet distribution twist will become the story! btw- anyone here remember when got shut down due to a lawsuit threat from the scientology folks? My, how times change....Go to for Kerry's Banned Book "The New Soldier" I know the site's ugly and awkward- but so is Kerry, after all, and unlike him, the site works, and for a good cause, I might add. Dieu et Mon Droit CharlezMartel

KEYWORDS: bannedbook; johnkerry; thenewsoldier

1 posted on 09/13/2004 9:32:38 AM PDT by charlezmartel
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To: charlezmartel

Well, the people offering the Kerry book are actually in
violation of Kerry's copyright, but ...

a. Kerry's attempts to stamp out each new server is
merely focusing more attention on the issue, and
expending expensive lawyer resources.

b. The actual PDFs being pirated are reportedly
relatively small, which means that sharing them
via email, or posting them to binary Netnews
groups is practical.

This can't be stopped, only exacerbated.

Kerry might as well put the book back in print and
make a few bucks.

2 posted on 09/13/2004 9:40:55 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: Boundless
Yes, most of the versions going around are. This one's 16.7 megs, it's got virtually the complete book (missing a few pictures) I got this from the freekerrybook site ( I can't remember the man's name- truly a great American- who first posted it) before Kerry's lawyers threatened Yahoo. He tried to use the "Fair Use Doctrine" but that won't cut if for a complete book. But we live in a world where a Rebublican's divorce records, sealed by the court, are opened by the media to discredit hurt and embarrass him, his ex-wife (who wanted it kept sealed) and their young son. ( Jim Ryan- The Chicago Senate Race Story). If the courts can see fit to write new laws or interpret old ones willy-nilly, well then, why can't I? The book's been out of print for 33 years, and he's not making anything off it, so who is being harmed by its' re-issue, so to speak? Versus the publics right, nay, need to know about the man who would be emperor.
3 posted on 09/13/2004 10:02:40 AM PDT by charlezmartel
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To: charlezmartel; Admin Moderator

Threads openly advocating copyright infringement make FR look bad. Even if it is for a good cause.

4 posted on 09/13/2004 10:25:23 AM PDT by jtminton (<><)
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To: jtminton

I would argue (perhaps unsuccessfully) that the entire content of the book is fair use for historical research pertinent to the campaign, although it would still be unpermitted to print and sell copies. The fact that the book is definitively out of print and not being marketed suggests that damages would be nil.

Copyright law is to protect the rights of authors to profit from their work, not to supress historical information.

Those who give away the pdfs are probably on more solid ground than are the eBay sellers.

5 posted on 09/13/2004 11:45:55 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba

I see your point. I guess I was thinking more about potential future legal headache's for FR and JimRob from a very disgruntled (soon-to-be-)former presidential candidate and his minions. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on legally, but why encourage them?

6 posted on 09/13/2004 11:49:46 AM PDT by jtminton (<><)
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To: Boundless
"Well, the people offering the Kerry book are actually in violation of Kerry's copyright, but ... "

True dat, as the kids say these days, but what's Kerry gonna do, sue and draw increased media attention to the book in the process?

7 posted on 09/13/2004 11:52:19 AM PDT by LincolnLover
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To: jtminton
Hello again- I have "The New Soldier" by John Kerry uploaded on bittorrent- for those who use this, go to, look for miscellaneous, then books. It should be up in half an hour or so. If you know how this works, you know what this means. Effectively, there could be thousands of copies floating around in hours, millions in days (theoretically). Please "cross-pollinate" to other P2P's. As far as copyright infringement goes, the point of copyright law is to protect an author's right to profit from his work. An out of print (for 33 years) book is obviously no longer generating profits for Kerry, or for VVAW, to whom I believe he donated profits to (if they even still exist as a legal entity- it might be legal to reprint the book(!)) Anyway- bottom line- we live in a country where a judge sees fit to released to public scrutiny the sealed divorce records of a Republican running for the Illinois Senate, over the objections of him, his wife, and their childs' best interests. This is done purely to embarrass a Republican and to help his Democratic opponent. Judges routinely flaunt the law when it benefits their personal political viewpoints- yet expect the rest of us to "respect the law" instead of fighting back. I disagree- what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Do I feel bad about violating a copyright? What do you think? If more copyrights had been violated in the 1930's with Mein Kampf or in the 70's with that collection of inanities written by the Ayatollah Khomeini, perhaps we now would not be in a war for the survival of Western Civilizations. In the words of Mark Twain: " The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them". The liberal left considers Kerry a genius and Bush an idiot. So-why shouldn't we help spread some of his genius insights around?
8 posted on 09/13/2004 12:36:16 PM PDT by charlezmartel
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