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Economics 101
Bridegroom Press ^ | Steve Kellmeyer

Posted on 11/26/2004 10:24:02 AM PST by skellmeyer

Killing your customer is generally not good for business. It is amazing how many people don’t understand this.

Take, for instance, the French. The November 24th issue of Medical News Today reports on French abortion advocates who argue that French women encounter many obstacles when seeking an abortion. Abortion units have closed in 40% of private clinics in Paris for financial reasons and the number of doctors willing to do abortions is decreasing. According to certain lights, this is a Bad Thing. What Medical News Today failed to point out was the obvious: France has a total fertility rate of 1.9. Nations require a TFR of 2.1 just to keep from depopulating itself through natural death. It apparently has not occurred to them that this may have some small bearing on the availability of abortion.

It is, perhaps, picayune to point out niggling details, but medical experts agree it is extremely difficult to abort a fetus that has never been conceived. Given that the French are barely conceiving any children at all, it is hardly surprising to discover that the demand for abortion services is not what it once was.

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1 posted on 11/26/2004 10:24:02 AM PST by skellmeyer
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To: skellmeyer

interesting....


2 posted on 11/26/2004 10:26:17 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: skellmeyer

So, you're saying that we're running out of French? And this is bad because.....


3 posted on 11/26/2004 10:28:44 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: skellmeyer

"Killing your customer is generally not good for business. It is amazing how many people don’t understand this."

No quite so catastrophic as killing, but also counter productive are insulting them, brow-beating them, annoying them. Yes, it truly is amazing how much the French, the MSM and the Dem party have in common.


4 posted on 11/26/2004 10:34:06 AM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: skellmeyer

An excellent and concise demonstration of the link between socialism and legal abortion! Good work! Thanks for posting this!


5 posted on 11/26/2004 10:38:24 AM PST by Melito (At Falkirk and at Prestonpans, supported by all hielan' clans, he broke the Hanoverian bands.)
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To: skellmeyer

I would guess that there are more Dem abortions then Rep. Abortions.

Wouldn’t this equate to LESS Dem. voters as we go along?

The Dem.s are aborting their voter base.


6 posted on 11/26/2004 10:49:38 AM PST by Not a 60s Hippy
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To: anniegetyourgun
So, you're saying that we're running out of French? And this is bad because..... France has nuclear weapons and will soon be Islamic.
7 posted on 11/26/2004 10:55:15 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: skellmeyer
It is, perhaps, picayune to point out niggling details...

Oh, oh, he said the N word!

8 posted on 11/26/2004 11:00:23 AM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Melito
An excellent and concise demonstration of the link between socialism and legal abortion! Good work! Thanks for posting this!

If you like this, you might also like some of the products on the Bridegroom Press site, like my discussion of the natural law to a teen audience (BabyTalk), the treatment of the Theology of the Body (Sex and the Sacred City) or the discussion in which I demolish ten pro-abort arguments from the perspective of an atheist (I Was A Pro-Life Atheist). http://bridegroompress.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=57

9 posted on 11/26/2004 11:00:31 AM PST by skellmeyer
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To: anniegetyourgun
So, you're saying that we're running out of French? And this is bad because.....

No, in general, this is not a bad thing, but the problem we'll face is that French Muslims are multiplying like rabbits... not a good thing for the French, or us.

If the French are a pain in the posterior now, imagine what it'll be like when their increasing Muslim minority makes them act even crazier.

10 posted on 11/26/2004 11:16:40 AM PST by doc11355
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To: anniegetyourgun

That was the first thought in my head, too!


11 posted on 11/26/2004 11:16:55 AM PST by RockinRight (Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
running out of French? And this is bad because...

because they are being replaced by Moslem North Africans.

12 posted on 11/26/2004 11:30:55 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: Not a 60s Hippy
The Dem.s are aborting their voter base.

I actually saw a study done on this once and that was the conclusion. Of course there are certain assumptions built into the study, % of children who vote in lock step with their parents, that a certain % of a certain race votes democratic, etc...

Ironically, if it wasn't for abortion, we would be living under a socialist regime. Before I get flamed, I am not condoning abortion, merely pointing out the irony.

13 posted on 11/26/2004 11:32:28 AM PST by MattinNJ (Only Arnold would have the stones to say Nixon was the reason he was a Republican.)
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To: skellmeyer
Good article.

Clearly, capitalists with a long-term view of wealth accumulation like neither contraception nor abortion.

How do you explain Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?

14 posted on 11/26/2004 1:45:31 PM PST by Tax-chick (The whole world has gone crazy. Their beebers are stuned and there's no turning back.)
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To: doc11355; arthurus; Carry_Okie

Yes, I realize that - but then we'll know our enemy by their ONE face - rather than the two-faced ninnies we now deal with over there.


15 posted on 11/26/2004 4:25:27 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Tax-chick
How do you explain Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?

Buffett taught Gates how to think on these issues, Gates is just a follower. So the real question is Buffett.

The answer is that Buffett believes Paul Ehrlich and company. That is, he honestly thinks the world is being overpopulated, that resource acquisition is a zero-sum game in which someone always loses. Though he makes money like a capitalist, he thinks like a socialist.

He's not that unusual. Armand Hammer was a socialist who accumulated wealth like a capitalist in the last century. George Soros has done the same thing. It just goes to show Orwell's line, "Making a lot of money is easy, if all you're interested in is making a lot of money."

16 posted on 11/26/2004 7:15:28 PM PST by skellmeyer
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To: Tax-chick

"Clearly, capitalists with a long-term view of wealth accumulation like neither contraception nor abortion."

"How do you explain Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?"



They don't like the competition!!


17 posted on 11/26/2004 8:59:35 PM PST by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: Tax-chick

"Clearly, capitalists with a long-term view of wealth accumulation like neither contraception nor abortion."

"How do you explain Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?"



They don't like the competition!!


18 posted on 11/26/2004 9:03:53 PM PST by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: skellmeyer
he honestly thinks the world is being overpopulated, that resource acquisition is a zero-sum game in which someone always loses

But from an economic standpoint, that's demonstrably false. Stipulating that Mr. Buffett isn't objectively stupid, then he must be invincibly ignorant, willfully ignorant, or mentally ill. Whichever it is, you'd think a man of his advanced age would be afraid to die with "I kept thousands (millions?) of babies from being born!" as his "accomplishment."

You're a theologian, aren't you? Maybe you can help with a question I was pondering in the weeks before the election. To what extent does a Catholic have a moral obligation to overcome ignorance? When a person supports a higher minimum wage, even though it demonstrably damages employment prospects for the most needy workers ... and higher tax rates, even though they demonstrably produce lower tax revenues ... and socialized medicine, even though that clearly debases human life and dignity, particularly for the old, children, the handicapped ... is that person morally responsible for supporting policies that are known to hurt people, or is he "innocent" simply because his fantasy is so powerful? Or is a person who steadfastly denies objective reality mentally ill?

19 posted on 11/27/2004 5:19:57 AM PST by Tax-chick (The whole world has gone crazy. Their beebers are stuned and there's no turning back.)
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To: WOSG

"Killing off future customers" doesn't seem the recipe for long-term sales growth!


20 posted on 11/27/2004 5:20:57 AM PST by Tax-chick (The whole world has gone crazy. Their beebers are stuned and there's no turning back.)
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To: Tax-chick
You're a theologian, aren't you?

Well, I play one on the radio sometimes.

Maybe you can help with a question I was pondering in the weeks before the election. To what extent does a Catholic have a moral obligation to overcome ignorance?

Everyone has a moral obligation to overcome ignorance. If anyone refuses to investigate an issue because he suspects that he will have to change his life if he finds out the right answer, and he much prefers the sin he is in, he is as culpable for any resulting sin as he would be if he were fully informed. Indeed, the refusal to seek out Truth is a refusal to seek out God, for God is Truth. That is precisely the refusal which constitutes hell for those who have died.

Now, that having been said, there is such a thing as invincible ignorance, and that can clear you of all consequences. For instance, let's say that I was raised a Southern Baptist and I was taught from infancy that Catholics were pure evil, nothing but idolaters who would twist Scripture in order to snare me to hell.

As a result, I avoided every opportunity I had to learn what the Catholic Church taught because I didn't want to be snared by the devil. Every time I was exposed to the truth of Catholic Faith, I strenuously rejected it because I feared the truth that I saw was really just Satan twisting divine revelation in a way I couldn't detect.

Now, objectively speaking, I have rejected the truths of the Catholic Church and that would normally condemn me. But the REASON I rejected those truths was because I was a God-fearing man who desired to do only what God intended. Because of my peculiar situation, I had no way of knowing nor any way of learning that the Catholic Faith is Truth and that it is indeed where God wants me to be. Thus, I actually have a GREAT shot at heaven. This is not due to my ignorance, it is despite my ignorance.

Oddly enough, the Catholics who failed to correctly proclaim the Gospel to this poor Southern Baptist are the ones more likely to be subject to hell, or at least Purgatory. They had a duty to proclaim the Faith in a way that he would know and embrace, and they failed in that duty.

The same thing would apply here. If the person was raised a socialist or had no access to the Internet or was deeply influenced by college liberals/MSM to such an extent that he could no longer reason clearly, and instead just knee-jerked to every minimum wage law that came along, he isn't going to be culpable.

However, his teachers might well be.

21 posted on 11/27/2004 4:29:23 PM PST by skellmeyer
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To: skellmeyer

That seems to set the bar too low! I understand the example of the Baptist, but I don't see that it transfers to the socialist. If it did, they'd be admitting that socialism is a religion ... and if they're believers in the religion of Socialism, they can't be believers in the religion of Catholicism.

Isn't the support of socialist policies, when it's been shown that these are not beneficial to those in need, really a form of idolatry ... worship of the State, just like Rome's emperor cult?


22 posted on 11/27/2004 4:34:23 PM PST by Tax-chick (The whole world has gone crazy. Their beebers are stuned and there's no turning back.)
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To: Tax-chick
Sure, it's a form of idolatry. But the problem resides in what it means to be shown.

What's crystal clear to me and you may be very unclear to them. After all, this is not strictly a matter of logic. It is also a matter of sin. My sins prevent me from seeing certain truths clearly.

We all like to think we are nice people. Let's say I am an alcoholic. I am predisposed to consciously think of myself as a good person. I may admit that I drink, even sometimes to excess, but I won't admit that my drinking puts my life and the lives of others in danger. My sins prevent me from seeing the reality of what I'm doing to myself and everyone else.

I might have an underlying discomfort with the way I act, but the dissonance between the fantasy I'm insisting on and the reality I'm living is probably not strong enough to rise above the level of discomfort. As long as that is true, it doesn't matter what graphs and charts you show me - I am convinced they don't apply to me.

The same goes for the socialist. Sure, socialism is a proven failure, never worked anywhere. But the socialist has a specific, distorted understanding of himself and the world that he needs to retain in order to maintain the fantasy that he's basically a good person. Thus, he will insist that those "proofs" don't apply to the particular situation he has in mind, that this time it will be different, etc.

The difference between an alcoholic and a socialist is mostly in the spelling.

23 posted on 11/28/2004 12:56:01 PM PST by skellmeyer
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To: skellmeyer

Interesting. Thanks for the explanations ... now I'll need to chew on it for a while!


24 posted on 11/28/2004 2:33:55 PM PST by Tax-chick (The whole world has gone crazy. Their beebers are stuned and there's no turning back.)
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