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Why MTV is in Trouble
The Unknown Blogger ^ | 12/6/2004 | The Unknown Blogger

Posted on 12/06/2004 1:51:24 PM PST by unknownblogger

I recently read an article online stating that record company Universal is looking into starting their own music channel to compete with MTV. Apparently, the company is tired of giving videos to MTV for practically no cost, then watching as the channel runs episodes of "The Real World" and "Pimp My Ride" for hours on end. Warner has also expressed interest in a new channel.

The whole point of the labels giving MTV videos is so they can gain exposure, but since the videos aren't getting much airtime, the recording industry is threatening to make MTV start paying for music. I know it's ironic that MTV would be second on the list after KaZaA users, but that's beside the point. MTV only pays for exclusivity rights (in other words, so Fuse can't air those videos), but if a video is only going to air before noon and after midnight, it's no wonder the labels want them to start paying up. I recently TiVoed a 3-hour block of music videos to see what the big deal was...

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Business/Economy; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
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1 posted on 12/06/2004 1:51:24 PM PST by unknownblogger
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To: unknownblogger

MTV cancelled their inauguration party/ball this year. I wonder why?


2 posted on 12/06/2004 1:54:21 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: unknownblogger
The sooner it dies the better.

I'm in the generation that was in high school when M-TV premiered. I didn't get it then, I certainly don't get it now, and now it seems to be even less 'music' television than 'deviant lifestyles of the unbathed' television. The sooner it gets replaced with the Ceramic Cat Network the better.

3 posted on 12/06/2004 2:01:42 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: atomicpossum

I enjoyed "Headbanger's Ball" on MTV back in the day, but that's about it. There's no more MUSIC on MUSIC Television, anyway. What happened to Dokken, Van Halen, Skid Row, Motley Crue and all that?


4 posted on 12/06/2004 2:14:22 PM PST by RockinRight (Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
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To: RockinRight

Yeah, I still watch Headbanger's Ball on MTV2.


5 posted on 12/06/2004 2:15:40 PM PST by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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To: unknownblogger

MTV is like Microsoft. They've gotten the arrogance of being number 1 too long.

They need some real competition.


6 posted on 12/06/2004 2:19:55 PM PST by Read2Know
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To: Stew Padasso

Nice freepname!

I don't get MTV2, unfortunately.


7 posted on 12/06/2004 2:20:50 PM PST by RockinRight (Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
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To: Stew Padasso

Nice freepname!

I don't get MTV2, unfortunately.


8 posted on 12/06/2004 2:20:50 PM PST by RockinRight (Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
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To: unknownblogger

If you are going to be a blogger breaking news, you need to checkout MSNBC's interview with MTV's parent CEO Sumner Redstone of Viacom from yesterday in which he blatantly lied about being a pro-Bush supporter...then compare it to the public records on opensecrets.org for his Campaign 2004 political donations. Here, I've done the hard work for you below. Now go forth and be a blogger hero by "breaking" this story...

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REDSTONE, SUMMER M
DEDHAM,MA 02026

VIACOM INC/CHAIR MAN OF THE BOARD

5/3/2004

$1,000

Kerry, John

REDSTONE, SUMNER
DEDHAM,MA 02026

VIACOM/CHAIRMAN AND CEO

4/5/2004

$5,000

Viacom Inc

REDSTONE, SUMNER
NEW YORK,NY 10036

VIACOM INTERNATIONAL

4/10/2003

$5,000

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte

REDSTONE, SUMNER
NEW YORK,NY 10036

VIACOM INC

9/26/2003

$2,000

Daschle, Tom

REDSTONE, SUMNER
DEDHAM,MA 02026

 

2/3/2004

$1,000

Kerry, John

REDSTONE, SUMNER
NEW YORK,NY 10036

VIACOM INC

9/26/2003

$1,000

Daschle, Tom

REDSTONE, SUMNER
NEWTON,MA 02459

VIACOM

5/13/2004

$1,000

Kennedy, Edward M

REDSTONE, SUMNER M
NEW YORK,NY 10036

VIACOM INC./CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD A

4/11/2003

$5,000

National Cable & Telecommunications Assn

REDSTONE, SUMNER M
NEW YORK,NY 10036

VIACOM INC./CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD A

4/14/2004

$5,000

National Cable & Telecommunications Assn

REDSTONE, SUMNER M
NEW YORK,NY 10036

VIACOM

5/5/2003

$2,000

Hatch, Orrin G

REDSTONE, SUMNER M
DEDHAM,MA 02027

NATIONAL AMUSEMENTS INC. & VAAEM I/

12/5/2003

$1,000

Kerry, John

REDSTONE, SUMNER M
NEW YORK,NY 10036

VIACOM

3/28/2003

$1,000

Leahy, Patrick

REDSTONE, SUMNER M
NEW YORK,NY 10036

VIACOM

3/28/2003

$1,000

Leahy, Patrick


9 posted on 12/06/2004 2:25:45 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6173187/site/newsweek/


10 posted on 12/06/2004 2:30:04 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: atomicpossum
I liked it in 1982 and for a few years thereafter but then it's anti-Christian agenda became blatently apparent.

Music videos was actually a pretty neat idea.

11 posted on 12/06/2004 2:34:36 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

Yep, I watched MTV from 82-84, and it was great. And then I had other fish to fry, they started playing with the format, and I quit.

Now I don't watch any TV, and I listen to Celtic music...the world is different!


12 posted on 12/06/2004 2:38:00 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Howlin; Buckhead; NYC Republican; Mudboy Slim

c#9 & #10


13 posted on 12/06/2004 3:16:03 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: unknownblogger

I remember when MTV was Music Television – and actually had music.


14 posted on 12/06/2004 3:17:34 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: mhking

c#9


15 posted on 12/06/2004 3:18:28 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
HOO the heck's Sumner Redstone?!

LOL...MUD

16 posted on 12/06/2004 5:06:36 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH the HildaBeast's Hubby!!)
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To: RockinRight
What happened to Dokken, Van Halen, Skid Row, Motley Crue and all that?

Watch "Metal Mania" on VH-1 Classic. All those bands are there - every Saturday night for two hours.

The new Headbanger's Ball on MTV2 is mostly nu-metal, Cookie Monster-vocals, and New York hardcore bands...with a few exceptions there isn't much real metal at all.

17 posted on 12/06/2004 5:10:16 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Southack
As they say on Monday Night Countdown (ESPN), "Sumner Redstone is JACKED UP!!!
18 posted on 12/06/2004 7:11:08 PM PST by Buckhead
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To: RockinRight

I used to watch Headbanger's Ball every weekend. Three hours of Queen, Stryper, Teg Nugent, Poison...it was great. But that was circa 1985, 86, 87.


19 posted on 12/06/2004 7:14:16 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie.)
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To: KC_Conspirator; unknownblogger
MTV cancelled their inauguration party/ball this year. I wonder why?

Hopefully they'll cancel in 2009 and 2013 too.

20 posted on 12/07/2004 2:33:58 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (`Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: KC_Conspirator
MTV cancelled their inauguration party/ball this year. I wonder why?

Because we ROCKED the Vote. Ha hah!

21 posted on 12/09/2004 4:06:47 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: 537cant be wrong; Aeronaut; bassmaner; Bella_Bru; cgk; ChadGore; chilepepper; Cutterjohnmhb; ...

Rock and Roll PING! email Weegee to get on/off this list (or grab it yourself to PING the rest)

22 posted on 12/09/2004 4:09:52 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: unknownblogger
I used to love MTV in the early and mid 80s. Back when they actually showed videos. The new wave bands always seemed a little more experimental and interesting in the early days. When more mainstream artists jumped on the bandwagon, I lost interest.

120 Minutes in the early days was awesome.

23 posted on 12/09/2004 4:24:12 PM PST by RepoGirl (Rottweilers are republican; all cats vote nader.)
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To: unknownblogger

MTV Sucks. Period. They've jettisoned everything that ever made them worth watching. Just when I thought they couldn't sink any lower they traded "Jackass" for "Viva la Bam". Sewage.


24 posted on 12/09/2004 4:29:12 PM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: weegee

"M.T.V.-Get Off The Air"
By Dead Kennedys

Fun Fun Fun in the fluffy chair
Flame up the herb
Woof down the beer
[click!]

Hi
I'm your video DJ
I always talk like I'm wigged out on quaaludes
I wear a satin baseball jacket everywhere I go

My job is to help destroy
What's left of your imagination
By feeding you endless doses
Of sugar-coated mindless garbage

So don't create
Be sedate
Be a vegetable at home
And thwack on that dial
If we have our way even you will believe
This is the future of rock and roll

How far will you go
How low will you stoop
To tranquilize our minds with your sugar-coated swill

You've turned rock and roll rebellion
Into Pat Boone sedation
Making sure nothing's left to the imagination

M.T.V. Get off the
M.T.V. Get off the
M.T.V. Get off the air
Get off the air

See the latest rejects from the muppet show
Wag their t*ts and their d*cks
As they lip-synch on screen
There's something I don't like
About a band who always smiles
Another tax write-off
For some schmuck who doesn't care

M.T.V. Get off the air
And so it was
Our beloved corporate gods
Claimed they created rock video
Allowing it to sink as low in one year
As commercial TV has in 25
"It's the new frontier," they say
It's wide open, anything can happen
But you've got a lot of nerve
To call yourself a pioneer
When you're too g*d-d*mn conservative
To take real chances.

Tin-eared
Graph-paper brained accountants
Instead of music fans
Call all the shots at giant record companies now

The lowest common denominator rules
Forget honesty
Forget creativity
The dumbest buy the mostest
That's the name of the game

But sales are slumping
And no one will say why
Could it be they put out one too many lousy records?!?

M.T.V.-Get off the air!
NOW


25 posted on 12/09/2004 4:53:39 PM PST by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: unknownblogger

Mutant Television should go off the air.
Ops4 God Bless America!


26 posted on 12/09/2004 5:00:06 PM PST by OPS4 (worth repeating)
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To: Spiff

Bring back "Beavis and Butthead!"


27 posted on 12/09/2004 5:02:04 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: unknownblogger

MTV is in trouble for the exact same reason the NBA is in trouble. ;)


28 posted on 12/09/2004 5:02:36 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: RepoGirl

I agree, 120 minutes was great.

Love your screename! RepoMan Is my fav cult classic!


29 posted on 12/09/2004 5:30:20 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife
RepoMan is just an amazing movie. It was a big influence on me and my little reprobate punk friends back in the 80s.

Ahh, 120 minutes--lots of memories of early college, late night paper writing sessions, and all that hair dye. ::sigh::

30 posted on 12/09/2004 6:52:21 PM PST by RepoGirl (Rottweilers are republican; all cats vote nader.)
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To: RepoGirl

I just found out that "archie" Micheal Sandoval? was in jurrasic park L0L

"Dukie Wookie Hurt his widdle hand" shut up archie! "Im taking over the gang, King Archie!"

Ya lil puttybutt ;)


31 posted on 12/09/2004 6:55:56 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife
I still think the best line in that movie is, "Otto--what about our relationship?"

"Relationship... f**k that..."

And of course, "I don't wanna know. I don't wanna learn. Drivin' makes you stupid. I do my best thinkin' on the bus..."

"You do a lot of drugs, you know, back in the hippy days?"

32 posted on 12/09/2004 8:09:33 PM PST by RepoGirl (Rottweilers are republican; all cats vote nader.)
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To: RepoGirl

L0L that movie was a vault of golden quotes.

"theres room to move as a fry cook. In 2 years I could be king" L0L


33 posted on 12/09/2004 8:12:21 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: RepoGirl

I gotta admit Miller was my fave charachter L0L


34 posted on 12/09/2004 8:15:19 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: RepoGirl
Wierd RepoMan Trailer
35 posted on 12/09/2004 8:22:38 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: unknownblogger

After watching MTV recently in which all they did was play hours and hours of 50 Cent, P-Diddy, Talk Shitty, Suck Titty, Usher in the Thugs and Hoes, and other inner city deviants of society, -- I came to the conclusion MTV stands for Making Terrible Vomit.

After all, the only time non rap rock n roll gets some airplay is at 3 am Eastern time, and even then the bands are the 3-chord scream-at-the-top-of-their-pathetic-lungs variety in which they simply Mosh onstage while spewing vile fits of hate at American society.

I am an big time original Rock n Roll fanatic, from Dylan to the Cream to the Doors to Credence to the Stones (never missed a STones tour since 1972, but in my book, MTV has nothing whatsoever to do with music.

It is simply a channel to promote ghetto thuggery while brainwashing the youth of America into accepting deep tongued french kisses among men as supposedly normal.

That and the channel operator's attempt at convincing normal youth that the ghetto Bloods n Crypts rumble culture is the future.


36 posted on 12/09/2004 8:25:51 PM PST by Edit35
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To: mylife

He went on to be lead singer of the Circle Jerks. Didn't even look like a Sheen/Estevez.


37 posted on 12/09/2004 9:15:11 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: mylife

"Archie" just reminded me of a low grade Sid Haig ripoff (especially circa Spider Baby or Pit Stop).

Sid is the real actor to look at's filmography.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0354085/


38 posted on 12/09/2004 9:19:31 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

CJ's were pretty cool, I liked the improve style, and the social satire


39 posted on 12/09/2004 9:19:58 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: weegee

Never saw that L0L

But Im an Iggster fan L0L! The guy is an enigma

The inly film Ihave with Iggy is "deadman"


40 posted on 12/09/2004 9:23:45 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: weegee

Hell, that didnt make sense.

I dont know Sid Haigs work


41 posted on 12/09/2004 9:28:39 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife
I'd recommend looking into Spider Baby. Definitely a cult classic.

Suspenders AND a shaved head!

42 posted on 12/09/2004 9:43:48 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

Yes, Vote or Die.


43 posted on 12/10/2004 6:43:25 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: RepoGirl
i too watched MYV and liked the videos, but over time i have become suspicious of what MTV's real purpose is, and as a corollary, what the purpose of hollywood inspired movies, tv or music is.

IMHO, they are nothing more than instruments to hypnotize -- the videos, movies, tv, "rock/rap/country hits" are flashing lights and/or music repeated often enough to become familiar and popular, all meant to numb the mind -- disembodied images and figures that have no real meaning, and are meant to keep whoever watches them pliant and controllable and willing to believe what told...

44 posted on 12/12/2004 1:08:12 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: RockinRight

"Liquid TV" was pretty good too-I liked that weird "Aeon Flux" thing,though I never really understood it,and I remember liking a lot of other things on "Liquid TV" that I've long forgotten.

I also used to like something called "Turkey Television"(I forget what channel it came on)that showed short cartoon clips,and different ads from all over the world-they were interesting,to see the different sensibilities of what makes things sell in other countries,and they were often funny and/or risque.

But there's no accounting for taste, I also liked the old "Hee Haw",especially when the dancing pigs would come across the screen while the guest performer was singing.When Hee Haw tried to go more "urban" after changing ownership,the whole concept was ruined for me- I LIKED the cornball humor and caricatures of Southerners and rural life,and I'm a proud Southerner raised in the country myself.

I get the DVDs of the old Hee Haw episodes from Time-Life now,the ones with the young Tammy Wynette are a hoot-I love her voice and songs to death,but that hair was a sight to behold-and she had been a beautician,LOL.


45 posted on 02/07/2005 2:49:06 AM PST by mrsmel (Parallel our sights,And we will find, that we, we need, to be, where we, belong)
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To: atomicpossum

I'm telling on myself,but I saw the first MTV video ever played-"Video Killed The Radio Star" by the Buggles.Which thought leads to memories of "Miami Vice". I still like that show,is it shown anywhere in reruns? I was interested to find out recently that one of the Buggles members was in the YES Eighties line-up. I'm a major YES fan,but prefer the "classic" lineup-Wakeman,Bruford,Anderson,Howe,and Squire,the ones on "Fragile" and "Close to The Edge". I love to hear those "Emerson v Wakeman" arguments,when real musicians get into it. I love hearing and learning about the technical differences(though I don't understand half of what they're talking about:))


46 posted on 02/07/2005 3:00:30 AM PST by mrsmel (Parallel our sights,And we will find, that we, we need, to be, where we, belong)
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To: Ciexyz
Ah, yes, Stryper!!


47 posted on 04/05/2005 7:10:05 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: RockinRight

Oh Lord, "Stryper" from 20 years ago...when Heavy Metal still ruled. When I listened to Headbangers' Ball on MTV. {Sigh} Those were the days!


48 posted on 04/05/2005 11:16:00 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: unknownblogger

I haven't cared about MTV since they got rid of Kennedy, the VJ (who was a conservative Republican)


49 posted on 04/05/2005 11:17:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

I stopped watching MTV years ago when they stopped playing music and turned into GHETTO or GTV.


I missed my rock vids. Hell, I missed music.


50 posted on 04/05/2005 11:17:34 AM PDT by trubluolyguy ("If the enemy is in range, so are you")
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