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January Surprise - Rest in Peace
Ravings of John C. A. Bambenek ^ | 2-1-05 | John Bambenek

Posted on 01/31/2005 9:36:29 PM PST by jbamb

In memoriam of the January surprise, that the draft would be reinstated, which perished on February 1st, 2005. This memoriam is dedicated to Democrat Chuck Rangel, the lawmaker who introduced legislation to reinstate the draft that was promptly put down by his fellow lawmakers. This montage of quotes serves as a reminder of those who warned the draft was eminent under George Bush II

Sen. Kerry (D): With George Bush, the plan for Iraq is more of the same and the great potential of a draft. (Via cBS)

Sen. Harkin (D): The deteriorating facts on the ground in Iraq, plus the Bush doctrine of acting pre-emptively and unilaterally against hostile regimes, will soon leave him no choice. If President Bush is re-elected, he will have to restart the draft. (Via Information Clearinghouse)

Howard Dean (D): President Bush will be forced to decide whether we can continue the current course in Iraq, which will clearly require the reinstatement of the draft. (Via Democracy for America)

Terry McAuliffe (D): I know it's controversial to say it, but don't think for one second that if George Bush gets re-elected and we have another conflict in some other theater of the world, we're going to have to reinstitute the draft. (Via CNS News)

Max Cleland (D): America will reinstate the military draft (via MSNBC)

Dennis Kucinich (D): Listen up, young America… you could be facing a Compulsory Draft! (via His own website which is now gone)

Websites such as Bush Draft are long gone, and today we're talking about reducing troop levels this year and how soon we can get out.

Surprise Draft - Rest in Peace


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society; UFO's
KEYWORDS: dead; democrats; draft; flatulence; iraq; republicans; war

1 posted on 01/31/2005 9:36:30 PM PST by jbamb
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To: jbamb
If the Democrats keep trashing our Soldier's efforts to spread freedom in the Middle East, and the President's genuine concern for Social Security's viability, they too will soon "Rest in Peace"

President Bush said there will be no draft, and you would think that after 4 years of him saying what he means, and doing what he says, they wouldn't play politics with something as sensitive as bringing back the draft.

The Democrats need to understand that President Bush plays Chess, not Checkers!

2 posted on 01/31/2005 9:53:49 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288

It wasn't that they thought he would institute a draft, it was that they thought the could convince voters that he would. And they were somewhat successful at that. But now, they lose and need to move on.


3 posted on 01/31/2005 9:58:42 PM PST by jbamb
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To: jbamb

The draft was always a scare tactic.

'today we're talking about reducing troop levels this year'

Maybe in Iraq, but inreasing the numbers in the Armed Forces is still very much an issue, a welcome one as well.


4 posted on 01/31/2005 10:05:11 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

Yeah, but the scare tactic was that Iraq would force a draft, and that clearly isn't the case.


5 posted on 01/31/2005 10:07:29 PM PST by jbamb
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To: jbamb
"It wasn't that they thought he would institute a draft, it was that they thought the could convince voters that he would. And they were somewhat successful at that. But now, they lose and need to move on."

I disagree, nobody took the "Draft" issue seriously, the only peoiple who did, were the leftist dirt bags who were trying to scare the piublic :-)

6 posted on 01/31/2005 10:11:52 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288

Polls seemed to show that they had an effect on the youth... now whether that turned into votes on election day is an open issue...

A bunch of people on campus here were sure convinced they were going to be drafted...


7 posted on 01/31/2005 10:13:49 PM PST by jbamb
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To: jbamb

All true, and all BS. I was responding to the troop level blurb at the end of the story. I believe there will and should be an increase, cutting which programs to pay for it will be the interesting fight.


8 posted on 01/31/2005 10:16:18 PM PST by xone
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To: jbamb

Take a look at what I told the Washington Post last October when they asked me, as a Conservative High School student, about the draft.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1233584/posts


9 posted on 01/31/2005 10:18:40 PM PST by AVNevis (You are never too young to stand up for America)
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To: AVNevis
My comment to Washington Post:

You E-mailed me earlier today about my opinions regarding the military draft. 1st off: My name is Andy Nevis, I'm 14 years old, and go to John F. Kennedy High School in Sacramento, CA. Here are the answers to your questions:

1. I am actually not very concerned about a return of a draft right now, especially under George W. Bush. I would become more concerned if John Kerry was elected. I know that a number a factors, including that Donald Rumsfeld in his early congressional career was one of the first to call for an end to the draft in the Vietnam War mean that Bush will likely not reinstate the draft. However, John Kerry is a different story. As far as I know he has yet to say that he would oppose a draft. And even if he has said he opposes it, I don't trust him on it because he has a way of changing his mind so often. On November third he could come out and say, "What I said to you during the campaign was based on false data. We need a draft to increase our troop levels." With the flip-flops he's done so far I wouldn't put it beyond him. But one point needs to be made about the rest of the school: It might be one of the top issues on campus as far as politics goes but traditional teenage issues like boyfriends, girlfriends, classes, ext. are still much more talked about than the draft. I would say on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being totally ignoring the possibility of a draft and 10 being talking about it all the time, the campus is probably about a 3.

2. Regarding my parents concerns I believe you have already talked to my Mom on the phone and hopefully you asked her that.

3. I actually haven't talked with many girls about the draft. However, I assume they would be paying about the same amount of attention as the boys, which, as I said in number 1, isn't that much in the general scheme of things.

4. I would say in general that this issue is helping to push young people to Kerry. However, in my opinion they are mistaken in doing so. Don Rumsfeld has come out against the draft every time it has been asked. He was against it even during Vietnam. Some far-left wing groups like the green party have made up rumors that Bush has a secret plan to reinstate the draft after the election, and sadly some kids are believing it.

5. I know if the draft was reinstated and I were drafted I would serve. I think most other young people would too. This generation of young people are more patriotic than the Vietnam generation, especially after the 9/11 attacks.

Overall I would like to say they I am not that worried about the draft. There is absolutely no evidence that either candidate would bring it back if elected. I think, however, that if you were voting just on their positions about the draft you would vote for George W. Bush. Young people should also know that every time a draft has been started except the civil war, it has been stated by a Democratic President. If you are just going off of what these left-wing groups tell you, than I can understand why it would cause you to support John Kerry. However, if you research the issue like I have, clearly it is apparent that the better candidate on the issue of the draft is George Bush.

Also, I want to thank you for asking my opinion. This is the first time any journalist has ever asked for my opinion on anything. If any other reporters want to contact me just send them to avnevis@aol.com.

Thank You,
Andy Nevis
10 posted on 01/31/2005 10:19:56 PM PST by AVNevis (You are never too young to stand up for America)
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To: jbamb
"A bunch of people on campus here were sure convinced they were going to be drafted..."

That "bunch of people" is probably convinced that Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" is a documentary as well? :-)

Anything would effect a "bunch of people" who can't think for themselves. I prefer to see them vote for the Dems if they're that friggin stupid

11 posted on 01/31/2005 10:22:41 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: JKrive; Conservative Bueler

PING

Thought you might be interested.

And tell Tim to come back. We'd love to have him.


12 posted on 01/31/2005 10:30:38 PM PST by AVNevis (You are never too young to stand up for America)
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