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Hannity asks Freepers for help...
http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org/ ^

Posted on 02/17/2005 1:16:39 PM PST by Alex Marko

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www.Studentsforacademicfreedom.org is a website for a student ridiculed by liberal professor... Lets help Hannity out


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To: international american
I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon to skewer Sean Hannity. I listened to the audio of his comments yesterday and I listened to his apology and explanation today.

Bottom line, Sean Hannity and FreeRepublic still want the same thing. And this is not a case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. All things aside, it's not. Some, and I hope most, FReepers will understand that.

People can think what they want to, obviously, about Sean Hannity, but I'll be an individual and voice my opinion too. I also think that is one of the things that makes FreeRepublic the best conservative blog there is.

I know I would not be the only FReeper to say that we do have our fringe element. I argue like cats and dogs with one FReeper in particular. But deep down I know he still values most of the things I value, even though his life experiences are alot different than mine.

And if push came to shove, and he was being attacked by a liberal demwit, I would have his back in a heartbeat. He'll rename nameless, but if he reads this he will without a doubt recognize himself.

Just my two cents, for what it's worth.

51 posted on 02/17/2005 3:03:54 PM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: Smartaleck

I listen to Sean a couple of times a week, I did today, and I think well of him. He may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I don't see much reason for some people to attack him. He is consistently in support of our military and our president, and he does get some good points across to callers.

I don't know that he's repetitious, or that it's a 17 yo level as some have said--and I have never heard him mention his book. Maybe he does all that stuff on days I don't listen. But I doubt it.

So far, I like Sean Hannity a lot more than I like H&C, and more than O'Reilly.


52 posted on 02/17/2005 3:07:37 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: CGVet58; Alex Marko; jasoncann; wallcrawlr; God luvs America; A CA Guy; international american; ...

http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/


53 posted on 02/17/2005 3:08:06 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: Alex Marko
Not likely.

If you had asked the question yesterday, before his show I would have been happy.

Now I will not use my FReeeper abilities to feather his cap.

That's about it.

he is on his own in whatever endeavor he pursues. I will not help him, but I will help the cause.

Just not one he is associated directly with.

54 posted on 02/17/2005 3:11:31 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Thanks for the link, brohamie.


55 posted on 02/17/2005 3:12:16 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: libs_kma
We are not a blog. That is insulting.

We are a discussion board and activism hub. Not a darn blog. Or weblog.

56 posted on 02/17/2005 3:14:07 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Cold Heat

Ok, ColdHeat..how about a "great meeting place and advocacy forum."?


57 posted on 02/17/2005 3:16:42 PM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: airborne

Yes I'll admit I've had the foot in the mouth disease a number of times myself. I was a little peeved with him yesterday, because I thought he was having ego problems, but he does do alot of good things for others. (Just like FR)


58 posted on 02/17/2005 3:19:01 PM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: DrNo

It's dot ORG


59 posted on 02/17/2005 3:19:09 PM PST by scheuber
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To: Alex Marko
Hannity kind of pissed me off yesterday. I don't think I want to help him anymore. In fact, I am leaning towards classifying him as a O'Reilly type.
60 posted on 02/17/2005 3:25:28 PM PST by Porterville (Down with politicians.... Down with Judicial Fiat)
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To: Alex Marko
He apologized today to Freerepublic.com....lets give him a break....

When, Where?
61 posted on 02/17/2005 3:27:46 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: libs_kma
That's good.

Bloggers are being denigrated as fools in many circles. There is some truth to that, as truth on a blog is a rare thing on the other side.

We ferret the truth out of MSM news and opinion.

A huge difference between what we do and a essay blogger or even a link site like Drudge.

We do have a blogger section, however it does not reflect what we do here. It is just a blog section of a much larger enterprise.

We are fortunate to have such a thing. I get kinda bowed up, when it is attacked.:-)

62 posted on 02/17/2005 3:29:53 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: God luvs America
"no terrorist funding fomr the likes of George Soros here- Hannity should celebrate this place rather then berate it for his own good."

Me thinks far too many here; protest way too much about a Conservative who has a national radio/tv audience. Has Hannity criicized some here at FR? Yes. . .(Actually his criticism began as a response. . .) Has he been criticized here at FR. . .sure . .and plenty.

No one has to like the guy. . .but why are some here so thin-skinned?

Hannity has been under attack mode here for over a year - actually longer - substantiative observations by many; stupid carping by many others.

Why cannot more here. . .just move along; and focus on getting the truth out about the Libs; and the truth out re the Repub message. . .

The more 'bahwahhing' here re Hannity; the more his point about some 'fringe' seems valid - worse, his description of some here as 'fringe'; at the least, is beginning to look like a compliment. . .and at the most, a self-fulfilling prophecy. . .why make his point for him?

And every time he mentions FR; no doubt more come to see what FR is about; it is still a win. . .

63 posted on 02/17/2005 3:32:02 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: Smartaleck
Get criticized and run away.

Worse than that, launch attacks at the forum from a nationally syndicated show as payback and to advertise his own forum.

Trixie did not even do that.

He did not apologize, he dug deeper. justified his actions.

Can't do that.

I guess I am done with this. Nothing left to say.

64 posted on 02/17/2005 3:36:30 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: SittinYonder

Since I wasn't a Freeper during that time and didn't even know about this site, I don't know what all went on or who was here so please forgive my question when I sincerely ask......how do you know you were one of the "fringe kooks" he referred to?

I ask this because most of the people I have exchanged with, read or so-called met in here strike me as well grounded, very interesting, very knowledgable and people I learn a lot from....but there have been one at times that kinda scare me or have been rather rude. These later are what I think of as "fringe kooks".


65 posted on 02/17/2005 3:36:58 PM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: thoughtomator
There was an apology? Where?

It was very veiled. He 'clarified'

66 posted on 02/17/2005 3:43:15 PM PST by evad
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To: international american
Don't mention it.

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

67 posted on 02/17/2005 3:55:14 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: Delphinium

He mentioned freerepublic on getting the word out on liberal professors and contacting the school when he was talking to that muslim student that wrote a pro-american essay and was ridiculed by a liberal professor.

Fact is, any mention of Freerepublic.com(especially on tv) would benefit our forum greatly.


68 posted on 02/17/2005 4:09:43 PM PST by Alex Marko
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To: jasoncann

Unbelievable story! Such a shame that this young man was persecuted for his views.


69 posted on 02/17/2005 4:17:08 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: evad

Ahh. In other words, he pulled a Clinton.

You know, I would have forgotten the insult already had he simply been man enough to admit he was wrong and said "sorry".


70 posted on 02/17/2005 4:23:12 PM PST by thoughtomator (If Islam is a religion, so is Liberal!)
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To: libs_kma

I hold no animus toward Hannity. Hell, I watch him almost every night H&C but he and all other conservatives in the media need to be careful about attacking each other. Free Republic is an immensely valuable asset, and because of this is on every left wing hitlist.


71 posted on 02/17/2005 4:31:44 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: Alex Marko
OK !....... Hannity did whine a bit yesterday & today, but he tried to make good on his radio show today. I DID THINK his explanation of this "big misunderstanding" was a WEAK one. Still........

He gets: 1 (ONE)- GET OUT OF JAIL FREE Card to use this time. I'm a HUGE believer in the "it's better to debate over, than to divide over" theory, but his next Freeper train wreck, he may not survive!

72 posted on 02/17/2005 4:31:53 PM PST by austinmark (If GOD Had Been A Liberal, We Wouldn't Have Had The Ten Commandments- We'd Have The Ten Suggestions.)
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To: Judith Anne

"I think well of him. He may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I don't see much reason for some people to attack him."

Exactly. There some things he goes on and on about that loses me but rather than get ticked I switch channels/stations. Some seem unable to do that. LOL


73 posted on 02/17/2005 4:32:14 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: Cold Heat

"Keep up the good work Sean! (Hannity)
Posted on 02/17/2005 3:15:24 PM CST by Jim Robinson
Keep up the good work Sean!"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345465/posts

Yep, not much else you can say I imagine.


74 posted on 02/17/2005 4:34:25 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: thoughtomator
"You know, I would have forgotten the insult already had he simply been man enough to admit he was wrong and said "sorry"."

Why would he have to apologize for pointing out that some on here attack him and others personally? It is against the policy of this web site to do so ya know?
75 posted on 02/17/2005 4:37:02 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: libs_kma

"Ok, ColdHeat..how about a "great meeting place and advocacy forum."?"

I guess for some it matters bunches. Get insulted even! LOL


76 posted on 02/17/2005 4:42:28 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: cricket

Very very well said but having been here so long you would know that. LOL

It's unfortunate that there are a few that behave in a way that only serves to enforce the liberal stereotype of the right.......mean, mean spirted, hateful.....yadda yadda.

Undermines the credibility for the rest.


77 posted on 02/17/2005 4:46:46 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: Smartaleck

Did you hear what he actually said? You are not characterizing it accurately. If you heard it, then the reason an apology is due should be rather obvious.


78 posted on 02/17/2005 4:49:22 PM PST by thoughtomator (If Islam is a religion, so is Liberal!)
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To: Cold Heat

Completely Understood. From one ground pounder to another, thanks for your service to Country!


79 posted on 02/17/2005 4:52:57 PM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: Smartaleck
Jim has a dog in this hunt.

It is called the forum.

The people that slammed Hannity two years ago are not likely here anymore, to begin with.

Jim zotted them personally in most cases, or they left with tail between legs.

From JR's perspective, hannity is right in his criticisms of what happened to him personally, but I am right to be very upset, dismayed and angered at the shotgun blast leveled at everyone on this forum.

It is one heck of a lot better than it was before, and gets better all the time.

Some people are going to come here with a narrow mind, a motive, and sometimes a lousy immature argument style.

They are a minority and often do not last long.

Hannity threw a bomb that did not hit them. It hit those of us who try everyday to promote reasoned and civil arguments. We are pretty successful.

Hannity made a big mistake with his original comments, and now that I have heard the explanation I understand how he came to those conclusions.

He admitted he has not been on the forum in a couple years. He admits by that statement that he has no clue what it is like here any longer and what we go through to allow freedom of thought, yet civil discourse. He named some folks who we know to be of the same opinions and currently engaged in some cases with FR bashing from the outside.

Perfection will never be attained, but the struggle to get there is always a high priority. It must always be balanced by freedom to express ones views however. We are never going to please everyone. Not even most.

I hope people appreciate his fee based, highly regulated forum,but that quashes much of what makes FR as dynamic as it is.

80 posted on 02/17/2005 4:57:03 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: libs_kma
I appreciate the sentiment.
81 posted on 02/17/2005 4:58:40 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Cold Heat

Surely Sean can get this taken care of by using his own touted forum on his own website, without my help.


82 posted on 02/17/2005 5:13:45 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: Alex Marko

I agree. If he appologized, it makes no sense to keep beating up on him. We share a common goal of spreading conservatism, and he does a damn fine job of doing just that. What's surprising is how out of touch he is with what's been happening on this site. FR and specifically Buckhead busted the Rathergate story wide open. He and the rest of the media establishment were way behind on that story, so maybe he's as insulated as the rest when it comes to thumbing a nose at anything outside of the MSM'S interests.


83 posted on 02/17/2005 5:15:38 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: thoughtomator
"If you heard it, then the reason an apology is due should be rather obvious."

Perhaps he will when those who personally attacked him do so?
84 posted on 02/17/2005 5:17:55 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: Cold Heat

Excellent summary!!!!

I would suggest, not so much to yourself, that some get some of that thicker skin they've said Hannity needs to grow. :-)


85 posted on 02/17/2005 5:21:03 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: Smartaleck

From posts I've read today concerning this matter, I think I will no longer turn on either his radio or TV show. Mind you that I was a big defender of Sean before the last couple of days.

Well, there goes at least 10% of his audience after these last two fruitful days by Sean.

I'm very disappointed by him. I now find those that criticized him to be right in doing so.


86 posted on 02/17/2005 5:21:34 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: cricket

if his criticism was legit I would understand your point- but his criticism was for no other reason then to get people to post over on his site- plain and simple.


87 posted on 02/17/2005 5:22:10 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Smartaleck

He insulted all of us, not just the ones who "attacked" him.


88 posted on 02/17/2005 5:25:25 PM PST by thoughtomator (If Islam is a religion, so is Liberal!)
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To: Smartaleck
I don't agree with some of these personal statements.

Ya can't prevent people from expressing anger over it, but some decorum is required.

You also can't run away and then lash out, not knowing that if you had stuck it out, you may well have won after all.

89 posted on 02/17/2005 5:26:18 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Alex Marko
He apologized today to Freerepublic.com....lets give him a break....

He did? I missed it. I wasn't mad at him anyway over his comments but I would have liked to have heard it. He's on our side. Thats good enough for me. I really don't care what he says about us as long as he keeps up the good work.

90 posted on 02/17/2005 5:26:21 PM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: old-ager

I agree... besides.. some of us, myself not excluded ARE kooks. But this still seems like a good cause. I admire the young man who wrote the article, and feel his efforts are worthy of support.


91 posted on 02/17/2005 5:27:27 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: SittinYonder

Add a point or two as it IS his second language after all.


92 posted on 02/17/2005 5:28:53 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: Cold Heat

"If you had asked the question yesterday, before his show I would have been happy.
Now I will not use my FReeeper abilities to feather his cap."

Get a grip man. The request is to help a student. The link is to a website the student is associated with.

Beyond he pointing the student and his plight out out what does Sean have to do with anything? He doesn't need help...the student does.


93 posted on 02/17/2005 5:29:58 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: airborne
I'm willing to cut Sean some slack.

Absolutely. We're all in this together and we're allies, not enemies. I'm very, very glad Sean is there. Thanks, Sean, for all you do. You're a great American.

94 posted on 02/17/2005 5:31:52 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: conservativecorner

I agree as well, and tend to wonder about the real motivations, and possibly political alignments, of those who keep harping on it.


95 posted on 02/17/2005 5:32:22 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: libs_kma
And if push came to shove, and he was being attacked by a liberal demwit, I would have his back in a heartbeat.

Same here. In a heartbeat!

96 posted on 02/17/2005 5:33:04 PM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: Alex Marko

I heard that segment - what a fine young man he sounds like. Los Altos Hills is a pretty affluent community, and this professor sounds like a leftist ingrate. I'm in.


97 posted on 02/17/2005 5:35:28 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: A CA Guy
Try this out perhaps....

"forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us"

Or not.

98 posted on 02/17/2005 5:37:19 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: thoughtomator

"He insulted all of us, not just the ones who "attacked" him."

Read the post. Apparently he didn't insult all of US.

How do you come to this information that you claim to know all who were "insulted"?


99 posted on 02/17/2005 5:39:48 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: Smartaleck
I don't mean to be coy, but I am a member of David Horowitz's sites, and I am a occasional contributor when I can help.

The student organization is also his and I received E-mails on the students situation, long before I read this thread.

What got my goat was the "lets help Hannity".

100 posted on 02/17/2005 5:40:25 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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