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Hannity asks Freepers for help...
http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org/ ^

Posted on 02/17/2005 1:16:39 PM PST by Alex Marko

Edited on 02/17/2005 1:56:18 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

www.Studentsforacademicfreedom.org is a website for a student ridiculed by liberal professor... Lets help Hannity out


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To: Cold Heat

I prefer to think of this as helping the student in question.


101 posted on 02/17/2005 5:41:38 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ann Coulter for Cornell Trustee:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344035/posts)
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To: Cold Heat
(Actually, this is a general reply, not directed at Cold Heat) I didn't hear Hannity's show yesterday, so I can't speak to the fact of whether or not he intended to insult every Freeper. I will say, however, that this site is very respected on other conservative message boards I've been on. I believe there are a lot of us who log on here because we know we'll get the low-down on what's going on in politics as well as major news stories. I for one don't post much because I learn more by reading. I am a conservative. For the most part, I agree with the Freeper view of politics. I have read a few posts that were very "fringe", but that's the exception.

With all due respect, I think some of the comments regarding Hannity are rather grade school like and this thread actually caught me off guard. Well, if nothing else, at least now I know you all are human and not just political machines!

Now get back to the business of keeping us silent conservatives informed :)

Thanks!
102 posted on 02/17/2005 5:42:18 PM PST by Iowannabe
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To: Cold Heat

"Ya can't prevent people from expressing anger over it,"

And is Hannity accorded the same to express his anger....to hold him blameless?

To excuse some here for their anger yet not excuse Sean for apparently the same cause of anger.....well, seems one sided?


103 posted on 02/17/2005 5:42:39 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: Smartaleck

He made a global attack on FR the other day, and as I said, I defended him strongly on threads.

People claimed he was weak in style, but I think the last couple of days shows he is weak on substance.

Like I said, look for about at least a 10% rating slip for all thinks Hannity and this may start a further dipping trend.

Just my opinion S., he did permanent damage to himself the last two days.


104 posted on 02/17/2005 5:43:41 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: old-ager

I don't understand his remarks. I visit FR almost everyday and I don't know what he's talking about. I don't notice anyone bashing Hannity.


105 posted on 02/17/2005 5:45:30 PM PST by virgil
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This student needs support, no doubt.


106 posted on 02/17/2005 5:45:39 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: jasoncann
I couldn’t help thinking that even my Palestinian high school teachers had never tried to silence me or put me in therapy.

Sounds more like the old Soviet Union to me.

107 posted on 02/17/2005 5:49:38 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: Smartaleck
I can't help but notice that you are stepping all over the place, trying to justify what he said.

the fact is, that he tied it to HIS web forum and said that it was better there and that FR eats it's own.

Well, that ain't Kosher, but he can do what he likes to get membership. We are not a fee based operation and depend solely on donations. We are not for profit, and he is a for profit organization.

As I said, he can do as he likes, and so can I.

108 posted on 02/17/2005 5:50:32 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: old-ager

Agreed! Let's do some good.


109 posted on 02/17/2005 5:53:14 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: Smartaleck
To excuse some here for their anger yet not excuse Sean for apparently the same cause of anger

Ya did not read my last. I said I did not approve of some of the comments made in anger, but that I nor anyone else can stop that. We are free to express certain sentiments. I did not lash out like some did, but those posts were a minority of the whole, as per usual.

110 posted on 02/17/2005 5:55:32 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Cold Heat

"Hannity asks Freepers for help..."

I took it to mean for the student....not for Sean?


111 posted on 02/17/2005 5:59:33 PM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: judicial meanz

How about practicing psychology without a license?


112 posted on 02/17/2005 6:00:21 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: Alex Marko
I smell a rat.

When I read the assignment I remembered back to my high school in Kuwait. Many of my teachers were Palestinian;

For one, the Kuwaiti's took a dim view of those who sided w/ Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War...and that included the PLO and Palestinians. This, according to the Jordan Times:

For the past 10 years, Kuwait has hired teachers for its public schools from Egypt and Syria — both countries sided with Kuwait during the Iraqi invasion of the emirate.... Kuwait relied heavily on Jordanian and Palestinian teachers during the 1970s and 1980s, but following the Gulf war, most of these teachers were forbidden from returning to their jobs.

Link

And, for another: Most of all we remember our one-week-old baby cousin who died while the Iraqi invaders were stealing incubators from hospitals to sell them for profit.

I don't think this was ever proven & there is some evidence that it was a hoax.

Color me skeptical.

113 posted on 02/17/2005 6:01:43 PM PST by elli1
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To: Smartaleck
LOL! What kinda IQ do you think I have?

I know that!

I stated, and quite clearly that I want nothing to do with Shaun Hannity in the future.

I have all the info I need to help this student and was aware of it on the 25th I believe.

I was making a point that was apparently too subtle for you.

114 posted on 02/17/2005 6:04:32 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Alex Marko; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; ...
I heard it, it was an explanation, not an apology.

Sean has several times made disparaging comment s about us, and I just brushed it off, but yesterday, when he made the comments he no longer comes here and THEN promotes his own website, promoting HIS website by slamming us, that is hypocrisy.

I listened to his show everyday regardless of what he said previously that was negative about us, but, Today I only listened to hear what he would say about FR.

He had on someone named Mike who sounded like HE was apologizing for FR to Sean...when it is Sean who owes us an apology.

It is Freepers who promoted FOX news, not Sean's listening audience, it is US who got people to watch, listen, and write to our cable companies to put FOX news on the cable systems of our towns. It was FREEPES who were the FOX Fanatics FIRST, we are the ones who posted fliers even in places telling people to watch FOX news, remember one thread on that? People actually went around and told people to watch FOX NEWS! FREEPERS did that...Kooks according to Sean, though.

Sean has had MANY of his shows recapped here with comments from guests, pictures from his show, Sean was congratulated innumerable times, his defense of our country, our President, and our Military, and yet, he chooses to dis us openly and say that we have become a bunch of kooks?

Well, then it was kooks who defended him, Kooks who recapped his shows, kooks who posted quotes from him, his guests on his show, and bought his books...

I only had 1 major thing against Sean, and that was his and Limbaugh's abandonment of their mantra RULE OF LAW as soon as Bush got the Primary Nod, they stopped calling for Clinton to be prosecuted, and instead said all of us who wanted THE RULE OF LAW to succeed were extremists, and it was Hannity and Limbaugh who taught us the phrase!!

Well, that's gone, all the negatives that I just kept to myself are out now, Hannity is just a Limbaugh wanna-Be who only repeats Limbaugh's talking point s and tries to call it his own research, when the reality is he and the rest of the media get a great majority of their news from FR themselves!

Sean Hannity, you just trashed your base, and then you had the nerve to tell us that we trashed you???

WE WERE THE ONES WHO BROUGHT YOU UP FROM NOTHING!!!

And to make the claim that he got angry when TRIXIE took off?? TRIXIE slammed JimRob with the most vile insults repeatedly, online and in print in magazines if I remember correctly, while JimRob was nothign but quiet and a gentleman in return. Also, TRIXIE's site banned almost all of us right away as soon as we posted something similar to what we did here, so for Sean to claim some moral high ground based on Lucianne Goldberg, he must not know what happened back then, he only heard one side of the story.

As for Connie, I supported Keyes in the primary, too, I dont know what the real reason she left was, but she came back and joined in with us several times after she left, and never openly insulted any of us and openly enjoyed herself when we were all together. I wish her well, but once again, Sean only heard one side of the story!

115 posted on 02/17/2005 6:05:48 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: Smartaleck

Yes fellow freepers...this is help for the student moreso than for Sean.


116 posted on 02/17/2005 6:06:42 PM PST by Alex Marko
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To: Alex Marko
He wants help from us on the fringe?????

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Basically, Hannity can KMIrishA.

117 posted on 02/17/2005 6:11:53 PM PST by Bombardier (That's the life of an outlaw. Tough, ain't it?)
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To: RaceBannon
I enjoyed listening to Sean Hannity last week, and I still enjoy him today. As a matter of fact, I just finished his "Let Freedom Ring" book this evening.

What he did yesterday was downright foolish. Foot-in-mouth disease. I have little doubt he regrets it, too.

118 posted on 02/17/2005 6:15:23 PM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Delphinium
First off, I didn't see any of these aforementioned broadcasts. That said,
The one thing written on on of the posts that stuck with me was that he hadn't "visited" this site in two years.
So if he hadn't, how in the heck would he know if we were fringe or not?
Keeping an open mind . . ..
119 posted on 02/17/2005 6:15:26 PM PST by utahguy (Ya gotta kill it before you grill it: Ted Nugent)
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To: Alex Marko
There are many students who need help from the liberal establishment at colleges.

That is why Horowitz created Students for Academic Freedom, began the push for a academic bill of rights that is currently being circulated and some 20 or more schools now have it.

I am four square behind this,and my son is getting interested in the quest.

Visiting the site will inform you of the work done thus far and the things needed to be done. It is way more than a student web site, and has earned attention from the media. I guess Hannity has picked up the seriousness of it, but Horowitz is the man behind the plan. Not too shabby for about a years work.

120 posted on 02/17/2005 6:19:44 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Alex Marko

Whenever I hear Sean on the radio on 680 now I think, Laura! Isn't she on 620 right now?!


121 posted on 02/17/2005 6:34:26 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: Dog Gone
It was just the fringe kooks that he got tired of

Sean needs some perspective. Compared to the netgroups (especially in the early days), FR is a freakin' tea party. Been on the 'Net for almost twenty years and for my money, the mods on this forum do a very good job maintaining civility without zotting every remotely critical comment.

To quote one of my fave .sigs from many moons ago: "This is the Internet, buckeroo. Wear a cup."

122 posted on 02/17/2005 6:37:51 PM PST by macbee ("Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: bootless

Correct.


Only a licensed Psychiatric MD can make a diagnosis. A counselor can only refer a person for treatment, and not make a formal diagnosis. This may vary from state to state, however.

Good catch.


123 posted on 02/17/2005 6:44:36 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: utahguy
I haven't liked him much since he went so star crazy over Arnold.

Since then, alot of things he does bugs me.
124 posted on 02/17/2005 8:02:32 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: A CA Guy
Like I said, look for about at least a 10% rating slip for all thinks Hannity and this may start a further dipping trend.

This little dust up will result in more people signing up at FR, and a boost in the ratings of Sean's radio and TV show.

Isn't there an old saying that goes, "Any publicity is good publicity, just spell my name right?"

www.freerepublic.comma isn't helpful...

125 posted on 02/17/2005 8:15:02 PM PST by Syncro
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To: Syncro
Have you lost your mind? Negative publicity is good, if only to get more traffic here? Sean has an audience of millions and he has slapped our faces. And he has given fodder to every anti-conservative site on the Internet.
126 posted on 02/17/2005 8:31:12 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: thoughtomator; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; potlatch; Happy2BMe; ntnychik; Smartass; DoughtyOne


Today suddenly Sean became Sean Tancredo on closing the borders

Yet still referred to some mysterious FReepers as making "personal attacks" on him

After all, hiring construction crews of illegal aliens is only "personal" and "private business" -

The Connie Hair and Lucianne diversions did not add up to any apology

Does anyone actually believe Sean has done a quick 180° on illegal aliens and his subliminal Mr. Softee position on immigration?

"Securing our borders is the USA's #1 issue" are words Sean has suddenly taken from Monica Crowley and Michelle Malkin......

Yet even today that thin-skinned "personal attack by some....." blasted back over the airwaves again



"fringe" sounds a lot like "Yaaaaaa!" to me


Once out of the tube......















127 posted on 02/17/2005 8:39:10 PM PST by devolve ( My-WWII-Musical-Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html http://pro.lookingat.us/Vikings.html)
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To: devolve
You do have a way of putting things . .

:~)

128 posted on 02/17/2005 8:44:20 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Long ago and far, far away there once was a shining land they called "America" . . .)
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To: God luvs America
". . .if his criticism was legit I would understand your point- but his criticism was for no other reason then to get people to post over on his site- plain and simple."

Trust me. . .you have not been here long enough to know. . .

129 posted on 02/17/2005 8:53:36 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: Smartaleck
" there are a few that behave in a way that only serves to enforce the liberal stereotype of the right.......mean, mean spirted, hateful.....yadda yadda. Undermines the credibility for the rest."

. . .so true. . .

130 posted on 02/17/2005 8:56:05 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: cricket

Sean brings his personal life to his show everyday. Can you tell me the name of his daughter? I'm just curious.


131 posted on 02/17/2005 9:00:52 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: A CA Guy
"Just my opinion S., he did permanent damage to himself the last two days."

Could be 'FR' is doing the same. . .

132 posted on 02/17/2005 9:07:43 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: cricket

know what?


133 posted on 02/17/2005 9:14:41 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: RaceBannon
"I listened to his show everyday regardless of what he said previously that was negative about us, but, Today I only listened to hear what he would say about FR."

He praised FR. . .recalled fond memories and friendships; many of which he still maintains and values. . .and yes, he is over the carping - done in his name .

No big Sean fan. . .but do not get why some here have made him a pariah. . .the criticism began here. . .entitlted? Sure. . .but Sean is entitled to respond.

Hate to see FR looking lilke aplace where 'dumb and dumber'. . .intersect. . .because one-line criticisms are cheap; AND easy. . .

134 posted on 02/17/2005 9:28:03 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: Alex Marko

lets hankem like with the dude from colorado, hankem with a rope in the town square, hanging is better than swords don't you think, no, I didn't say that did I?, there is alot more to this than just the naive thoughts Americans have about middle easterners, read your history, I have been harping about the mufti and the waffen ss for months, they are here in our colleges, no different from the guy in Iran saying , "death to America" find my lasso, Lassie girl!


135 posted on 02/17/2005 9:34:05 PM PST by Keisha
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To: Alex Marko

lets hankem like with the dude from colorado, hankem with a rope in the town square, hanging is better than swords don't you think, no, I didn't say that did I?, there is alot more to this than just the naive thoughts Americans have about middle easterners, read your history, I have been harping about the mufti and the waffen ss for months, they are here in our colleges, no different from the guy in Iran saying , "death to America" find my lasso, Lassie girl!


136 posted on 02/17/2005 9:34:07 PM PST by Keisha
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To: Conservababe
"Sean brings his personal life to his show everyday. Can you tell me the name of his daughter? I'm just curious."

Nope. . .do not know the name of his wife either; or his dog. . .or cat. . or his son.

So what? He is a pariah because he does not mention the daughters name. . or acknowledge her existance?

Bahwahhhh!, , ,This is where the criticism of Sean just falls off the chart into someting other than legitimate criticism. . . and falls as well, below FR standards . .

Give me substance. . .!!! Nope. . .not here or in any criticism of Sean, thus far. . .on a thread.

137 posted on 02/17/2005 9:38:24 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: God luvs America
"know what?"

It is a place. . .you've been there, right?

138 posted on 02/17/2005 9:41:24 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: Bombardier
Ditto.

He should have used his big damn mouth for good, not bashing a forum that has been such a huge player in political events for over 7 years --- longer than he has. So some people pissed him off; no reason to whine about it on nationwide radio. He should have debated the issue within the forum with whomever he disagreed, if indeed he WAS a member here.

139 posted on 02/17/2005 9:55:39 PM PST by jrewing ("Revenge is never stupid darling - it's the single most satisfying feeling in the world." J.R. Ewing)
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To: Conservababe
Have you lost your mind?

Well yes, many years ago. But that doesn't have anything to do with my comments.

Negative publicity is good, if only to get more traffic here?

I don't know, that's not what I was saying. But you have a point there only you fail to see the positive side of it. If you read all the threads on this subject and look carefully at all the comments you will see that more positive results are coming out of this "negative publicity" than you realize.

I understand this is quite an emotional issue, but in retrospect a few days down the line I think you will understand my post.

Sean has an audience of millions...

Well Good Grief, so does Free Republic! And FR reaches to places where no one has even heard of Fox news or Sean Hannity.

Do you know that almost 10 million people checked out FR on Nov 2, 2004? I imagine Sean and Rush...or their people...were in that multitude.

140 posted on 02/17/2005 10:04:06 PM PST by Syncro
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To: So Cal Rocket
I thought I heard of this case a while ago.

Even if Hannity is behind the power curve on this story, he can bring a large spotlight to this kids plight.

Not everything that shows up on FR gets the attention it deserves. (Some trivial things get way too much attention. ;)
141 posted on 02/17/2005 10:48:04 PM PST by anymouse
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To: Little Pig

But, but...just yesterday, didn't Hannity say FR was a bunch of fringe kooks now?


I definitely missed that! I like Sean. Kinda hard to imagine he said that, but I did hear him today talking about FR...... I just didn't get the drift.


142 posted on 02/17/2005 11:22:13 PM PST by Just Lori (There! I said it!)
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To: EggsAckley
Ok, guys. Let's all just take a little breather, and cool off a bit.... I mean, how many of US, have flown off the handle, and said something, STUPID, like that, that hurt someone, or a group of people WE cared about, and we didn't realize what we had said, "until it was too late"? I AGREE, it was wrong, of Sean, to say what he did. BUT, let's not all just decide to toss him overboard, for ONE bad remark.

Sure, he was wrong, to give the impression, that most of us, at FR, are "fringe kooks", and, he probably didn't really mean it that way. And, he probably thinks of me as a "fringe kook", too, , but still, he IS on our side, and we HAVE to remember that.

Give him another chance. After all, Dick morris is on our side, and just 10 years ago, he was in the CLINTON cabal, as firmly as could be!!
143 posted on 02/17/2005 11:27:12 PM PST by Rca2000 (Helping to swing the swing state of Ohio to "W")
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To: Syncro
Sean has an audience of millions...

Well Good Grief, so does Free Republic! And FR reaches to places where no one has even heard of Fox news or Sean Hannity.

You are mistaken if you think that FR has millions of posters or lurkers.

144 posted on 02/17/2005 11:32:20 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: Conservababe
You are mistaken if you think that FR has millions of posters or lurkers.

Hon, you are mistaken if you think I intimated that. You don't think that over a million people have been an "audience" here?

I was responding to your comment about an audience.

So you are saying that Sean's FR-like forum has millions of lurkers and posters?

145 posted on 02/18/2005 12:28:45 AM PST by Syncro
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To: cricket

How so?


146 posted on 02/18/2005 12:48:54 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy; Smartaleck; All
"How so?"

my response, post #134 and137 (and a few et al's) 'go there'.

I hope you/everyone by now (I actually missed Smartaleck's posting for Jim's post). . .has checked out Jim's response to the controversy. . .

"Keep up the good work Sean! (Hannity) Posted on 02/17/2005 3:15:24 PM CST by Jim Robinson Keep up the good work Sean!" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345465/posts

Thanks Smartaleck. . .

147 posted on 02/18/2005 1:58:54 AM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: Cold Heat

Hannity said....."that FR eats it's own"

Well, at least he was right on that account. :-)


148 posted on 02/18/2005 3:20:49 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: Cold Heat

"I was making a point that was apparently too **subtle** for you."

Oh well.........I didn't fare well with Kerry **nuances** either. :-)


149 posted on 02/18/2005 3:45:22 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: Syncro

"Any publicity is good publicity, just spell my name right?"

YeAh, jUsT spElL mY naMe wRiTE.


150 posted on 02/18/2005 3:58:12 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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