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The UN in Kosovo praises potential war criminal - why?
Transitional Foundation for Peace and Future Research ^ | March 10th, 2005 | Jan Oberg

Posted on 03/11/2005 12:30:11 AM PST by Nennsy

The UN in Kosovo praises
potential war criminal - why?

  

PressInfo # 208

 March 10, 2005

By

Jan Oberg, TFF director

 

Danish diplomat, Søren Jessen-Petersen is the highest authority in Kosovo and SRSG, Special Representative of UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, there. In spite of that, his unconditional embrace of Mr. Ramush Haradinaj, a former leader of the illegal Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) and former prime minister in the non-independent Kosovo and now indicted for war crimes by the Hague Tribunal seems to raise no eyebrows in any capital, media or at the UN in New York.

All relevant links here.

 

Mr. Søren Jessen-Petersen's embrace of Haradinaj

In a statement on Haradinaj's resignation Jessen-Petersen praises him for his "dynamic leadership, strong commitment and vision" and says that thanks to that "Kosovo is today closer than ever before to achieving its aspirations in settling its future status." He calls him his "close partner and friend." In spite of the fact that the Prime Minister had no choice but to voluntarily go to the Hague, Kofi Annan's representative praises him for the "dignity and maturity" he has shown in deciding to do so. He also expresses his understanding of the "shock and anger" the people of Kosovo must feel at this development, "people" meaning of course only the Albanians and hardly the Serbs, Romas and other minorities living there.

Søren Jessen-Petersen continues in a paragraph that deserves to be quoted at length:

"The decision announced by Mr. Haradinaj to co-operate with the Tribunal, despite his firm conviction of innocence, and although painful for him, his family, Kosovo and for his many friends and partners, including in UNMIK, is at the same time an example of Kosovo's growing political maturity as a responsible member of the international community. I trust that Mr. Haradinaj will again be able to serve Kosovo to whose better future he has sacrificed and contributed so much."

Unless the SRSG implies that Haradinaj's going to the Hague Tribunal is to serve Kosovo - which is unlikely given other parts of the statement - he here expresses his belief in Mr. Haradinaj's innocence and his return to be of service to Kosovo. Isn't that sensational? One wonders whether he SRSG implies that the indictment by the Hague Tribunal is a mistake or not serious? Does Kofi Annan's representative show a certain disdain for the Tribunal that was set up in 1993 by the very organisation he represents?

Is he unaware of what kind of organisation KLA was and that, at an early stage, it was considered a terrorist organisation by high-level US diplomats? Does he consider every and each charge against Haradinaj raised by Serbia (of which Kosovo is a part) sheer inventions? Has he not had access to intelligence information about the activities of KLA units at the time when Haradinaj was a hard-line extremist with a gun in his hand? Has he never heard anyone talk about these things in Kosovo? Or does he carelessly ignore it all and believes that his dear friend Haradinaj was constitutionally unable to do anything bad back in the 1990s? All relevant links here.

It goes without saying anyone shall be considered non-guilty until proven guilty. So too Haradinaj. But "trusting" that he is 100% innocent and will return to Kosovo is to make a political point beyond that. And, mind you, no international diplomat and few media ever respected the mentioned principle when it comes to Milosevic or other people indicted by the Tribunal.

The full text of the Tribunal's indictment is found here

The shorter version of the indictment - press release

 

Does the international community's fear of failure explain this sympathy?

Mr. Søren Jessen-Petersen is neither naïve nor inexperienced. So two explanations are left: A) His cosy chat about his potential war crimes friend is what he has been told by some participant in the greater scheme of things to say; it is not Kofi Annan whose own statement was much more careful. This explanation can not be ruled out. Or B) that this is an example of the shabbiness that has come to define the international community's conflict-management policies in Kosovo. Why so?

Because it is a manifest conflict-resolution and peace-building failure. Six years after NATO's bombing and all the implicit promises given to the Albanian side about independence, Albanian hardliners and many ordinary Albanians want the international community to deliver very soon. Unfortunately, there is no viable solution in sight. Albanian patience, for very good reasons, is running out. I know from my visits to the province that no observer there dare rule out that we could witness anything from localised riots to warfare if the Albanians do not see progress in the direction of formal independence. And who is going to grant Kosovo that? Mr. Clinton and Madeleine Albright? The International Crisis Group - a near-governmental organisation that now runs a campaign for Kosovo's independence with its pro-Albanian lobbyists and NATO bombing advocates? Or the UN Security Council - but that won't be able to. Carving out provinces and make them states by bombing is a bit too much for those who have secessionist provinces themselves.

The international community, to put it crudely, is afraid of ending up facing by and large the same challenges from their post-1999 friends as Belgrade leaders did, just much worse because, after all, Milosevic never promised Kosovo any kind of independence.

 

The international community in general and the Security Council in particular cannot get its acts together, except in one regard because it helps cover up its own failure: blame Belgrade for everything going wrong the last 10 years and praise the Albanians in the role as innocent victims. Such is the political psychology behind the headlines and the statements: Side with one and try anyhow to look like an impartial mediator and negotiation leader. Well, that Jessen-Petersen can no longer be. His statements is a Himalayan mistake from the point of view of building trust with the Serbs and other minorities in Kosovo and with Belgrade. And contrary to what he and many others seem to believe, no sustainable solution to Kosovo's problems can be found without them.

 

The differences between Serbs and other indicted people

Serb President Milosevic was thrown out by his own people in a miraculous non-violent action. The people rose against their own leader, something the Croats, Bosniaks or Albanians never even contemplated to express their contempt, if any, for their own leaders' manipulations, corruption, militarism, nepotism, nationalism and the shame they brought over their own people. Then Serbian Prime Minister Zoran Djindic got nothing of what he was allegedly promised by the West for delivering Milosevic to the Hague; rather, his action is likely to have been one of the reasons why he was murdered.

Within the last few months, six high-level Serb officers have accepted, like Haradinaj, to go to the Hague. No international praise for them. Instead one hears the mantra that Belgrade must deliver Karadzic and Mladic. Does anyone seriously believe that NATO have not been able for 10 years to find them in Bosnia or that NATO states do not have such intelligence that they know where they are? Belgrade is constantly told that they must be in Serbia and that Belgrade must cooperate with the Hague Tribunal to get any help and see the door to EU integration open just a little. This is as bizarre as can be. CIA and FBI people have been invited by the Belgrade authorities to find them in Serbia. For about a year they have been unable to. Could it be that someone wants to avoid arresting them and have them as a card to play against Belgrade?

Be this as it may, let's remember two things: First, that "balkanisation" is a much too nice term for the unprincipled games played in that region by the international community during the last 15 or so years. Secondly, Mr. Søren Jessen-Petersen has offered the world a new distinction, namely that between our good, friendly potential war criminals who deserve our sympathy for accepting the law - and the others who, doing the same, deserve no praise.

One wonders how Kofi Annan feels about his representative's embrace of a man indicted for war crimes at the UN Tribunal? We don't know but he has reasons to hope that no leading daily will begin to investigate the cosy day-to-day co-operation between the UN and the Albanian extremists - and Haradinaj is not the only one - in the Kosovo province since 1999.


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KEYWORDS: balkans; haradinaj; kosovo; un; unmik

1 posted on 03/11/2005 12:30:12 AM PST by Nennsy
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; joan; Jane_N; Destro; DTA; mark502inf; Alex Marko; FormerLib; Honorary Serb; ...

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2 posted on 03/11/2005 12:31:07 AM PST by Nennsy (www.kosovo.com/forum/)
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To: Nennsy



Press Statement
Richard Boucher, Spokesman
Washington, DC
March 8, 2005



Indictment of Ramush Haradinaj


The United States welcomes Ramush Haradinaj’s decision to resign from his Prime Minister post, and his expressed plan to go voluntarily to The Hague. His actions demonstrate his deep concern for the future of Kosovo and its people.

The United States and the international community remain committed to supporting the development of Kosovo’s institutions in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 1244 and to the continued implementation of the "Standards for Kosovo." Ensuring that the rule of law extends to all citizens is an essential component of the Standards.

2005 is an important year for the aspirations of the people of Kosovo. In order to receive a positive assessment from the Comprehensive Review later this year and to begin a process to determine its future status, Kosovo must preserve peace and continue to work to implement the Standards. The people of Kosovo will enjoy the full support of the United States in those efforts. Violence will not be tolerated and will have negative consequences for the outcome of the review and for Kosovo’s future. We will continue to work with Kosovo’s provisional government on these issues.


The United States remains committed to supporting the work of the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia. We call upon all parties in Kosovo and throughout the Balkans to cooperate with the Tribunal, including apprehending and transferring all indictees to The Hague, as a prerequisite for full integration into Euro-Atlantic institutions. We urge all individuals indicted by the Tribunal to act with dignity and in accordance with their obligations in reporting to the Tribunal without further delay.


3 posted on 03/11/2005 3:01:34 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: Nennsy

PRESS RELEASE


UNITED STATES OFFICE PRISTINA
Office of Public Affairs
Arberia/Dragodan, Nazim Hikmet 30, Pristina 38000
TEL: (038) 549 516 FAX: (038) 548 615

Tuesday, March 8 2005


Statement by the Chief of Mission
[Pristina, USOP] - I thank former PM Haradinaj for his statement earlier today, announcing his resignation and intention to travel to the Hague to defend himself against the indictment brought by the ICTY. Mr. Haradinaj will now have the chance to defend himself in front of the world, and I know he is well prepared to do so.

The U.S. supports the ICTY and calls upon all parties - in Kosovo and elsewhere in the region - to cooperate fully with the Tribunal. This is a test of a society’s commitment to the rule of law.

U.S. policy toward Kosovo remains unchanged. We are committed to the standards review in mid-2005, and, if that review is positive to begin a discussion on final status.

This moment represents a challenge for Kosovo’s democratic institutions and its people. I look forward to working with the Provisional Government, and a new Prime Minister fully committed to making progress on standards.


4 posted on 03/11/2005 3:03:53 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

You see Mark, I don't really get it. How can US Government, or UNMIK praise someone charged with rape, murder, etc?
For US, am not that surprised. After all he was navigating NATO/US planes during bombing of Serbia, but for God's sake he was killing civilians.

All this bla, bla, bla, "he cares about his people, he sacrifices himself for Kosovo" and rest of the crap, is really making me sick. HE WAS KILLING CIVILIANS OF ALL ETHINC GROUPS. Is this making a person a HERO???

Has world gone mad????

At least world has openly shown which values really matter.
Hypocrites.


5 posted on 03/11/2005 4:33:32 AM PST by Nennsy (www.kosovo.com/forum/)
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To: mark502inf

Jessen-Petersen under pressure after calling Haradinaj a friend (Koha)

Koha Ditore quotes a news broadcast of KTV as saying that quotes unnamed sources as saying that the Contact Group is exerting pressure on UNMIK chief Søren Jessen-Petersen for calling Haradinaj a friend. According to the TV station, the pressure of CG could result in his resignation.

At 12:00hrs the SNC and Association of Serbian Municiplaities to hold a press conference after raising initiave over Petersen's replacement.


6 posted on 03/11/2005 4:48:21 AM PST by Nennsy (www.kosovo.com/forum/)
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To: mark502inf

Denmark puts forward Kosovo UN chief for UNHCR
COPENHAGEN (AFX) - The Danish government has put forward Soren Jessen-Petersen, the head of the UN mission in Kosovo, to be the next United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), the foreign ministry said.
The headhunt is on for a new UNHCR after former refugees
chief and Dutch former prime minister Ruud Lubbers resigned last month after details emerged from an internal enquiry into sexual harassment allegations.


What irony, if it is to be true? To be a Commissioner for Refugees. the man who is wipping over a criminal's departure to the prison cell? Mourning over the man who was killing people who became refugees?!

Lord, have mercy for our mental health.


7 posted on 03/11/2005 4:49:41 AM PST by Nennsy (www.kosovo.com/forum/)
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To: Nennsy
The UN in Kosovo praises potential war criminal - why?

Its the UN! What do you expect boys and girls?!?!? The UN never saw a dictator or war criminal that they didn't love.

8 posted on 03/11/2005 6:13:52 AM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: Nennsy; mark502inf

Kofi Annan, UNSEC. Tainted with conduct during Rwanda genocide and Iraq Food for Oil scam. Terrorist supporter.

Louise Arbour, UN High Commissioner for human rights. Tainted with Rwanda genocide investigation coverup and her track record while ICTY prosecutor. Terrorist supporter

Soren Jessen-Petersen, UN High Commissioner for refugees. During his tenure, more than 200,000 Rwandan Hutu refugees dissapeared without trace in Congo, pressumably slaughtered. No UN investigation, case closed. Terrorist supporter according to his own account.

It is evident what kind of people are allowed to take UN top positions. People who can be easily leashed because of their previous criminal conduct.

In other time, Arbour, Annan and Jessen-Petersen would be locked up with the keys thrown away. Today, such deplorable individuals give us lectures on human decency, morality and humanity.

This is as repugnant as having OBL being elected as a chairman of Lower Manhattan Development Corporation.

9 posted on 03/11/2005 6:25:52 AM PST by DTA (Mr. Bush, tear down this ICTY scam!)
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To: Nennsy; mark502inf
Haradinaj's thugs sold Semtex to investigators posing as terrorists.

Text of investigator's letter:

"So Denis MacShane believes it was "very brave" of indicted war criminal Ramush Haradinaj to give himself up to a UN tribunal (Kosovo government falls, March 9). Haradinaj, as Mr MacShane knows, was a senior commander of the Kosovo Liberation Army, which was responsible for sickening atrocities against both Serb and Albanian civilians. Haradinaj and his followers were backed by western governments during this time.

I have witnessed the true nature of Haradinaj's men. During an investigation into the international arms trade for Channel 5 and the Sunday Mirror, senior KLA veterans who claimed they took their orders from "Ramush" sold a huge cache of Semtex plastic explosives to myself and other members of an undercover team. When they were told the Semtex could be used in terrorist attacks against targets in the UK, their response was to offer us rocket launchers . The men responsible are now dead or imprisoned. The weapons are under UN control.

The UN governor of Kosovo says he has lost a "friend and partner" in Haradinaj. The UN should be more cautious about the company they keep.

Dominic Hipkins
London "

10 posted on 03/11/2005 6:28:18 AM PST by pythagorean
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To: Nennsy
>>>>>>What irony, if it is to be true? To be a Commissioner for Refugees. the man who is wipping over a criminal's departure to the prison cell? Mourning over the man who was killing people who became refugees?!<<<<<

May God have mercy on Serbs if this animal becomes Commissioner for refugees.

After Rwanda genocide, hundreds of thousands of Hutus fled to neighboring Congo. Over 200, 000 were missing, presumably killed but there was no enquiry by UN and case is closed. This scumbag was in charge.

11 posted on 03/11/2005 6:34:00 AM PST by DTA (Mr. Bush, tear down this ICTY scam!)
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To: DTA

Maybe that's why he's wipping over Haradinaj. He tends to have more understanding for prosecutor than for victim.


12 posted on 03/11/2005 6:51:06 AM PST by Nennsy (www.kosovo.com/forum/)
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To: pythagorean
The semtex story was posted on FReerepublic in 2003--here's what I said at the time ; story excerpts in italics & my comments interspersed:

So an Albania gangster sold 30 pounds of explosive for £10,000. Kind of small-time compared to his Slavic neighbors to the west:

And in neighbouring Montenegro, on the Adriatic coast's version of the Costa Del Crime, another war criminal was selling death on an industrial scale. The man, known as Vesko - a former bodyguard of Serbian warlord Arkan - offered to supply us with 20 rocket-propelled grenades, 20 shoulder-fired missiles and 20 Spider machine guns used by the SAS.

and to the east:

In Belgrade, the capital of nearby Serbia, the local Mafia emailed us to offer a cache of anti-tank missiles, Kalashnikovs, a mortar and illegal landmines for £50,000.

and to the north:

In neighbouring Croatia we bought a machine gun and a Walther PPK pistol.

Well, actually the Croats were pretty small-time even compared to the Albanians. Perhaps all the Croatian Semtex was expended fighting the Serbs.

But we won him over by playing on one of his weaknesses...he is a huge fan of Irish rock band U2. He couldn't wait to deal with us when we promised him one of the band's CDs - which we had signed with a fake message from lead singer Bono.

Now that part made sense—Semtex can be rolled into little plastic balls and stuffed into the ears in order to block out offensive noise.

… we arrived in Kosovo posing as members of the Real IRA… Our first contact was with a Mafia arms dealer …"I can give you enough Semtex for a small war. Do you need it for terrorism?"

OK, what do you think is the motivation at work here: “A curse on the flaccid moustache of the pork-eating Yankee colonialist Crusaders and their Zionist puppets in Belgrade” OR “Show me the money”?

We next met Sadkutz in a Mafia-run brothel called The Massage Club

After a hard day of jihadism, what could be more relaxing than a “massage”? Oh those Islamic fundamentalists! Who says they don’t know how to have fun? Let’s see—brothels and illegal arms deals; is Pristina with the Albanians more like Kabul under the Taliban? Riyadh with the Wahabbis? Tehran under the mullahs? Caves with Bin Laden? Or…or…or…Belgrade under Milosevic-BINGO!!!!

13 posted on 03/11/2005 7:32:41 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
So you're saying it was "OK" and since that it was small amount that it was no big deal.
14 posted on 03/11/2005 7:45:05 AM PST by montyspython
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To: pythagorean
Well, if Haradinaj is guilty of the things he is accused of, then he should go to jail. The positive comments about him from the US & the UN & OSCE etc are primarily because he immediately resigned, told the Kosovar Albanians to stay calm, and turned himself in.

As to the SRSG and Haradinaj being friends, they worked closely together and by all accounts got a heckuva lot more done in the past few months than any previous SRSG or Kosovo politician. Jessen-Petersen is probably sincerely grateful and they may well have become personal friends. Irrespective of that, you shouldn't "go native" and when speaking as the SRSG he should not have made comments that call into question his objectivity.

Above's a photo of Haradinaj and his wife--I had heard once he had a KLA girl-friend--if that's her then maybe those long winter nights hiding in the hills from the Serbs weren't so hard to take. No such bennies in the detention facility at the Hague.

15 posted on 03/11/2005 7:58:00 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: montyspython
So you're saying it was "OK" and since that it was small amount that it was no big deal.

Nope. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in ignoring--in the same story--the even larger arms dealings offered up by Serbian gangsters next door in Serbia and Montenegro.

16 posted on 03/11/2005 8:11:18 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

Arkan was not a PM.


17 posted on 03/11/2005 8:29:18 AM PST by montyspython
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To: Nennsy
You see Mark, I don't really get it. How can US Government, or UNMIK praise someone charged with rape, murder, etc?

Nennsy, like I told Pythag up above, the positive comments about him from the US & the UN & OSCE etc are primarily because he immediately resigned, told the Kosovar Albanians to stay calm, and turned himself in. As you know, it could have been a lot different if he had refused to go or made some kind of rabble-rousing rant inciting the Albanians to resist. Regardless of what he did in the past, he did the responsible thing this time.

18 posted on 03/11/2005 8:37:10 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: montyspython
Arkan was not a PM

And neither was Haradinaj when that story was written.

Haradinaj's alleged connection to a £10,000 deal for explosives is pretty small potatoes compared to the biggest illegal arms dealer in recent Balkans history--Slobodan Milosevic. His gangster dealings made him filthy rich; partly as a result of his sanction-evading trade with Iraq. Slobo & his wife combined to be the biggest political recipients of Saddam's oil bribes in Europe. The Yugo Socialist Party received vouchers for 1,000,000 barrels and the Yugo Left party received 9.5 million; those organizations are headed by Mr. and Mrs. Milosevic, respectively.

19 posted on 03/11/2005 9:13:09 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
Arkan was also not the recipient of US military support.

Box cutters are small potatoes as well Mark, but the results of their implementation were gargantuan in scope.

20 posted on 03/11/2005 9:45:22 AM PST by montyspython
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To: montyspython
Arkan was also not the recipient of US military support.

OK, but so what?

21 posted on 03/11/2005 10:35:06 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: montyspython
Mark's comments reminded me on this story here....:

US 'covered up' for Kosovo ally

Spin it Mark......THE GOOD-CRIMINAL-BAD-CRIMINAL-WHEEL...!!!

22 posted on 03/11/2005 11:32:50 AM PST by dj_animal_2000
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To: mark502inf
Ergo, supposed US ally attempted to sell explosives to terrorists who mean to do us harm.

And you are trying to downplay it.

23 posted on 03/11/2005 1:31:10 PM PST by montyspython
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To: montyspython
supposed US ally attempted to sell explosives to terrorists who mean to do us harm.

So 18 months ago some gangsters selling explosives claimed that they worked for "Ramush," it was published in the paper, and with all the US police & military we have in Kosovo, no action was taken. Either there was no real connection with Haradinaj, or no connection could be proven, or there was a connection and Rumsfeld & Powell decided that selling explosives to terrorists was OK by them. You can choose which explanation you wish to believe--I'm going with one of the first two.

As to who in the Balkans was really selling arms and ammunition to those who would do us harm, the answer to that can be read here: Yugoslavia's Arms Ties to Iraq Draw U.S. Scrutiny.

And the Slobo-Saddam mutual admiration society meeting minutes are posted here: Serbia, Iraq want united anti-U.S. front.

24 posted on 03/11/2005 2:42:38 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: montyspython
I bet, Mark has an explanation for every behavior of Americas "allies", ahhhhmmm especially Albanians.....

Let's test him:

Captured militants are from Qatar, Albania and Somalia

PESHAWAR: The four foreign militants captured in the military operation in a border village in North Waziristan on March 5 include one each from Qatar, Albania, Somalia and Tajikistan.

Official sources told The News that the four men, along with seven others who are Pakistanis, were being interrogated at a military station. The sources said one of the two foreigners killed in action belonged to Sudan. The other man had not been conclusively identified but he could either be an Arab national or Chechen. It is the first time that information about the identity of the militants who were killed or captured in an operation has been provided to the media.

Elite troops took part in the raid on a compound in Dewgar, a village near Saidgai in North Waziristan tribal agency, in the early hours last Saturday. The village is near the border with Afghanistan’s Khost province. Across the border is the complex of six former Afghan Mujahideen training camps in Zhawara village. Osama bin Laden held his famous press conference in one of these camps in May 1998 and declared "Jihad" against the US and Israel from the platform of the International Islamic Front for Jihad Against the Crusaders and Jews. In August the same year, the camps were attacked by the US with Tomahawk cruise missiles but bin Laden and his top lieutenants had already left the place.

Unlike past military operations in North Waziristan and South Waziristan in which excessive force aided by helicopters was used, the latest action involved less number of troops and choppers. A military official, requesting anonymity, described it as a low-key but swift operation backed by strong intelligence.

The compound used as a hideout by the militants belonged to a Wazir tribesman named Ghazal. He too was netted along with another tribesman Noor Ayaz. Also arrested were three men from Karachi and one each from Peshawar and Tank districts. Some of the Pakistanis who were captured reportedly confessed that they had come for "Jihad." The four foreign militants caught in the operation belong to countries located in three continents, ie Qatar, Albania, Somalia and Tajikistan.

Two persons were injured in the raid. One was a woman belonging to the homeowner Ghazal’s family. The troops seized three rocket-launchers, 28 grenades, two RPG-7 rockets, eight sub-machineguns, one light machinegun and five anti-tank mines.

Link

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This news are from 2 days ago....

25 posted on 03/11/2005 8:41:51 PM PST by dj_animal_2000
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Great operation by the Paks. I've worked with them before and their strength was set-piece, well-rehearsed operations. They floundered somewhat when it came to rapidly reacting to late-breaking intelligence, but it appears they are getting better.

As to the Albanian they captured, he went over to the dark side and needs to be treated as such. However, he no more represents Albania than the various American & Aussie & German & UK Al Qaida we've captured represent our country and its people and policies.

People go against the grain sometimes. Look at Nennsy, our Kosovar Serb. She & her family sheltered Albanians from harm in their own home while the Serb national policy under Milosevic was to ethnically cleanse the Albanians from Kosovo.

OK, let's recap the "US ally" status for Serbia. Milosevic was an ally of Saddam and Serbia was arming Iraq; Milosevic and other Serb politicians were recipients of Saddam's oil voucher money; and Serbia fought four wars against four different opponents in the last 15 years causing death & destruction & regional instability and forcing three U.S. administrations to devote our attention and diplomatic & military resources to the area to prevent worse problems. Serbia is not our ally.

Now for Albania. Here are some excerpts from Condi Rice's web-site:

"Albania has been a steadfast supporter of U.S. policy in Iraq, and one of only four nations to contribute troops to the combat phase of Operation Enduring Freedom."

"Albania enjoys friendly and cooperative bilateral relations with the U.S. Pro-U.S. sentiment is widespread among the population."

"In 2003, Albania and the U.S. signed and ratified a number of agreements, including ... the Promotion of Defense and Military Relations; ... and an Agreement regarding the non-surrender of persons to the International Criminal Court. The U.S. strongly supports Albania's EU and NATO membership goals."

Prime Minister Fatos Nano was an early supporter--as he announced on January 29, 2003; prior to the Iraq War: We wish that we be worthy to the United States through all ways and are ready to join the coalition, like your friends and allies.

And then there's:

Secretary Rumsfeld looks pleased as he shakes the hand of Albanian Prime Minister Nano. Rumsfeld was visiting Tirana to thank the Albanians for their contributions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Ambassador Satos Tarisa (April 2004): We're the most pro-U.S. nation in Europe, and we're in Iraq for the long haul.

Hopefully that helps you figure out who is really America's ally and who is not.

26 posted on 03/12/2005 4:38:26 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: dj_animal_2000
And then there's:

Albania To Send More Soldiers To Iraq

27 posted on 03/12/2005 5:06:20 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: montyspython

See.....monty.....told ya....

Our serbophobic spinmaster did it again...



28 posted on 03/12/2005 9:20:28 AM PST by dj_animal_2000
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To: mark502inf
Nice "allys" you have there....

INTERPOL Testimony on International Crime

29 posted on 03/12/2005 10:43:24 AM PST by dj_animal_2000
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To: mark502inf

Serbia would've sent a bunch of pro troops had somebody asked its Gov't. After all, Serbia is sending troops to Haiti. It's an UN operation, and I don't think Serbian soldiers should ever set foot over the borders of the Republic...unless they're kicking the invaders' ass back to their homeland, and are forced to cross the border.


30 posted on 03/12/2005 1:46:48 PM PST by Banat ("You've got two empty 'alves of coconut, and you're banging 'em together!")
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To: Banat
We would have happily accepted Serbia's troops in Afghanistan - all we noted was that we'd vet those troops for war criminals.

And there the matter died, only to be resurrected occaisionally by posters like yourself who have forgotten why Serb troops and NATO or American military operations are incompatible.

As to whether Serb troops actually make it to MINUSTAH, we'll just have to wait and see, though as long as Serbia remains in non-compliance with UN resolutions regarding the ICTY, I seriously doubt it.

31 posted on 03/12/2005 3:04:42 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: mark502inf

This guy doesn't deserve so much praise for surrendering to the Hague. He didn't surrender because he is being cooperative, but because he had no other choice with 20,000 or whatever KFOR troops there who would have arrested him had he not gone willingly.


32 posted on 03/12/2005 6:02:58 PM PST by Decombobulator
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To: Nennsy; mark502inf; DTA; montyspython; dj_animal_2000
Surely the UN will pour even more lavish praise on the next prominent Kosovo criminal to be indicted after Haradinaj. And there will be even more empty promises for "independence" so that the clan-loyal mobs are kept at bay. No matter how loudly the Soros - ICG enterprises is screaming for "independence", both Bushies and EUcrats have realized that such a scenario is politically and economically not feasible and would only serve as a boon to the thriving international organized crime of ethnic Albanian clan-based gangs. The EUcrats are apparently using ICTY in an attempt to softly dismantle the KLA/mafia power structures. Balkan governmental tokens of subservience by sending indictees to the Hague or troops to Iraq, Afghanistan and Mars cannot change these fundamental policies.
33 posted on 03/13/2005 8:56:10 AM PST by pythagorean
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To: dj_animal_2000
No, no explanations, just excuses.
34 posted on 03/14/2005 11:03:05 AM PST by montyspython
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To: dj_animal_2000; montyspython

Yep, by attempting to associate every Serbian alive with Milosevic (who the Serbs handed over, huh?), dimwit tries to explain away the ethnic cleansing of the Kosovo Serbs and the destruction of hundreds of their churches, cemetaries, and monasteries.

Can there by any doubt as to which master he truly serves?


35 posted on 03/14/2005 11:28:03 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: mark502inf

Nice strawman.


36 posted on 03/14/2005 2:55:05 PM PST by montyspython
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