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To: thoughtomator
I'm not so sure this is a win. If a felon can't be trusted with his rights, then shouldn't that person still be imprisoned? I don't see any Constitutional provision for citizens with partial rights.

Here is one.

Amendment XIII

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

The part that says "except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted" means that a convicted criminal can be judicially enslaved (made a slave).

If a convicted criminal can have all rights removed, by being reduced to the status of property, that criminal can have any and all other rights selectively removed.

39 posted on 04/09/2005 5:18:26 PM PDT by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: LibKill

Guess you're right. If a person can be convicted of a crime, they become the slave of the state.

Amazing how widespread that has become.


41 posted on 04/09/2005 8:49:49 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: LibKill

On second thought... if someone's 2nd Amendment rights can be taken away upon conviction of a crime, why can't their 8th Amendment rights be similarly removed? Yet if the 8th Amendment rights can be removed upon conviction of a crime, then the entire amendment is meaningless!


42 posted on 04/09/2005 9:19:40 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: LibKill
The part that says "except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted" means that a convicted criminal can be judicially enslaved (made a slave).

I do believe that phrase applies to involuntary servitude, not to slavery. Almost the same thing, but an involuntary servant is not property, a slave is.

47 posted on 04/10/2005 8:04:31 AM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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