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To: Sola Veritas
"Hey, I want this studied too! Its only fair to include all theories, you know..."

Cute but you miss the point. I don't believe that anyone is trying to force Biblical Creationism on school children in this Kansas case. That is a "straw-man" constructed by dogmatic evolutionists.

Sorry to disagree, but I think that is entirely the point. A number of their websites (try a Google search) clearly state that ID is a "camel's nose under the tent" and a "wedge" to get creationism into the curricula.

13 posted on 05/12/2005 5:50:49 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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To: Coyoteman

"A number of their websites (try a Google search) clearly state that ID is a "camel's nose under the tent" and a "wedge" to get creationism into the curricula."

You statement is untrue. No true "ID" proponents have an agenda of getting "creationism" taught in the schools. Some "creationists" may be attempting to "ride the backs" of ID proponents to do the "camel's nose" trick. However, that does not make the proponents of ID guilty of a hidden agenda. I am a creationist, but I clearly distance myself from ID proponents. I strictly interpret scripture; a literalist unless the language is obvious metaphor etc. ID proponents do not. They have a more open view of scriptural interpretation.

I think that attempting to paint ID proponents as creationists is an unfair characterization. It insults both ID folks and creationists. The "creationist lite" monocker is an MSM/liberal strawman to descredit a middle of the road position (ID) by painting it as right wing.

BTW - The "camel's nose in the tent" argument has been used by the ACLU and their ilk for years to justify opposing harmless things. Are you in the same class as the ACLU in your reasoning?


19 posted on 05/12/2005 8:24:33 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Coyoteman; Elsie; AndrewC; jennyp; lockeliberty; RadioAstronomer; LiteKeeper; Fester Chugabrew; ...
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such education establishment, and to provide new guards for their future intellectual security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these red states; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of education. (underlined either altered or added to Declaration of Independence text)

I heard this quoted on the movie National Treasure and thought it appropriate.

21 posted on 05/13/2005 7:46:28 AM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways )
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