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Time to Secure our Border Mr. President - (Bush: "Call Vicente and set him straight!")
OPINION EDITORIALS.COM ^ | MAY 16, 2005 | DOUG HAGIN

Posted on 05/17/2005 1:29:41 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Take a moment to consider all of the pressing issues facing America today. There is a war we are waging, and rightfully so, to rid the threat of Islamo-Fascist terror. That might rightfully, be placed right at the very top of our national concerns.

After all tax-cuts, spending, education, and Social Security reform will take a back seat very quickly if terrorists were to strike here in America. So let us agree, for the purpose of this column, to assume the war on terror is the pre-eminent issue facing America.

Now let us examine how the Bush administration has handled this war so far. On the international front, the grade has to be at least an A-minus. Our troops have performed brilliantly, as American servicemen always do. The Bush team has been aggressive and pro-active. They have overturned two pro-terror regimes. Their action has taken the fight to the enemy.

The importance of this aggressive strategy cannot be overstated. This truly is a war where we either choose to fight here or there. As long as we press the enemy, their efforts to strike here will be damaged severely. Already we have killed or captured many terrorist fighters and their leaders. These monsters have never had to face the world’s mightiest military intent on their destruction before. Moreover, make no mistake they are losing this war. As long as our resolve holds, the outcome is assured.

Now that is the good news. There is, however, some bad news to temper the positive. The Bush administration, for all its wonderful actions in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, has, frankly failed rather miserably on border security. Now this assertion might stun some of you, after all, I have been very supportive of President Bush, and I still am.

That support, though, is not open-ended. The border with Mexico has not received the attention or focus it demands. The strength of a nation can be fairly measured by how it is able to control its borders and coasts. Sadly, America, right now, is lacking.

The President has done some things to increase Border Patrol strength. In 2004, America’s Border Patrol apprehended many more illegal aliens than in years past. The increase in manpower, though, is still sorely insufficient. The problem is simple math. There are not enough agents to secure our borders.

This presents a severe security risk. When we consider how tough it would be for a terrorist to make their way across our border and cause havoc here, we soon realize it is excessively easy. President Bush simply, must, do a better job of securing our borders. He has shown very clearly he is not afraid to spend money to fight terrorism overseas, and he should be applauded for that.

He must now show the same willingness to spend whatever it takes to increase the Border Patrol’s manpower. This is a no-brainer Mr. President. To reduce the number of illegal aliens we need to step up and increase our presence on the border.

This goal is not simply a matter of pouring more money into the Border Patrol either. Recently a group of patriotic Americans got together and formed a group called the Minutemen. These people took border security in their own hands. The Minutemen volunteered to stand guard at well-known border jumping spots on the Arizona border. They were effective. There is no doubt that fewer illegal aliens crossed into America. They helped; the border patrol agents welcomed their help.

They behaved admirably, with compassion for those they prevented from entering our nation illegally. This type of citizen action can help tremendously. It must be encouraged by the Bush administration however. The response President Bush gave to the Minutemen was hardly encouraging or supportive. He in fact managed to call them vigilantes. This was hardly an accurate way to describe their volunteer efforts to make America safer.

It is troubling that President Bush would take such a stance on these patriots. He should have been singing their praises and encouraging more Americans to lend a hand. The Minutemen were not taking the law into their own hands. They were, instead, acting in the same heroic manner the original Minutemen did. They stood up for what was right. If more of us did, likewise America would be safer and more secure.

There is another thing our president could do to affect positive change on border security. He needs to talk very clearly to the Mexican government, starting with Mexican President Vicente Fox. President Fox is in dire need of a dressing down and President Bush should give him one.

Recently President Fox has been very critical of our efforts to tighten our borders. This strikes me as strange. Why would the Mexican president not want to help keep his compatriots from leaving his country illegally? Yet President Fox is upset because America is considering a border wall and preventing illegal from obtaining drivers licenses. He has promised to lodge a diplomatic complaint and has threatened to take his case to multilateral bodies.

Exactly who does this man think he is? He uses his military to secure his Southern border, and then bashes us for attempting to secure ours? If I were, President Bush President Fox would receive a not so pleasant phone call. What President Bush should do is tell Fox to help us by securing his side of the border. Not ask, mind you, tell him! The Mexican leader is undermining our national security, this must not go unanswered.

Further organizations like the American Civil Liberties Union, must be set straight. Recently this group announced it was going to be reviewing Border Patrol records from arrests last June. The ACLU claims it is watching out for immigrants’ rights. Excuse me do they not know what the word illegal means?

They are not concerned with national security or border security at the ACLU. They are looking for lawsuits to make their pockets fatter. That this group would undercut our nation’s interests to protect illegal, there is that word again, aliens is beyond any reasonable person. This type of effort severely undercuts the effectiveness and morale of our Border Patrol, and something must be done about it.

Therefore, President Bush, listen to one of your biggest supporters for a moment. Please look towards tighter borders. This is not the time for amnesty plans or guest worker programs. This is not the time to pay softball with foreign leaders who are working against our interests. This is certainly not the time to discourage Americans who care enough to get involved. Now is the time for our president to be as tough on the borders as he is on international terrorists.


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KEYWORDS: 2006; 2006elections; 2006senaterace; aliens; borderguards; borderpatrol; civildefense; drugs; economy; gangs; goodbyemajority; homelandsecurity; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; insurance; mexico; minutemen; ms13; nationalsecurity; outofcontrol; presidentbush; terror; usborder; vicentefox; voterfraud; waronterror
" Now is the time for our president to be as tough on the borders as he is on international terrorists."
1 posted on 05/17/2005 1:29:43 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Amen.


2 posted on 05/17/2005 1:31:13 PM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: CHARLITE

Mexico would be broke in a heartbeat if we completely closed the borders.

We should go ahead and get it over with (shock them into true capitalism)

But we might have a bunch of starving mexicans scrambling up here


3 posted on 05/17/2005 1:31:48 PM PDT by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


4 posted on 05/17/2005 1:39:26 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: CHARLITE

What is the big deal- illegals only take the jobs that legal Mexicans don't want. (sarcasm off)


5 posted on 05/17/2005 1:41:08 PM PDT by 11th Commandment
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To: RockinRight

Smaller government does not mean a reduction in the size of the patrol.


6 posted on 05/17/2005 1:42:41 PM PDT by G-Man 1
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To: RockinRight

Smaller government does not mean a reduction in the size of the patrol.


7 posted on 05/17/2005 1:42:41 PM PDT by G-Man 1
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To: CHARLITE

Mexico is run by drug money as every one knows.


8 posted on 05/17/2005 1:45:04 PM PDT by G-Man 1
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


9 posted on 05/17/2005 1:48:00 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Mr. K
But we might have a bunch of starving mexicans scrambling up here

Ummm...that already happened

10 posted on 05/17/2005 1:48:10 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: CHARLITE

I don't think the President cares about the situation.


11 posted on 05/17/2005 1:51:04 PM PDT by MBB1984
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To: CHARLITE

Don't hold your breath waiting for Bush to do anything about the border problems. You will turn blue and drop dead first. He ain't gonna do a thang.


12 posted on 05/17/2005 1:52:47 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Search and Destroy socialist democrats & their leaders Fat Ted, F'n Kerry & the Beast!)
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To: 11th Commandment
"What is the big deal- illegals only take the jobs that legal Mexicans don't want."

Fabulous comment. If you have Vicente's email address, I suggest that you send your comment to him!

Thanks so much for your input!

Char :)

13 posted on 05/17/2005 2:00:53 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing, with Billery in tow. on a leash.........)
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To: CHARLITE

This is the single biggest disappointment of the Bush administration. No one in the White House has been able to articulate a coherent border/immigration policy. And the RATs are just as bad....this is a political opening you could drive a 747 through and they're so blinded by hatred of conservatives that they can't even see it. I salute the Minutemen and encourage them to persevere.


14 posted on 05/17/2005 2:07:26 PM PDT by clintonh8r (So....Is means testing now a conservative value? Apparently 40% of FReepers think it is.)
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To: RetiredArmy; ThreePuttinDude; Beth528; Billthedrill; HonestConservative; SMARTY; ...
I wish that someone could provide a rational explanation for Bush's inability or unwillingness to ACT on this critical matter. Everything else that he has done and is doing meets with the approval of all of us hard-and-fast conservative Republicans. Why isn't he reading the tea leaves for us with the out-of-control invasion of America by so many millions, that it is inevitable that terrorists will come through in sufficient numbers to create a 2nd 9/11 which could even be worse for America?

Char

15 posted on 05/17/2005 2:08:05 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing, with Billery in tow. on a leash.........)
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To: RetiredArmy
Maybe not, RetiredArmy, but we need to keep yelling via phone, letter, email and congress critter. I can't figure out what W's problem is on this issue.

This should happen now: "There is another thing our president could do to affect positive change on border security. He needs to talk very clearly to the Mexican government, starting with Mexican President Vicente Fox. President Fox is in dire need of a dressing down and President Bush should give him one.

16 posted on 05/17/2005 2:09:46 PM PDT by Luke (CPO, USCG (Ret))
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To: CHARLITE

17 posted on 05/17/2005 2:13:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
I saw a side-by-side photo of this one and the one which Israel has erected. The comparison is pitiful. Israel's is double. It has several yards of free space between each fence, and they are electrified. Why in heaven's name can't the most prosperous, most powerful nation on earth construct the same kind of fence - along our northern and southern borders?

WHY?

Thanks, Travis.

Char

18 posted on 05/17/2005 2:27:03 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing, with Billery in tow. on a leash.........)
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To: CHARLITE

Why?

We CAN.

They WON'T.


19 posted on 05/17/2005 2:31:14 PM PDT by msf92497 (My brain is "twitchy")
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To: CHARLITE
FROM THE ARTICLE..."They behaved admirably, with compassion for those they prevented from entering our nation illegally. This type of citizen action can help tremendously. It must be encouraged by the Bush administration however. The response President Bush gave to the Minutemen was hardly encouraging or supportive. He in fact managed to call them vigilantes. This was hardly an accurate way to describe their volunteer efforts to make America safer."

IMHO...The Minutemen project has brought the priorities of this administration re immigration into focus.

The project was an unqualified success. Citizens taking action to provide increased security and extra eyes and ears for undermanned BP agents fits right in with the volunteer mentality that Bush and HSA have stressed in the aftermath of 9-11, and also in his government / citizen social initiatives. So Bush misjudged this effort..okay...lets give him that. So now what does the admin do?

I judge as significant not only what a politician SAYS, but what he DOESNT SAY.

Since the Minutemen project initial phase has been completed...with Bush and others proved wrong in their assessment of 'vigilantism'...there has been no mention of it by Bush or anyone else in his admin.

Nor has there been any attempt to address the very serious charges that were raised recently regarding Border agents in the affected county being given orders to stand down from enforcement..in an attempt to 'make the numbers look good'...ie...diminish the perceived success of the Minutemen project. This is a serious charge...and deserves a thorough investigation.

The silence of this admin is deafening to me.

It equates to a stone cold political calculation...this bothers me alot.
20 posted on 05/17/2005 2:55:25 PM PDT by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: Mr. K
But we might have a bunch of starving mexicans scrambling up here

No need for them to head up here and starve. Mexico has lots of billionares, including their failed leader Fox. Let them feed their own people.

We can't afford it anymore.

21 posted on 05/17/2005 3:24:32 PM PDT by janetgreen (Minuteman Project = American Patriotism)
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To: CHARLITE
Here is that double picture, which is indeed worth more than 2,000 words. Anybody who tells you the world's greatest superpower can't easily secure the border is a fool or a liar.


22 posted on 05/17/2005 9:31:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: CHARLITE

This article says almost "Exactly" what I say about this issue. There are so many edges to this sword of illegal immigration. Like the writer says, it is inconceivable that the Bush administration has and continues to ignore this problem. All the great successes that GW has acheived will be negated when our next massive attack on US soil occurs. Note I said when and not "if". The Islamofacists have already shown us that they are both cunning and patient. Even the dumbest of enemies would exploit our borders to achieve their goals. I am not for a second hoping to get struck again, but am convinced that our terrorist enemies have already infiltrated and that it is only a matter of time before it happens. Needless to say if 20,000,000 illegal immigrants can cross our borders unimpeded, 1,000 or 2,000 terrorists could do the same thing.
All of GW's fine accomplishments will be negated and our WOT will almost seem fruitless if this scenario occurs.


23 posted on 05/17/2005 9:46:41 PM PDT by conshack ((Illegal immigration is the #1 threat to Homeland Security))
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To: Travis McGee

When we have another 9/11 type attack, I am confident that our southern border will look similar to the Israeli fence. It's an absolute shame that this is likely what it will take before anything will be done though.


24 posted on 05/17/2005 9:50:19 PM PDT by conshack ((Illegal immigration is the #1 threat to Homeland Security))
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To: conshack
If we have another 9-11 and the terrorists strolled across our undefended border, the presidnet might be impeached for dereliction of duty.

U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 8 Clause 15:


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"

Invasion

Invasion \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass. [1913 Webster]

25 posted on 05/17/2005 10:05:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: CHARLITE; Travis McGee

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26 posted on 05/18/2005 7:13:50 AM PDT by JesseJane (Is Isikoff, Eason Jordans daddy?? Turds of a feather...)
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To: JesseJane

BTTT


27 posted on 05/18/2005 7:17:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Luke
I can't figure out what W's problem is on this issue.

He (or Rove) thinks he wins more votes than he loses by being soft on border control. To make them see the light, we have to make them feel the heat.

28 posted on 05/18/2005 8:42:54 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: CHARLITE; MeekOneGOP; devolve; potlatch; Diogenesis; Gipper08; Reaganwuzthebest; JohnHuang2; ...
He (President Bush) must now show the same willingness to spend whatever it takes to increase the Border Patrol’s manpower. This is a no-brainer Mr. President. To reduce the number of illegal aliens we need to step up and increase our presence on the border.

29 posted on 05/19/2005 9:57:08 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
        

30 posted on 05/19/2005 10:10:02 AM PDT by devolve (My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot)
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To: Travis McGee

The word is not might, the word is will!!!


31 posted on 05/19/2005 10:36:26 AM PDT by Sterco
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To: Sterco

I hope we don't find out the hard way.


32 posted on 05/19/2005 1:01:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Happy2BMe; All
He (President Bush) must now show the same willingness to spend whatever it takes to increase the Border Patrol’s manpower.

In the meantime he should put the military on the borders until they can be replaced by civilians.

33 posted on 05/19/2005 6:46:56 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

It really makes you wonder just who is in charge of this country, doesn't it?


34 posted on 05/19/2005 7:28:50 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: CHARLITE

"This goal is not simply a matter of pouring more money into the Border Patrol either."

It is.

"Recently a group of patriotic Americans got together and formed a group called the Minutemen. These people took border security in their own hands. The Minutemen volunteered to stand guard at well-known border jumping spots on the Arizona border. They were effective. There is no doubt that fewer illegal aliens crossed into America."

This idiot does not live in San Diego County, California.

They all came through here after the border patrol pulled off their agents to cover Cochise County--where the Minutemen were patrolling (and setting off the alarms on the border).

"They helped; the border patrol agents welcomed their help."

Yeah, the BP loved the extra per diem they got.

You want border security?

Open your wallets, people.


35 posted on 05/19/2005 7:31:57 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Happy2BMe

The corporations, they want cheap labor and they're getting it.


36 posted on 05/19/2005 8:12:51 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Our Middle Class is history. Cheap illegal labor now dominates even the tradecrafts (e.g., carpenters, plumbers, mechanics, autobody workers, roofers, road workers) and on the high end our technical jobs are being outsourced overseas.

By design. Welcome to the New World Order.

37 posted on 05/19/2005 9:14:56 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: CHARLITE

I just sent this letter to Vicente Fox and to La Opinion in L.A.:


Querido Señor Fox,

No nos diga cómo conducir nuestro propio país, Vicente. Los Estados Unidos de América nos pertenece a nosotros, no pertenece a Ud. ni a los Mexicanos pobres que manda aquí.

Ellos no son "trabajadores sin documentos." Son ILEGALES. Son invasores. Han violado nuestra frontera sin permiso, y están viviendo y trabajando aquí ILEGALMENTE. Si quieren vivir y trabajar aquí, deben solicitar permiso por medio del proceso LEGAL de inmigración. Somos una nación de leyes, y los ilegales no respetan a nuestras leyes. No merecen quedarse aquí.

¿Qué me pasaría si yo entrara a México sin permiso, y si yo tomo un trabajo que "no hará ningún mejicano"? Claro. Me echarán en la cárcel.

Vicente, Ud. es un sin vergüenza y un enemigo de los Estados Unidos de América. Estamos viviendo en una época de guerra. ¿Cómo se atreve decir Ud. que no tenemos el derecho, como un país soberano, de defender nuestra frontera? Arregle a su propio país y economía, en vez de mandar acá a sus necesitados.

Sinceramente,

Los CIUDADANOS de los Estados Unidos de America







Dear Mr. Fox,

Don't tell us how to run our country, Vince. The US of A belongs to us, not to you or to the poor Mexicans you send here.

They are not "undocumented workers." They are ILLEGALS. They are invaders. They have violated our borders without permission, and are living and working here ILLEGALLY. If they want to live and work here, they must request permission through the LEGAL process of immigration. We are a country of laws, and the illegals do not respect our laws. They do not deserve to stay here.

What would happen to me if I entered Mexico without permission, and I took a job that "no Mexican would do"? Of course. I'd be thrown in jail.

Vincent, you are a shameless enemy of the United States of America. We are living in a time of war, and you dare to say that as a soverign nation we do not have the right to defend our borders? Fix your own country and economy, instead of sending us your poor and needy.

Sincerely,

The CITIZENS of the United States of America


38 posted on 05/19/2005 11:19:09 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Somos un país soberano en una época de guerra. ¿Por qué no podemos defender nuestra frontera?)
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To: Choose Ye This Day; CHARLITE; Travis McGee; devolve; potlatch
"What would happen to me if I entered Mexico without permission, and I took a job that "no Mexican would do"? Of course. I'd be thrown in jail."

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39 posted on 05/19/2005 11:41:09 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

That's good. The only thing I'd add would be:

I'll roll through town with my windows rolled down and my English-language, twangy American music blasting at 100 decibels, shaking the neighbors' windows.


40 posted on 05/19/2005 11:59:38 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Somos un país soberano en una época de guerra. ¿Por qué no podemos defender nuestra frontera?)
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To: Happy2BMe; Travis McGee; B4Ranch; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; ...

41 posted on 05/20/2005 12:05:11 AM PDT by devolve (My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot)
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To: clintonh8r

"This is the single biggest disappointment of the Bush administration."

You got that right.

It was bad enough that nothing was being done to protect our borders, but when George Bush actually slandered these honorable Americans, calling them vigilantes because they dared to do the job he refused to do, many of us were outraged.


42 posted on 05/20/2005 12:12:52 AM PDT by SerpentDove (Qwertyuiop!)
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To: SerpentDove

2006 is going to be pure-dee hell on Pubbies.


43 posted on 05/20/2005 12:16:47 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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