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Protest of the Supreme Court on Wednesday
Bureaucrash ^ | June 27th, 2005 | Livy

Posted on 06/27/2005 10:53:54 AM PDT by Livy

There will be a protest of the recent Supreme Court decisions, specifically the property-seizing decision in the New London case.

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1 posted on 06/27/2005 10:53:54 AM PDT by Livy
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To: Livy
I wish I could be there. I'd bring a wrecking ball.


2 posted on 06/27/2005 10:59:28 AM PDT by Outland (Some people are damned lucky that I don't have Bill Gates' checkbook.)
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To: Livy
Visible loud protests are useless.
We've got to start with our legislators. The other most important thing is to make sure truly impartial and knowledgeable judges are appointed and confirmed.
3 posted on 06/27/2005 10:59:30 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Livy

4 posted on 06/27/2005 11:02:52 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Outland
Looks like the old guy with the stone tablets has to go. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
5 posted on 06/27/2005 11:04:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: Livy

You can't come to Walter Reed Hospital on Friday evenings?


6 posted on 06/27/2005 11:04:35 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: Publius6961

They are not useless. the majority of americans have no clue about even the term 'emminant domain" let alone its implications. Demonstrations would be educational and at this point very very helpful.

Having said that, why would anyone care? I mean Americans have to be consumed with the latest celebrity romances, they certainly don't have time for anything like this.ha.


7 posted on 06/27/2005 11:06:59 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: Outland

LOL.Great picture.


8 posted on 06/27/2005 11:08:04 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: Outland

We need a no-wiggle room - clearly worded- AMENDMENT to the constitution to stop this socialist ruling. Now call me crazy but I thought it was already pretty clear in the 5th Amendment but I guess the 5 Supremes need even more legislation.

Who can get an amendment started? Senators?


9 posted on 06/27/2005 11:15:11 AM PDT by Mayflower Sister
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
"the majority of americans have no clue about even the term 'emminant domain" let alone its implications."

Average Joe Americans saw "Supreme Court rules government can seize homes" on CNN. That was about all they needed to see, and it's essentially correct. Do they understand the exact legal terms and nuances? No. Do they need to understand all of them to protest effectively? No. Poll 100 right-to-lifers about the exact legal standards applied to abortions and I doubt half understand half. Why? Because laws are written by lawyers who intentionally obfuscate the language to make the whole thing more difficult to understand for the average person.
10 posted on 06/27/2005 11:16:25 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: Outland

A picture that is worth a thousand words.


11 posted on 06/27/2005 11:34:38 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: cripplecreek

He doesn't have to so long as Mohammed and Napoleon are next to him.

Which they are in that picture.


12 posted on 06/27/2005 11:39:54 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Livy

Good luck and stay safe. My magic eightball says the DC police(and/or Secret Service) stomp this protest flat using less than gentle tactics.


13 posted on 06/27/2005 11:40:45 AM PDT by SandfleaCSC (Libertarians are just Conservatives who enjoy a lapdance from time to time.)
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To: Outland

What a BEAUTIFUL picture! If only it were true.


14 posted on 06/27/2005 11:41:54 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Livy

Good luck and stay safe. My magic eightball says the DC police(and/or Secret Service) stomp this protest flat using less than gentle tactics.


15 posted on 06/27/2005 11:42:11 AM PDT by SandfleaCSC (Libertarians are just Conservatives who enjoy a lapdance from time to time.)
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To: SandfleaCSC
My magic eightball says the DC police(and/or Secret Service) stomp this protest flat using less than gentle tactics.

Nonsense. This wouldn't be the first demonstration outside the Supreme Court.

You a developer trying to depress turnout or something?

16 posted on 06/27/2005 12:02:56 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: SandfleaCSC

F=== the police.


17 posted on 06/27/2005 12:38:00 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: Publius6961

They are not useless if people do it. The problem is that you advertise a protest, and 35 people show up... That ain't gonna do anything, except tell the Supremes that they got away with another one.

Now if there were half a million, then that might make a difference.


20 posted on 06/27/2005 1:10:51 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: SandfleaCSC

If you are afraid, get yourself a dog for company.


21 posted on 06/27/2005 1:52:19 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Livy

I don’t have the time (or$) to head to DC for this. As do many others

We need to organize local protests of this. Maybe try to make a hands across the USA
chain or some thing.

If you want to see how Gov. works.

This is a email reply I got back from a person who works in this field when I forward him this post

In his email the person had the means and the abilty to fight back. And get whats due.



Santa Cruz considers eminent domain on long-empty downtown lot
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1292948/posts


It's sure better then the case I had awhile back in LA. The city took this guys property, which had a liquor store, deli, check cashing service & was Grossing $300K to $350K PER MONTH.

He had a big corner where all the trucks come off the docks unto Alameda St. & the semis could pull in & pick up a sandwich & a drink. The next closest liquor store was 3 mi. away, & this was the closest to the docks & a big marina for pleasure boats.

The city of L.A gave him a generous $79,000 Yes, that was it, they said since the land was zoned industrial that was all the land was worth.

The building would still be standing, but the new R/W line was 3 ft. from the front of the building & there was to be no access. They said he could do something with the building. It was a complex case since the Koreans who owned it just said give us our $500,000 relocation & loss of business amount & we go back to Korea.

The Koreans who had sold it, sold it for 2 million, $750K for the real estate, the rest for the business & inventory & the down payment had been $250,000, the rest only had the real estate as security. The buyers were just going to walk away with the relocation money & leave the sellers holding the bag. It took awhile to get the 2 Korean sellers into the case, but the atty did & they had to start a foreclosure against the buyers to be able to get to court..

We settled on the court house steps for $1,800,000 ,(Inc the business but no inventory) PLUS the $500,000 relocation fee, PLUS, the city had to buy two adjacent lots and pay for the construction of a new building on the two lots, AND provide access to the new property from Alameda St. The appraiser for the city was still saying., how can an industrially zoned property be worth that.

I asked the city Real Estate Dept. manager how they could justify using an appraiser like that. He said, "We love his work, we use him all the time" That is why cities using eminent domain get such a bad rap.

Now, here is the best part, 6 mo later I was at a legal seminar & had lunch with 4 attys, 3 from the City of L.A. I brought up that I had just been the appraiser on a big case against the city & they knew which one right away. One said she had been assigned the case but knew the case was really bad & got out of it. The city put a brand new atty on, (the city hired an outside law firm also), & the city attorneys office had a betting pool as to how big the city was going to take a hit when they found the case was going to court.

Also, think of all the other folks who's property was taken using this type of appraiser and who could not afford to go to court or who did not get a really good attorney (and of course that attorney hiring a really good appraiser on the case).

So that's what happens in many of these cases. Also, many cases in Redev. are not blighted at all, but they use that to cozy up to a particular developer.

This case does not seem like that however & in this case I agree with the city. I don't know what the lot is really worth, but $70/sq.ft. for an ugly looking hole in the ground does not seem out of line. PS The atty & the clients felt I did such a good job they gave me a $2000 bonus on top of the fee I billed-only the 2nd time in my career that has happened!)



22 posted on 06/27/2005 2:46:18 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: Mayflower Sister

Are you kidding? Congress LOVES this ruling.


23 posted on 06/27/2005 3:18:31 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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