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Corp. Dependent on Families Show Contempt for Family Values (Tylenol good for gay "backaches")
Family Research Council | 07/07/2005 | Tony Perkins' Washington Update

Posted on 07/07/2005 4:04:57 PM PDT by Responsibility1st

It baffles me how some major corporations, whose success depends on the support of American families, show contempt for the values of such families. I am currently awaiting responses from two major corporations to letters I sent pointing out such inconsistencies. Wal-Mart, which has historically been responsive to pro-family concerns, continues to sell a Carmen Electra video promising a "striptease-inspired workout" that "introduces you to the striptease basics." Meanwhile, Kraft Foods has paid $25,000 to sponsor the "Gay Games" in Chicago this summer--an event known as much for after-hours sexual activity as for on-field athletic competition. And now, FRC has discovered yet another example of corporate devotion to the homosexual agenda.

A full-page ad for Tylenol PM pain reliever appears in the July 19 issue of the pro-homosexual magazine The Advocate. It shows a photo of two bare-chested men lying beside each other in bed. Under one is the caption, "His backache is keeping him up." Under the other is the caption, "His boyfriend's backache is keeping him up." Tylenol is produced by Johnson & Johnson--the same company that makes the famous baby powder. Contact Johnson & Johnson CEO William C. Weldon at 732-524-0400 or through the website below to let him know you are offended by this amoral advertising strategy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: ads; frc; gay; gaysupport; homosexualagenda; jandj; johnsonandjohnson; kraftfoods; tonyperkins; tylenol
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I guess I won't ever be using Tylenol ever again, since I've never had that sort of "backache".
1 posted on 07/07/2005 4:04:58 PM PDT by Responsibility1st
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To: Responsibility1st
His boyfriend's backache is keeping him up

I'm NOT EVEN going there........

2 posted on 07/07/2005 4:05:53 PM PDT by Responsibility1st
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To: Responsibility1st
Either boycott the products or live with it. Your choice.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
3 posted on 07/07/2005 4:06:33 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Responsibility1st

I dson't use Tylenol anyway.


4 posted on 07/07/2005 4:06:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: Responsibility1st

Should be an ad for viagra instead.


5 posted on 07/07/2005 4:07:44 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (The Democrats have the right mascot; everyone knows what comes out of an ass)
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To: Responsibility1st

It was supposed to read " and his boyfriends' ache for back is keeping him UP"


6 posted on 07/07/2005 4:10:09 PM PDT by pipecorp (one morons' jihad is another mans' CRUSADE!)
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To: goldstategop; All
"Either boycott the products or live with it. Your choice."

I guess only homosexuals are supposed to "act-up" when they see something they don't like - eh?

Poppycock. Get LOUD about it.

7 posted on 07/07/2005 4:10:46 PM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: Responsibility1st
Wow, they're advertising headache medicine to gay people--don't they know gays should just endure headaches?

This is silly. Gays are here, and they're not going anywhere. As long as they keep their business to themselves, fine--battle law changes, battle normalizing gay relationships as being the equal of marriage, don't let them introduce their agenda in the classroom.

But are we so small that we don't want gays to get headache relief?

If a person were injured by the side of the road, I'd ask if he needs help--I wouldn't ask "Are you gay?" first. This kind of thing is juvenile and hateful, and it disperses our focus. We should be counter-protesting ACT UP, stopping them from teaching their crap to our kids, etc. This childish stuff wastes valuable time and effort.

8 posted on 07/07/2005 4:15:29 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: Responsibility1st

Tell me again how absurd the idea is that a large chunk of America won't be happy until we live in a theocracy.


9 posted on 07/07/2005 4:16:53 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Responsibility1st

Support the RED CHINESE, buy Wal Mart.


10 posted on 07/07/2005 4:20:17 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Responsibility1st
"Meanwhile, Kraft Foods has paid $25,000 to sponsor the "Gay Games" in Chicago this summer--an event known as much for after-hours sexual activity as for on-field athletic competition."

After-hours "pole vault?"

Voice of Al Michaels: "Tonight's pole vault competition is brought to you by ZIMA, yes ZIMA, the drink for following up stiff competition. ZIMA, when you want 'zomething in my ass'".

Voice of John Madden: "Al, for those viewers who are morons, the obective of pole vaulting is to vault over a horizontal pole with a vertical pole."

11 posted on 07/07/2005 4:21:53 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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I'll use Tylenol when they are allowed to sell in the U.S. the more effective codeine laced versions our U.K. friends and many others are free to buy over the counter.


12 posted on 07/07/2005 4:24:30 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Dr.Hilarious

Stop making so much sense.


13 posted on 07/07/2005 4:25:52 PM PDT by wingnutx (Seabees Can Do!)
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To: Dr.Hilarious
Um, I don't think anyone thinks "gays should just endure headaches". I think the poster's point is that this advertisement is normalizing homosexual behavior.
14 posted on 07/07/2005 4:26:18 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Responsibility1st

I thought maybe someone would have a good Carmen Electra pic posted. Darn.


15 posted on 07/07/2005 4:27:32 PM PDT by Menehune56
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Major hurling chunks later pingout.


16 posted on 07/07/2005 4:27:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Dr.Hilarious
As long as they keep their business to themselves, fine

Ahh, but you see that is what is at issue. They WON'T keep to themselves. They keep chipping away at moral standards, and won't stop until their moral, political, ethical standards are the norm.

don't let them introduce their agenda in the classroom.

Little by little, inch by inch, the gay agenda is moving forward. This post is NOT about denying them headache relief. It's just to point out how one side of the cultural war is making progess.

17 posted on 07/07/2005 4:29:30 PM PDT by Responsibility1st
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To: Responsibility1st
"His boyfriend's backache is keeping him up

I'm NOT EVEN going there........"

Your last fudge pack,
Has hurt your back.
Now take this pill,
And pay our bill.

18 posted on 07/07/2005 4:31:42 PM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: Dr.Hilarious

Awww. You don't get it, do you? You must be about 17 years old. To us older folks, such ads are offensive. Look it up if you can't imagine what it means.


19 posted on 07/07/2005 4:32:55 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Responsibility1st
I'm waiting on an Exlax commercial targeting homosexual men and their constipation due to Packing The Fudge.
20 posted on 07/07/2005 4:35:15 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Responsibility1st

I used there contact form to send a message.

I ended with a question about why they are using a pain reliever with a sleep-aid to sell sex. If you are in pain and want to sleep, sex is just the opposite of that.

There was an ad a while back for a laundry product that did the same thing, showed to guys in bed. Their clothes were in a pile on the floor.

If the homosexual community is not obsessed with sex, why is it that they accept ads such as this that just reinforce that idea? They'll talk about love and commitment out of one side of their mouths, but then ok ads like this out of the other side. This ads is representative of their lifestyle, everything is sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex.

Has J&J used sexual innuendo like that with a normal couple in any of its ads?


21 posted on 07/07/2005 4:42:09 PM PDT by thompsonsjkc
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To: utahagen
So they don't think gays should just endure headaches, they just don't want advertisements in gay magazines to be aimed at gay people? Um, ok, that makes sense...I guess...

I'm more worried about what these people are doing looking at gay magazines.

22 posted on 07/07/2005 4:42:58 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: Responsibility1st

I see your point but I don't think this is such a big deal. I stated more than once what I thought were the real issues we should be battling over. This is not one of them. I mean, seriously, who cares what they do in a gay magazine? I could see the point if it were in a mainstream magazine, but not there.


23 posted on 07/07/2005 4:44:15 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: firebrand
Awww. You don't get it, do you? You must be about 17 years old. To us older folks, such ads are offensive. Look it up if you can't imagine what it means.

You're offended by such ads being in gay magazines? What are you doing looking in such magazines in the first place? And that's the most offensive thing you find in them?

Nice try at the ad hominem attack, but most older folks I know don't spend their time worrying about the contents of these kinds of publications.

24 posted on 07/07/2005 4:47:09 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: Responsibility1st
I don't have cable TV.
Primarily because I have no wish to pay good money to be constantly offended by the vast majority of programs and commercials on cable TV.
I find it easier to just avoid the whole R-X rated cable TV media rather than pay a lot of money and block out 90% of the cable TV offerings that I find offensive.
Some smart cable marketing start-up group just might make a killing if they packaged a PG-13 or G rated program offering.
I would bet it has been tried, though, and failed.
Don't buy that crap, the same way you don't buy porn.
Simple solution.
25 posted on 07/07/2005 4:56:40 PM PDT by sarasmom (Attrition levels are acceptable and lower than expected. War is an ugly thing.)
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To: Responsibility1st
I guess I won't ever be using Tylenol ever again, since I've never had that sort of "backache".

Why are you expecting corporations to have family or any other set of values? their value is always the bottom line. Gays tend to have higher than average disposable income - the reason Coors hired Mary Cheney as a marketing laison with the gays.. as ever, $$$

26 posted on 07/07/2005 4:58:28 PM PDT by podkane
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To: Responsibility1st
Statement: "Corp. Dependent on Families Show Contempt for Family Values (Tylenol good for gay "backaches")"

Response: Why are you suprised? The main connection between persons, firms or entities in our society is cash flow.

27 posted on 07/07/2005 5:03:35 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: sarasmom
Don't buy that crap, the same way you don't buy porn. Simple solution.

While I agree with you in part, I don't think the solution is all that simple. The porn peddlers, the gay activists, the liberal fanatics all tell us the same thing:

You dont like the filth on TV? Turn it off.

You dont like the vulgarity on the radio? Dont listen to it.

Internet porn hammering your computer? Dont go online.

Basically live like a hermit excluded from the world they are molding for you and your children.

To this I say.... NO WAY!!!

I will exercise my right to let J & J know when they are on the wrong side of a cultural and moral issue.

I wont just go away.

28 posted on 07/07/2005 5:09:04 PM PDT by Responsibility1st
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To: Dr.Hilarious
This is not one of them. I mean, seriously, who cares what they do in a gay magazine? I could see the point if it were in a mainstream magazine, but not there.

Slippery Slope Rule Applies.

This year gay activism is found in gay magazines, and America goes,"so what?"

But do you expect the gay rights activists to be happy with that level of exposure and live happily ever after??

Not Freakin Likely!

They just don't want ads in gay magazines. They wont stop till they get full national coverage in all forms of media.

It's their stated agenda.

29 posted on 07/07/2005 5:14:15 PM PDT by Responsibility1st
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To: gcruse
Tell me again how absurd the idea is that a large chunk of America won't be happy until we live in a theocracy.

A person has seen that a corporation has engaged in behavior he doesn't like, and he's suggesting people call them up on the phone and complain, and perhaps choose to buy a different pain reliever. I can see how that's exactly like living under a government run by God with forced religious observance.</sarcasm>

There are two types of libertarians:

1. Those who really believe that a society of people living according to their own tastes and conscience is the acme of societal evolution.

2. Those who view people living according to their own tastes and conscience as a good thing, so long as those tastes and conscience are very close to their own. If not, those "not like me" people are a fascist threat to free society.

Seems to me you're firmly ensconced in group 2, and definitely far more of an anti-religion reactionary than a libertarian or conservative. What's next, a warning about the dangers of miscegenation?

30 posted on 07/07/2005 5:24:09 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Dark & silent late last night I think I might have heard the highway calling...)
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To: sarasmom
Some smart cable marketing start-up group just might make a killing if they packaged a PG-13 or G rated program offering. I would bet it has been tried, though, and failed.

You're right you know. I cant remember right off hand where I can link to this, but did you know Hollywood makes more $$$ and gets better box office receiptes from PG and PG-13 movies?

Yet the majority of movies that they produce are the R-rated ones.

Why? Becasue they are pushing their sex and violence agenda on America even at the expense of the almighty dollar.

31 posted on 07/07/2005 5:27:14 PM PDT by Responsibility1st
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To: Responsibility1st

Good for you! Yours is the right approach!


32 posted on 07/07/2005 5:27:18 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: thompsonsjkc

Good point.


33 posted on 07/07/2005 5:27:52 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Dark & silent late last night I think I might have heard the highway calling...)
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To: Dr.Hilarious
I'm more worried about what these people are doing looking at gay magazines.

Know your enemy.

34 posted on 07/07/2005 5:29:11 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Dark & silent late last night I think I might have heard the highway calling...)
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To: Mr. Silverback
LOL!

In this case I'll just, uh, assume...

35 posted on 07/07/2005 5:32:54 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: Responsibility1st
Basically live like a hermit excluded from the world they are molding for you and your children.

And then, here's the best part: They tell us we're out of touch with society, and isolationist.

36 posted on 07/07/2005 5:33:22 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Dark & silent late last night I think I might have heard the highway calling...)
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To: Dr.Hilarious

Oh now hey wait a minute there...I don't look at gay mags! And I'm probably not going to bother calling the Tylenol folks and get a burr under my saddle about this. I'm just saying that they probaly read the gay mags for intel.


37 posted on 07/07/2005 5:36:09 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Dark & silent late last night I think I might have heard the highway calling...)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Oh now hey wait a minute there...I don't look at gay mags!

Of course you don't. Whoever said you did? Not that there'd be anything WRONG with it if you did. For educational purposes... ;)

38 posted on 07/07/2005 5:41:05 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: Dr.Hilarious

LOL! Just so you know, I'm very, very, very happy playing on the "team" I currently play on.


39 posted on 07/07/2005 5:52:12 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Dark & silent late last night I think I might have heard the highway calling...)
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To: Responsibility1st
His boyfriend's backache is keeping him up I'm NOT EVEN going there........

Must be a compression injury...

40 posted on 07/07/2005 5:52:55 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Dark & silent late last night I think I might have heard the highway calling...)
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To: Responsibility1st

Pushing back is very easy.
Just don't buy it, and teach your children how best to spend their entertainment time and dollars.
And if more people just refused to purchase cable TV, porn mags and gossip papers, guess what?
Those R-X rated entertainment mediums would shrivel up and go bankrupt.


41 posted on 07/07/2005 5:53:00 PM PDT by sarasmom (Attrition levels are acceptable and lower than expected. War is an ugly thing.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
And then, here's the best part: They tell us we're out of touch with society, and isolationist.

And don't forget we're intolerant homophobes as well.

42 posted on 07/07/2005 5:53:12 PM PDT by Responsibility1st
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To: Responsibility1st
Sorry,I saw your later post first.
I do not get "hammered" with internet porn.
I don't go to any internet porn sites,so I don't have any porn related cookies on my PC.
I listen to the radio, but never to any stations I don't like.
I watch some TV, not much, so the few channels I get on "air TV" suffice.
I have the internet for news.
I have the local library and bookstores for books.More than I could read in a lifetime.
I have a local movie theater, and a DVD player.I watch what I want, when I want.
I have the radio and a CD player for music.
One of the things I have learned in life is:
Never believe any media advertisement that attempts to equate frivolous luxury products with basic necessity.
43 posted on 07/07/2005 6:15:46 PM PDT by sarasmom (Attrition levels are acceptable and lower than expected. War is an ugly thing.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I'm more your number one type guy. I believe, like Margaret Thatcher, that there is no such thing as society, just individuals living their lives.

People indignant about victimless crimes hold a notion of a society that is being degraded by others acting in ways that have no direct effect on the complainant. Imagining some horrid coarsening of society, ie, the feeling that somewhere, somehow, someone is doing something unapproved, the impulse is to reorganize the culture so that their concept of immorality either cannot take place, or is made illegal.

As a result, huge swaths of the population are forced underground or into criminality, prisons overflowing with the perps of victimless crimes. Prison life, alas, actuality *is* coarsening.

What happens, then, is many people are needlessly coarsened by the exercise of power in the hands of those who think they are protecting society from being coarsened. And the more coarseness they see, the louder the cries for more criminalization, which just makes matters worse.

The pride in such imperious moralizing passes me by.


44 posted on 07/07/2005 6:27:15 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
I'm more your number one type guy. I believe, like Margaret Thatcher, that there is no such thing as society, just individuals living their lives.

If this were true, you would not get your panties in a bind about a guy calling up an aspirin company, much less compare it to the evil of advocating a theocracy. You want to see what a theocracy looks like, get yourself a subscription to the Voice of the Martyrs newsletter. You will find that theocrats bear zero resemblance to people who call aspirin companies because they don't like gay content.

Imagining some horrid coarsening of society, ie, the feeling that somewhere, somehow, someone is doing something unapproved,

...something unapproved, like calling up an aspirin company...Forgive the religious metaphor, but it must be hard to see your monitor with that huge plank sticking out of your eye.

46 posted on 07/08/2005 6:59:59 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Dark & silent late last night I think I might have heard the highway calling...)
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To: Dr.Hilarious

Ads that increase revenue to such magazines are damaging to society as a whole because they strengthen the ability of the homo propagandists to spread their message. Anything with strengthens that movement is dangerous and damaging to a healthy society. The only exception would be ads which point out the extreme danger of homosexuality to society and most of all to its practictioners. It is the Culture of Death.


47 posted on 07/08/2005 7:07:54 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: sarasmom

I watch nothing on cable that I don't wish to and often find great programs. However, don't let me stop you from cutting off your nose to spite your face.


48 posted on 07/08/2005 7:09:45 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

By all means use the power of consumer choice for whatever you choose. Don't expect others to join you in priggery or ignore it, though. That's their choice.


49 posted on 07/08/2005 7:15:29 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse

Society- "the totality of social relationships among human beings. b. a group of human beings broadly distinguished from other human beings by mutual interests, participation in characteristic relationships, shared institutions, and a common culture."

Your disbelief doesn not change the FACT that there are societies. Free Republic is a society.


50 posted on 07/08/2005 7:16:16 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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