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Americans Forced to Pay U.N. "Globotaxes"?
The Advocates.org ^ | 07/20/05 | James W. Harris

Posted on 07/20/2005 6:39:19 PM PDT by neverhome

GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS, UNBELIEVABLE NEWS

by James W. Harris

Americans Forced to Pay U.N. "Globotaxes"?

A worldwide tax -- including American citizens -- to support the United Nations? Taxation without representation for the citizens of a nation founded in revolt against that very concept?

It's being seriously discussed -- and the supposedly anti-tax Bush administration hasn't raised a peep. Indeed, the Bush administration is participating in the discussion.

The U.S. government, at the G8 nations meeting earlier this month, agreed to create a working group proposed by France, Germany, Italy and Great Britain to consider carrying out "innovative financing mechanisms" to "help deliver and bring forward the financing needed to achieve the [U.N.'s anti-poverty] Millennium Development Goals."

Among the "financing mechanisms" to be considered is a "solidarity contribution on [international] plane tickets." This tax would bring an estimated $3 billion or more annually to the U.N.

And that's just the beginning, of course. Notes columnist Frank Gaffney Jr. in The Washington Times:

"If the United States goes along with this arrangement in September, it will allow a precedent to be set for taxation without representation that would send America's Founders spinning in their graves. It can forget about the modest constraint its ability to withhold "dues" has exercised on U.N. behavior. It can be sure real U.N. reform will not be in the cards. And it can expect other globotaxes will soon be proposed."

Like what? Gaffney continues:

"The mother of all globotaxes is an idea that has been kicking around the East River for some time and named after the Yale Nobel Laureate who first proposed it, Dr. James Tobin. The "Tobin tax" would theoretically raise an estimated $13 trillion -- yes, trillion -- from a small levy on international currency transactions. Imagine what the One Worlders and U.N. bureaucrats could do to our sovereignty and interests with that kind of wherewithal."

Concludes Gaffney:

"If the Bush administration is unable or unwilling to resist such globotaxes, it will fall to the Congress to do so. With the August recess looming and the U.N. fund-raiser coming right after Labor Day, there is no time to waste."

Now more than ever, it's time to get the U.S. out of the U.N.!

(Source: "Globotaxes," Washington Times: http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20050718-092250-5620r.htm )


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KEYWORDS: globaltaxes; globotax; sovereignty; tax; taxation; tobintax; un; unitednations
I copied this from "The Liberator", a Libertarian e-zine to which I subscribe.

Thoughts?

1 posted on 07/20/2005 6:39:21 PM PDT by neverhome
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To: neverhome

GoBlow Taxes?


2 posted on 07/20/2005 6:40:11 PM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: neverhome

Like we don't pay billions already?


3 posted on 07/20/2005 6:40:26 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888; TAquinas; k2blader; NormsRevenge; Eagle Eye

Ping!


4 posted on 07/20/2005 6:43:39 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Support George Allen in 08!)
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To: neverhome

The U.N. is groping about for money to replace the billions in Oil-for-Food money they've lost.

I have a feeling that our Administration is going along with the discussion for now, but any American participation is going to depend on major reforms in the U.N. Reforms that won't be forthcoming, killing the concept.


5 posted on 07/20/2005 6:44:09 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: neverhome

This is like having a Union in a monopoly. DOOMED TO FAILURE on every level IMO.


6 posted on 07/20/2005 6:46:08 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: xcamel
In general, this idea sickens me. But then I consider how much a tax on international airline tickets or international money transfers would cost me and I figure not much.

Then I consider who these taxes would hit hardest and I realize it would be global corporations and illegal immigrants. I have been so disgusted with both of these groups lately that I really don't give a damn how hard they are taxed. Don't count on me to lift a finger to ease their burden.

Global corporations will be hit the hardest and they are the ones pushing for the global new world order. It seems appropriate that they should be the ones who have to pay for it. And your kidding yourself if you think they would be taxed without representation. Who do you think is paying all the bribes to the corrupt UN? They are VERY WELL represented.

7 posted on 07/20/2005 6:49:40 PM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: xcamel
Like we don't pay billions already?

Yeah, but we're all rich here in America, right?

I for one am sick and tired of every politician on the planet thinking he's entitled to dig in MY POCKET!!!
8 posted on 07/20/2005 6:52:42 PM PDT by neverhome ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: jackbenimble
Global corporations will be hit the hardest and they are the ones pushing for the global new world order.

Regular folks like us will get stuck with the bill becuz they'll (the world corps) will pass the expense along to us via higher prices. It's called "Embedded Taxes." Probably a third of the price of everything we buy is embedded taxes. This would only jack ALL consumer prices up that much more.
9 posted on 07/20/2005 6:56:54 PM PDT by neverhome ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: neverhome
All taxes must be ratified by the House... All treaties must be ratified by the Senate. It says so in the Constitution... It seems that this is a combination of a tax and a treaty. So they might just get away with this sort of Crap... Then again, since when does any branch of our government care about what's in the Constitution?

Mark

10 posted on 07/20/2005 6:58:55 PM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: MarkL
Then again, since when does any branch of our government care about what's in the Constitution?

Yeah... they seem to prefer to make it up as they go. Sometimes I think Dubya is a bigger globalist than his ol' man.
11 posted on 07/20/2005 7:02:53 PM PDT by neverhome ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: neverhome
http://www.ceedweb.org/iirp/ http://www.un.org/documents/ga/conf151/aconf15126-1annex1.htm http://www.johannesburgsummit.org/ http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=391

Here you go. This is the reason for global tax. The UN needs more money to keep the ball rolling. Plus, once they get one tax enacted, they can move in for the kill on the tax issue.

12 posted on 07/20/2005 7:04:26 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: neverhome

http://www.ceedweb.org/iirp/
http://www.un.org/documents/ga/conf151/aconf15126-1annex1.htm
http://www.johannesburgsummit.org/

http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=391


Here you go. This is the reason for global tax. The UN needs more money to keep the ball rolling. Plus, once they get one tax enacted, they can move in for the kill on the tax issue.


13 posted on 07/20/2005 7:05:16 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Should this happen, and should Americans refuse to revolt, then this nation deserves to become the cesspoll slave state that will follow.


14 posted on 07/20/2005 7:07:44 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry: 3 fake Purple Hearts. George Bush: one REAL heart of gold.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Why bring this up now...Let the libs push for it .....then push em down the stairs.


15 posted on 07/20/2005 7:08:46 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Why bring this up now...Let the libs push for it .....then push em down the stairs.


16 posted on 07/20/2005 7:08:54 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: neverhome
To some extent taxes are passed on but to a large extent new taxes cannot be passed on because businesses were already pricing their goods at the highest price the market would bear before the tax was imposed. They can't raise prices without losing market share and the big winner might be domestic businesses who did not incur the international taxes.

To the extent that taxes can't be passed along they either need to take it out of profits and it costs the shareholders or they make it up by cutting other costs with the most likely candidate being labor. I frankly don't care if they pay the Chinese slave a bit less or a lot less.

Taxes cannot always be passed onto consumers and the more competitive the environment the more difficult it is.

17 posted on 07/20/2005 7:09:00 PM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: neverhome

I have been screaming about this for quite awhile! Now maybe you will hear! Bring yourselves up to date:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40559

http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/freedomline/un_monitor/in_our_opinion/global_taxes.htm

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/3/20/134144.shtml


http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32887

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/1/2/63214.shtml


18 posted on 07/20/2005 7:10:03 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: coconutt2000
The U.N. is groping about for money to replace the billions in Oil-for-Food money they've lost.

Just attach Kofi and his son's bank accounts and there is enough money to bail out all the "poor" countries and still keep their respective despots in the lifestyle they have become accustomed to (or "to which they have become accustomed" for you Grammar Cops).

19 posted on 07/20/2005 7:12:04 PM PDT by Shazbot29 (If you paid attention you'd be worried, too!)
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To: coconutt2000

What gives you that opinion? Hopes and dreams?


20 posted on 07/20/2005 7:12:16 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: satchmodog9
The UN needs more money to keep the ball rolling.

Thanks for the links. I have an idea...
What if we tie ANY US money (foreign aid, globotax, etc) to cooperation from UN members? Yeah, it's dirty pool... it's vote-buying... it's extortion... and it's what they do to us all the time!

I can hear'em screaming already. :)
21 posted on 07/20/2005 7:19:31 PM PDT by neverhome ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

you think america would revolt? look , the sheeple did nothing when the scotus issued it's ruling on the abolition of private property aka "eminent domain".


22 posted on 07/20/2005 7:22:42 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Support George Allen in 08!)
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To: neverhome

I have always liked the idea of a global shit list.


23 posted on 07/20/2005 7:24:08 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
I have been screaming about this for quite awhile! Now maybe you will hear!

Well, gee. Okay.
(Why do I feel like I just had a spanking?)
24 posted on 07/20/2005 7:24:13 PM PDT by neverhome ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: neverhome

The beast described in Revelations is materalizing right before our eyes.


25 posted on 07/20/2005 7:24:48 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Democrats-the "GITMO treats terrorists little better than recruits in basic training ", party.)
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To: neverhome
Gaffney continues:

The "Tobin [Global] tax" would theoretically raise an estimated $13 trillion -- yes, trillion -- from a small levy on international currency transactions. Imagine what the One Worlders and U.N. bureaucrats could do to our sovereignty and interests with that kind of wherewithal."

The New World Order has spoken...In this case as well as what's occurring at the Mexican Border (pssst, an invasion suspiciously sanctioned by the U.S. Government for what can only be nefarious reasons.)

If NWO proxy UN was able to withstand the 'Oil For Food' corruption scandal, they're here to stay...FOR-EVER.

26 posted on 07/20/2005 7:24:59 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Stellar Dendrite

The straight answer ............... no.

Americans have proven they are sheep and love to be slaughtered.

Costa Rica here I come.


27 posted on 07/20/2005 7:27:17 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry: 3 fake Purple Hearts. George Bush: one REAL heart of gold.)
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To: zip

ping


28 posted on 07/20/2005 7:29:14 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: neverhome

Maybe because you needed one!! Feelin Guilty Huh!!


29 posted on 07/20/2005 7:31:52 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: Stellar Dendrite
...the sheeple did nothing when the scotus issued it's ruling on the abolition of private property aka "eminent domain".

Where have you been? People are going knutz over E/D! Politicians are lining up to sponsor bills to limit or ban the taking of property for private use (and to keep their jobs). This is a fight we may actually win!

Go here: http://www.alanburkhart.com/Esy_PillageTheVillage.html
30 posted on 07/20/2005 7:32:08 PM PDT by neverhome ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
Maybe because you needed one!!
Haven't had one since I was 30. ;)
31 posted on 07/20/2005 7:35:34 PM PDT by neverhome ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: neverhome

Meaning you might enjoy one!! LOL!!


32 posted on 07/20/2005 7:37:53 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Thanks for the ping.


33 posted on 07/20/2005 7:49:31 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences: Tom Tancredo for President 2008/2012.)
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To: neverhome
Thoughts?

I think it sucks! I think It's unconstitutional. I think most of our government wants to do it. I think we need a tea party. Call me when your ready, my knickers are pressed and waiting.

34 posted on 07/20/2005 7:50:23 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: neverhome

Do you have a working link to the article above? Thanks.


35 posted on 07/20/2005 7:58:12 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: neverhome

But I just read somewhere, here on FR I think, that there is a bill or something afoot in Washington to prevent just this sort of thing.


36 posted on 07/20/2005 8:00:11 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (the only good terrorist is a dead one)
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To: Archon of the East
Call me when your ready, my knickers are pressed and waiting.
I think we should start by replacing the Statue of Liberty with a Godzilla-sized statue of Ebenezer Scrooge. Ya know... send'em a little symbolism overseas.

I earnestly believe that an American tax-revolt is coming. We're a patient and law-abiding people, but we all have limits. With so many Americans having a tough time, why are we sending OUR money overseas to prop up a bunch of outlaw republics that'll NEVER give one rat's hairy A## about us? It makes no sense.

'Scuse the tawdry picture. It just seems appropriate at the moment.

37 posted on 07/20/2005 8:04:25 PM PDT by neverhome ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Do you have a working link to the article above? Thanks.

I can only copy-n-paste it. It's a monthly e-mail publication. They don't post it on their website (http://www.theadvocates.org). Should I refrain from posting from it in the future?
38 posted on 07/20/2005 8:14:59 PM PDT by neverhome ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: neverhome
It is truly amazing how different the people in this country are compared to what the people were like during the days of the Boston Tea Party.

Consider all the foreign aid, loans, grants, tax breaks, special favors and so on that our gov't has given away without any real input from We the People (now known as the taxpayers who pay for all of this) since God knows when.

We the People have lost this country already. The number of people who really know what's going on are too small to make a difference with the sheeple at this point. Just MHO.

39 posted on 07/20/2005 8:58:01 PM PDT by Looking4Truth (Never trust the old media for information.)
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To: Looking4Truth
We the People have lost this country already. The number of people who really know what's going on are too small to make a difference with the sheeple at this point. Just MHO.

Whoa! Didn't mean to come across as a surrender monkey.

I'll never surrender when it comes to the USA regardless of what the stupid sheeple do.

40 posted on 07/20/2005 9:05:03 PM PDT by Looking4Truth (Never trust the old media for information.)
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To: neverhome
I earnestly believe that an American tax-revolt is coming.

That belief is one of the few that I still have faith in myself.

Consider this...

What if people had to write a check every month for taxes rather than think that the 'refund' they are getting at the end of the tax year is some kind of windfall. And having a copy of the federal budget handy along with articles exposing gov't waste around would certainly help.

Attitudes would soon change, you can bet.

These ideas could be used to FReep the IRS while exposing the public to said ideas. Did I say that?

41 posted on 07/20/2005 9:15:44 PM PDT by Looking4Truth (Never trust the old media for information.)
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