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Ass Backwards: The media's silence about rampant anal sex
Slate.com ^ | 9/21/05 | William Saletan

Posted on 09/21/2005 6:50:39 AM PDT by Callahan

"Oral Sex Prevalent Among Teens," announced Friday's Washington Post. "A federal survey finds more than half of 15- to 19-year-olds have had oral sex," said the subhead in the Los Angeles Times. "Sex Survey Shocker; Concern as most American teens have had oral sex," cried the Boston Herald.

Across the United States—and beyond it—any newspaper that didn't focus on lesbianism in the sex survey (released last week by the National Center for Health Statistics) declared a crisis of oral sex among teens. Experts and journalists, unwilling to express plain old moral dismay at the idea of their kids doing the deed, cited its health risks. "Oral sex has been associated in clinical studies with several infections, including gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes and the human papillomavirus," observed the Post. Teens "have not been given a strong enough message about the health risks of oral sex," an expert warned the Times. "We need to provide them with information about the public-health consequences," another expert told Time.

If only it were that simple. Talking to your kids about oral sex is the easy part. If you're going to be frank about the most dangerous widespread activity revealed in the survey, you're looking at the wrong end of the digestive tract.

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The spin that activists, scholars, and journalists have put on the survey—that abstinence-only sex education is driving teenagers to an epidemic of oral sex—doesn't hold up.

Figures the pain-in-the-ass MSM would blame "abstinence-only education" for teenagers acting like porn stars. when the culture is steeped in sex--the more bizarre, apparently, the better. Kids are just copying what they see on the internet and in the Oval Office (thanks Clinton).

1 posted on 09/21/2005 6:50:40 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan

President Clinton, the MSM and democrats say the oral sex is not sex.


2 posted on 09/21/2005 6:53:32 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Callahan


3 posted on 09/21/2005 6:53:54 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: Callahan

And the misappraisal of human anture continues.


4 posted on 09/21/2005 6:54:33 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: wideawake
And the misappraisal of human anture continues.

ANTURE! I get it! LOL!

5 posted on 09/21/2005 6:55:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Callahan

Raunch culture may be the tipping point for something new and conservative. The libs will be fighting mad all the way when the "kids don't enjoy themselves like in the good old days of free love".


6 posted on 09/21/2005 6:55:45 AM PDT by i.l.e. (Tagline - this space for sale....)
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To: Lazamataz

This will be hard for some Democrats to digest.


7 posted on 09/21/2005 6:57:18 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan
The media's silence about rampant anal sex

I'd rather have silence about it than have to look at ~this~ headline. Society is too coarse already.

I really wonder about folk who want to hear more about whatever this is. Voyeurism into the perverse, all the while claiming to be really offended.

8 posted on 09/21/2005 6:57:54 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: HairOfTheDog

You can ignore it, but it won't go away. The "culture war" requires combatants on both sides. And you weren't asked to join--you were drafted.


9 posted on 09/21/2005 7:02:08 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan

If you think sex is a pain in the ass your doing it wrong,


10 posted on 09/21/2005 7:02:15 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Callahan

I think Opie & Anthony broke this story years ago.


11 posted on 09/21/2005 7:03:09 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: HairOfTheDog

Sadly, it's going on among our youth. To be able to combat it, we need to be aware of it ... regardless of how icky it is.


12 posted on 09/21/2005 7:04:08 AM PDT by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: Lazamataz

You bring joy even to typos, Laz. Good to have you back.


13 posted on 09/21/2005 7:04:33 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: HairOfTheDog

To each his own. But I'd guess the increase in anal sex numbers can be directly linked to porn, and the increase in the anal sex fetish that now saturates that industry. Anal sex is glorified in porn. That said, a lot of men have this urge to, well, enter any hole available. Sorry guys, its an exit, not an entrance. Women I know whose hubbies have begged (yes begged) to do this have all replied with, 'you first'. LOL.


14 posted on 09/21/2005 7:05:44 AM PDT by rintense
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To: TexasGreg

Not just the youth hun,

I hear women my age complaining about the man in their lives (husband, boyfriend) being absolutely fixated on it.


15 posted on 09/21/2005 7:06:36 AM PDT by najida (Once upon a a very long time ago, in a land far, far away.....It was still all Bush's fault.)
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To: Oratam

Guy on girl anal sex has been standard operating procedure in "mainstream" porn for quite a while.

What couples do behind closed doors is their own business, but this really is indicative of how the prevalence of pornography is affecting taboos.


16 posted on 09/21/2005 7:10:34 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: TexasGreg; rintense
Sadly, it's going on among our youth. To be able to combat it, we need to be aware of it ... regardless of how icky it is.

Ah yes, more media coverage is a good way to reduce the popularity of something. Lets talk about anal sex all the time.

17 posted on 09/21/2005 7:13:19 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Callahan

No need to try rewriting history,Bill Clinton,your legacy is.................." I did not have sex with that woman,Monica Lewinsky"

Try putting that genie back in the bottle.


18 posted on 09/21/2005 7:15:58 AM PDT by jos65
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To: rintense

What are they gonna do when their husbands say "Sure"? Porn by nature must get increasingly weird as the old taboos lose their shock value. One day, you will wake up and pedophilia will be "mainstream."


19 posted on 09/21/2005 7:16:57 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan

Naaaa,,,the demonrats are used to asssholes...!


20 posted on 09/21/2005 7:17:11 AM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly (!...The Confederate States of America rises again...!)
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To: Callahan

You'd think after Kinsey, people would learn not to accept these "surveys" and the results and conclusions claimed by the "researchers" at face value, but it doesn't appear so.


21 posted on 09/21/2005 7:17:48 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Lazamataz

Anturally you would pick up on that first.


22 posted on 09/21/2005 7:20:05 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Ah yes, more media coverage is a good way to reduce the popularity of something. Lets talk about anal sex all the time.

Stop acting like the MSM by putting words in my mouth. I didn't say we should talk about anal sex "all the time," but rather that we should just be aware that it's going on. Or ... do you suggest that the best way to deal with this problem is to shove our heads up our own butts? The kids are doing this ... if we don't tell 'em to STOP and that Sodomy is a SIN (as well as medically dangerous) we will be complicit in their buggery.
23 posted on 09/21/2005 7:24:48 AM PDT by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: najida

Oh, ick! How Greek of them.


24 posted on 09/21/2005 7:25:06 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: tacticalogic

Survey like this are about as useful as opinion polls, but there is plenty of evidence that this type of activity is way more socially accepted than it used to be. I know too many "nice" girls who partake, or at least put up, with it.


25 posted on 09/21/2005 7:26:52 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: TexasGreg

No kidding. I can guarantee a post on FR is not the first time the typical teen hears about it.


26 posted on 09/21/2005 7:28:27 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: TexasGreg

I think if kids have been raised right and told to avoid sex and they decide to have butt sex instead, there isn't much more a parent could have said to prevent it.

Have fun.... I just think there is a certain thrill people get in talking about this stuff... it's as if it's OK to throw out all rules of decency because it's news.... Pornography of the mind without the guilt of actually doing it.


27 posted on 09/21/2005 7:29:43 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Callahan

It may or may not be accurate, but it seems odd that given "critical thinking" as a basic characteristic of conservativism, no one seems inclined to subject the study to critical review before accepting the conclusions.


28 posted on 09/21/2005 7:36:24 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Actually, this is example of how screwed up sex education is in general. When the message kids get is "don't have sex because a) you'll get pregnant b) you'll get a disease," they logically look for alternatives that will eliminate the risk of one or both. Morality isn't involved at all.

It's like telling your kid, "Don't deal drugs on the street corner because you might get caught. Keep it in doors."


29 posted on 09/21/2005 7:38:03 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan
Unless they're embarrassed to admit they've done it, the gals I know tell their husbands that if they really want anal sex, the men have to 'take it' first. Doubt they would ever say yes, esp. since most guys like the idea of doing it to a chick but loathe the thought of them being on the receiving end.

I agree. Seems whatever happens in porn eventually become mainstream.

30 posted on 09/21/2005 7:40:33 AM PDT by rintense
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To: jos65
" I did not have sex with that woman,Monica Lewinsky"

It was actually "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky." He must have meant because she wasn't closely related, she wasn't relations. Except for rape, I have little confidence that the sicko psychopath Clinton could perform in coitus because his personality is so defective.

Olive oil was found by the prehistorical cultures to have multiple uses which the Greeks made famous for Hollywood's and the Beltway elites' short-term benefit. Nearly every star has as its future a black hole.

31 posted on 09/21/2005 7:41:51 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: najida

It is 100% true. I hear the same thing, which leads me to believe that a lot of boyfriends, married men are being influenced by porn.


32 posted on 09/21/2005 7:44:03 AM PDT by rintense
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To: rintense

Sadly,
The thing I hate about the porn industry is it pushes all these myths that make men think that women work differently than they actually do....So guys do things and push for things that are, well, just wrong! And hurt and are a big time turn off and trust breaker.

So while the porn chicks are 'acting', they really hate it as much as those vanilla wives at home.


33 posted on 09/21/2005 7:45:33 AM PDT by najida (Once upon a a very long time ago, in a land far, far away.....It was still all Bush's fault.)
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To: rintense

Exactly!

I want to say over and over and OVER...
Porn is fantasy,
Made up stuff,
Not true....
AND
those women in the those movies are ACTRESSES!

Geez


34 posted on 09/21/2005 7:47:04 AM PDT by najida (Once upon a a very long time ago, in a land far, far away.....It was still all Bush's fault.)
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To: najida; rintense

Gals, I wasn't raised in a puritan bubble, but I have ~never~ heard any man ask or display interest in doing this, nor have any of my friends. And conversations have been had that are close enough to the subject that I think it would come up.

I'm just sayin' is all.


35 posted on 09/21/2005 7:58:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: HairOfTheDog; najida

Maybe you and your friends are associating with a better type of men? (Jeez, folks - change a few hundred thousand diapers, and then see what you think about the hinder end of *anything*!)

I've never heard of this from the people I know, either, but then my friends and I (in the 6-10 kids each group) are mainly interested in going to sleep :-).

However, a very significant part of the population uses porn, and if those trends are influencing expectations in the real world, then I need to know about it as a parent, no matter how much it disgusts me.


36 posted on 09/21/2005 8:10:46 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

How old are you?


37 posted on 09/21/2005 8:13:59 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan

Ummm 36.

- or am I 37? I have to think! :~D


38 posted on 09/21/2005 8:15:17 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Callahan

I'm sure you meant to write: "Bass Ackwards"


39 posted on 09/21/2005 8:17:00 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: Callahan

At least THIS wasn't Bush's fault...


40 posted on 09/21/2005 8:19:36 AM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I really wonder about folk who want to hear more about whatever this is. Voyeurism into the perverse, all the while claiming to be really offended.

I've long thought that many if not most bluenoses were really getting off on all the stuff they rail against. They sure love to talk about it.

Gives them a good excuse to wallow in what they secretly want, while being able to tell themselves and all their friends how "decent and good" they really are.

41 posted on 09/21/2005 8:24:28 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball

agreed :~\


42 posted on 09/21/2005 8:29:27 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Well, I know for a fact that when (some) women get together, especially after a few margaritas, they let loose way more than guys do. Some of the things we talk about would make most men blush.


43 posted on 09/21/2005 8:50:08 AM PDT by rintense
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; bellevuesbest; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Sigh. This is one of those articles I REALLY don't want to ping out. Read after you're finished with one meal and not yet ready for the next. One comment on the thread opines that anyone who reads about this topic must have an unhealthy fixation with it.

That's called "hoping bad things will go away if I don't know about them". Never works, never has, never will.

Porn is a very, very bad thing. It used to not be covered by the first amendment, then Larry Flynt and the ACLU discovered that Yes! Freedom of speech meant every kind of raunchy, violent, nasty pornography was JUST what the founders of this country had in mind when the Bill of Rights was written!

Rampant sexual immorality will indeed destroy this country along with a lot of other stuff. Gross sexual immorality renders a human being less than an animal, engenders a hard heartedness and selfishness that hardly any other activity does, necessitates abortion and the view that pregnancy and resulting children are burdens, destroys family life, and creates a subclass of fatherless children and husbandless mothers and predator males. The fact that so many - even here on FR - scorn these truths is sad testimony to the breakdown of basic human morals.

Morals that have been given to mankind by God in every scripture in the world. For our own good. And the funny thing is that if we follow the rules (get married if you want sex and don't kill your children) we'll be much, much happier than if we break them. These rules aren't there to surpress our happiness, but to insure it.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


44 posted on 09/21/2005 9:16:07 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: rintense; najida
Rin...
every time I catch your posts somewhere I think
"Thats right..
tell it like it is"
My hubby and I talked about this years and years ago when we were first married
I was shy at the time (don't laugh) about asking but he looked at me and said 'Sweetie..I am not now nor will I ever be interested in that area..."
Thank goodness I thought ... it sickens me to think women do this out there ..hating it...but still do it for their men.

And Naj..so true sister...those women on the movies are stopping to lube it to keep from crying out....thats what men DON"T SEE!!
45 posted on 09/21/2005 9:22:35 AM PDT by PaulaB (The left 'respects' only that which truly frightens them)
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To: little jeremiah

Excellent rant, l.j.


46 posted on 09/21/2005 10:07:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: Tax-chick

Thank you kindly.

I'll take a muffin and a cup of tea!


47 posted on 09/21/2005 10:13:13 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: rintense; PaulaB; HairOfTheDog; Tax-chick
Well, I know for a fact that when (some) women get together, especially after a few margaritas, they let loose way more than guys do. Some of the things we talk about would make most men blush.

OK folks, I must hang out with crazy people ;). And I won't go into detail, but all I can say is...be grateful you aren't in the dating scene anymore. There are men who, erm, want to drive Harleys when they are still falling off the tricycle. IOW, the are rotten in bed, but think if they do THIS, they'll be great! And I lay it squarely on the doorstep of porn.

What rintense said is true....whether it be in person, on the phone or on the net, when women let loose, it is AMAZING what comes out....and that is a major complaint I've heard.

Lastly, guys...
You wanna be the greatest lover on the planet?
Walk away from the TV and the monitor and pick up what the woman in your life is reading. Or go hang out on some of the chat forums that discuss these books. Call it what you may; bodice ripper, Housewife porn, romance novel...whatever. THAT is what her real fantasys are.

To this day, I'm amazed that men watch what they do, and ignore the obvious.

48 posted on 09/21/2005 10:16:20 AM PDT by najida (Once upon a a very long time ago, in a land far, far away.....It was still all Bush's fault.)
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To: najida

So this explains the steep decline in teenage pregnancy rates?


49 posted on 09/21/2005 10:17:15 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: little jeremiah

Great rant!

Mine was more nuts and bolts, but I think we're sorta on the same page ;)


50 posted on 09/21/2005 10:17:39 AM PDT by najida (Once upon a a very long time ago, in a land far, far away.....It was still all Bush's fault.)
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