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Harriet Miers: Signs that she is pro-life
Stingray: A blog for Salty Christians ^ | October 3, 2005 | Michael McCullough

Posted on 10/03/2005 8:52:39 AM PDT by DallasMike

Marvin Olasky talks to Texas Supreme Court Justice Nathan Hecht on Harriert Miers on the World Magazine website. For those who don't know, Olasky is an evangelical Christian intellectual in the mold of Chuck Colson. Nathan Hecht is ardently pro-life.

This begins a series of seven posts on Harriet Miers, based on interviews with those who know her. Some background for the first five: I spoke yesterday with Nathan Hecht, the Texas Supreme Court justice who is a prolife hero for strongly supporting parental notification laws five years ago when a SCOTEX majority was scuttling them. Hecht, 55 and never married, and Harriet Miers, 60 and never married, have known each other for 30 years and are -- to quote Hecht -- "very close friends. We dated some. The relationship has been close: Platonic... We go to dinner, I go to Washington for special things."

Miers has been a member of Valley View Christian Church in Dallas for 25 years, where Hecht has been an elder. He calls it a "conservative evangelical church... in the vernacular, fundamentalist, but the media have used that word to tar us." He says she was on the missions committee for ten years, taught children in Sunday School, made coffee, brought donuts: "Nothing she's asked to do in church is beneath her." On abortion, choosing his words carefully for an on-the-record statement, he says "her personal views are consistent with that of evangelical Christians... You can tell a lot about her from her decade of service in a conservative church."

Hecht says about Miers' judicial philosophy: "She's an orginalist -- that's the way she takes the Bible," and that's her approach to the Constitution as well -- "Originalist -- it means what it says." He notes that her legal practice involved writing contracts rather than tort law, so she was always looking at the plain meaning of the words: "Originalist." He also says she's not a social butterfly who will be swayed by Washington dinner table conversation: "She goes to the dinners she's supposed to go to. She's not on the social circuit."

I know Valley View Christian Church through my pro-life work. I can't say whether any individual member is pro-life, but I would be surprised if someone who is not pro-life occupied a leadership position.


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1 posted on 10/03/2005 8:52:42 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike

Who the hell cares what her PERSONAL views are?


2 posted on 10/03/2005 8:53:31 AM PDT by Huck ("If people are disappointed, they have every reason to be." Mark Levin on GW's latest lame move.)
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To: DallasMike

I've repeatedly consulted my Magic 8-Ball to ascertain her views, but it keeps changing its mind.


3 posted on 10/03/2005 8:55:38 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Huck

Is it not enough that a very conservative, pro-life Supreme Court justice considers that she is a strict constructionist on the Constitution?

Besides, there's no way you can claim that one's personal views don't form a part of one's professional views.


4 posted on 10/03/2005 8:57:03 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike

Not very convincing


5 posted on 10/03/2005 8:57:56 AM PDT by neutrality
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To: DallasMike

I really don't care at all what their personal views are. Just their views on the law and the Constitution.


6 posted on 10/03/2005 9:12:15 AM PDT by Huck ("If people are disappointed, they have every reason to be." Mark Levin on GW's latest lame move.)
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To: DallasMike
Bush is playing Rope-A-Dope par excellance!!!

A lot of Freepers are just as stupid as the RATS who get suckered every time.

7 posted on 10/03/2005 9:54:16 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
On abortion, choosing his words carefully for an on-the-record statement, he says "her personal views are consistent with that of evangelical Christians...

The same as the Catholic Church.

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8 posted on 10/03/2005 10:06:06 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

Thanks, NYer.


9 posted on 10/03/2005 10:09:33 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Huck
Precisely.
10 posted on 10/03/2005 10:13:13 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: NYer; Pyro7480

This is extremely important information. Very helpful.


11 posted on 10/03/2005 10:13:53 AM PDT by Maeve (Our Lady of Knock, pray for us.)
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To: DallasMike

All I know is that Roberts and Myers better be pro-life, or I'm voting for the Constitution party candidate in the next election. Fool me once; shame on you. Fool me three times; shame on me.


12 posted on 10/03/2005 10:18:14 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Maeve

I agree. I have cited Catholic leader Leonard Leo several times in my writings to help educate Protestants who may not be familiar with his work as Catholica Outreach chairman for the Repubican Party.

Promoting a culture of life is one big area where Catholics, charismatics, and evangelicals can all find common ground.

Members of all Christian groups have prayed for President Bush to be given wisdom for selecting this Supreme Court seat. President Bush is a man who seeks after God and I believe that we should trust that God has revealed the right person for the job to him.

 

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13 posted on 10/03/2005 10:25:18 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Aquinasfan
All I know is that Roberts and Myers better be pro-life, or I'm voting for the Constitution party candidate in the next election. Fool me once; shame on you. Fool me three times; shame on me.

Well, we don't have that party on the ballot here in Georgia, but I have often skipped races in elections in the past, and I would not mind skipping an election altogether.

14 posted on 10/03/2005 10:25:44 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: DallasMike

I'm not happy, but I'll wait to see what comes out about her in the next few days, and I eagerly look forward to watching her confirmation hearings. Could she be a trojan horse nominee the dems don't see coming? I hope so, but I'm not holding my breath.


15 posted on 10/03/2005 10:32:31 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: Aquinasfan

By the time that is clear, the current people will be long gone.


16 posted on 10/03/2005 10:32:36 AM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Bombardier
I agree. What a disappointing choice. This selection (I do not want to be given winks and nods about a judicial choice)is uninspiring, to say the least. After GW's spendthrift habits,a terrible record on immigration, we get this.

I will not go off the reservation, but I'll spend my time looking at the scenery, instead of being a warrior..
18 posted on 10/03/2005 10:51:14 AM PDT by conservativehistorian (.)
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To: Bombardier
"stealth" equals "Souter."

It might and it might not. The proof of the pudding is in the tasting. It is premature to say that "he has sold us out again."

19 posted on 10/03/2005 10:54:45 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: DallasMike
She's an orginalist -- that's the way she takes the Bible

Obviously she's not a very good originalist, or she'd be Catholic ;-)

/puts on flame-retardant suit
20 posted on 10/03/2005 11:37:35 AM PDT by mike182d ("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
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To: mike182d
Obviously she's not a very good originalist, or she'd be Catholic ;-)

Hey, I can take it! By the way, I took great effort on my blogsite to explain to my fellow evangelicals who John Leo is (Catholic Outreach chairman to the Republican party) and the teachings of John Roberts' church.

I think we both can agree that promoting a culture of life is one area where Catholics and Evangelicals can work hand-in-hand. Our quibbles are the arguments of sibling against sibling but Catholics and Evangelicals stand together against the powers of the world.


21 posted on 10/03/2005 11:49:53 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike

Mike, there are those here who hope to divide us Catholics from you Evangelicals on this nomination. If you spot this, ping me. I've got your back.


22 posted on 10/03/2005 12:10:07 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: mike182d; DallasMike

Mike182d: Assuming arguendo that you are Catholic, may this Catholic remind you that we will not win the social civil war without Catholic/Evangelical alliance. Your post does not help.


23 posted on 10/03/2005 12:12:28 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: DallasMike; mike182d; BlackElk

I read somewhere that she is a former Catholic.


24 posted on 10/03/2005 12:13:46 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: BlackElk
I've got your back.

Likewise. We're brothers in Christ and, though no one squabbles like brothers, we stick together if someone from the outside comes in to start a fight.

I'm convinced that Harriet Miers supports the culture of life and an originalist interpretation of the constitution. For that, we need to support her.


25 posted on 10/03/2005 1:09:01 PM PDT by DallasMike
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26 posted on 10/03/2005 2:05:16 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: DallasMike; Coleus

Let's hope so.


27 posted on 10/03/2005 2:26:06 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: DallasMike; mike182d; BlackElk

As a Catholic who is not at all thrilled with President Bush's nomination of Miss Miers, I must say that just about the only good news I have heard about the Miers nomination is that she is a devout Evangelical and thus my sister in Christ. My qualms about her nomination have nothing to do with her religion (which I view, as I said, as a plus) but with (i) her lack of credentials and (ii) the uncertainty regarding her judicial philosophy.

In my opinion, any Catholic who attacks Evangelicals for their religion, and any Evangelical who attacks Catholics for their religion, is doing the secularists' (and the Islamists') dirty work. Devout Christians need to stick together regardless of our religious differences, since when you get right down to it we have the same goals and aspirations.


29 posted on 10/03/2005 3:01:30 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Aquinasfan
All I know is that Roberts and Myers better be pro-life, or I'm voting for the Constitution party candidate in the next election.

That sounds like you want activist judges. Many Conservatives don't. There's a real difference between people who want strict Constitutionalists and ones who want activists with their opinions.
Bush said that he would choose Constitutionalists. I think he did. And I'm pleased.

BTW, the Constitution party won't get you activist Right-to-Life candidates either.

30 posted on 10/03/2005 3:30:12 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: AmericaUnited


Just as hysterical, for sure.


31 posted on 10/03/2005 3:31:32 PM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: DallasMike
On abortion, choosing his words carefully for an on-the-record statement, he says "her personal views are consistent with that of evangelical Christians... You can tell a lot about her from her decade of service in a conservative church."

21% of evangelical Christians voted for Kerry. 30% voted for Gore. 100% of Harriet Miers actually donated to Gore. Hmmmm....

32 posted on 10/03/2005 3:33:43 PM PDT by Spiff (I think that looters AND people who continue to misspell "Martial Law" should be shot.)
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To: speekinout

I agree about the strict constitutionalist! It was activist justices and judges that got us to where we are. I don't want any more of them.


33 posted on 10/03/2005 3:43:13 PM PDT by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences ... you might become a conservative)
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To: Ruth C
It was activist justices and judges that got us to where we are. I don't want any more of them.

Amen!

34 posted on 10/03/2005 4:40:50 PM PDT by speekinout
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ping


35 posted on 10/03/2005 5:00:13 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: DallasMike

This is encouraging. I have a lot of respect for Olasky as a subscriber to his magazine for several years now. I already laid down my pitchfork and torch on another thread. But I will be ready to take them up again if necessary. ;^)


36 posted on 10/03/2005 5:22:09 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic (You cannot stop me, I'll just make...a "move"....)
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To: Aquinasfan
Everyone says she is an "unknown." - I don't buy it.

Just the fact that Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid have nothing bad to say about her says to me that Conservatives have been sold down the river by Bush.
37 posted on 10/03/2005 5:39:58 PM PDT by Barnacle (Free Republic; The modern equivalent of the ham radio... on steroids.)
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To: Barnacle

Rush brought out the fact that Harry Reid said nice things about Judge Roberts BEFORE he voted against him.

Schumer said that we know less about Miers than we did about Roberts. I would call that being nice to Miers, and give them time; just give them time, and you will hear plenty of things against Miers, especially from Schumer.


38 posted on 10/03/2005 5:53:46 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: Coleus

Pro-Life Bump.


39 posted on 10/03/2005 7:13:33 PM PDT by fatima
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To: Spiff
21% of evangelical Christians voted for Kerry. 30% voted for Gore. 100% of Harriet Miers actually donated to Gore.

Once, in the 1988 PRIMARY, not general, when Gore was still pro-life.

But don't let facts get in the way of your innuendo and slander. You certainly haven't previously...

40 posted on 10/03/2005 7:16:39 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat ("I'm quitting the GOP! (Again!)" - Eeyore. Join the Self-Annointed Martyr Party!)
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To: NYer

I think I need more info regarding her views on this matter.


41 posted on 10/03/2005 7:23:57 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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A special ping, per request of DallasMike. Some interesting insights on SCOTUS nominee Harriet Miers.










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42 posted on 10/03/2005 7:25:30 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Sun
...just give them time, and you will hear plenty of things against Miers, especially from Schumer.

I hope you're right. Because it would be better to be wrong on this one case than to have been a sucker for years.

43 posted on 10/03/2005 7:56:56 PM PDT by Barnacle (Free Republic; The modern equivalent of the ham radio... on steroids.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
>21% of evangelical Christians voted for Kerry. 30% voted for Gore. 100%
>of Harriet Miers actually donated to Gore.

Once, in the 1988 PRIMARY, not general, when Gore was still pro-life.

But don't let facts get in the way of your innuendo and slander. You certainly haven't previously...

Which fact did I get wrong?

Previous innuendo and slander? What the heck are you talking about?

44 posted on 10/03/2005 8:02:54 PM PDT by Spiff (I think that looters AND people who continue to misspell "Martial Law" should be shot.)
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To: DallasMike

That's GREAT news Mike. Thank you for that. I too am a fundamentalist (Pentecostal) Christian conservative. If she is a fundamentalist Christian, she's PRO-life. I wish the Conservative groups would do their homework BEFORE they get on the MSM and start blabbing. I truly believe that the President is fulfilling his promise to his base on this most important issue. I couldn't finish watching Pat Buchanan and Tucker Carlson tonight. They really know how to make a bad situation WORSE it would appear. CO


45 posted on 10/03/2005 9:31:02 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us western Canuks should separate from Central Canada and join the USA. More Repubs!!)
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To: Barnacle

Did it ever occur to you that Bush may have very slickly "hoodwinked" the left?


46 posted on 10/03/2005 9:39:02 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us western Canuks should separate from Central Canada and join the USA. More Repubs!!)
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To: Salem; DallasMike; Fred Nerks; USF; Former Dodger; AmericanArchConservative; Dark Skies
Thanks for the ping Salem and thanks for posting this DallasMike.

I am amazed how many on FR are criticizing President Bush for his selection of Harriet Miers, BEFORE they have all the facts.

But then again, many here did the same with the nomination of John Roberts!

47 posted on 10/03/2005 9:57:31 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (Enjoy Freedom? Support Our Troops! Support their families! Support their mission!)
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To: Aquinasfan
I'm voting for the Constitution party candidate in the next election. Fool me once; shame on you. Fool me three times; shame on me. 12 posted on 10/03/2005 1:18:14 PM EDT by Aquinasfan

More than likely there will a huge fight over the next Republican nomination for president with Giuliani and his goofy pro-choice posturing looming in the wings. It promises to be an interesting internal struggle within the GOP.

If they lose Pro-Life Catholics and Evangelicals over that, the conservative coalition will collapse.

48 posted on 10/03/2005 11:18:10 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Bombardier; sitetest; wideawake; Pyro7480; ArrogantBustard; AnAmericanMother

Ping!


49 posted on 10/04/2005 5:04:32 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Not a nickel, not a dime, no more money for Hamastine!)
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To: DallasMike; mike182d; BlackElk
Hear, hear!

Sibling quarrels is a good way to describe it. The bottom line, though, is that we preach Christ Jesus and Him crucified, and that leads us to have far more in common with each other than with the followers of the secular world.

I am encouraged by her membership in this very conservative church. While it is not impossible to be wishy washy on life issues and belong to such a church, it's not the line of least resistance. The really wishy washy are Unitarian, mainline Methodist, or Episcopalian.

50 posted on 10/04/2005 6:00:19 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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