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HARRIET MIERS OUTSHINES BORK
MoonbatCentral.com ^ | October 4, 2005 | Richard Poe

Posted on 10/04/2005 3:20:22 PM PDT by Richard Poe

HARRIET MIERS OUTSHINES BORK

Unlike the Patron Saint of Originalism, Miers Will Defend Our Freedom


Judge Robert H. Bork has come to represent in many conservative minds the gold standard of legal sagacity against which provincial upstarts such as Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers must be weighed.  In truth, however, Bork provides a poor example of conservative jurisprudence. Even as simple a phrase as, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" has long confounded Judge Bork. Harriet Miers suffers no such confusion.

Following a July 1, 1992 incident in which a crazed gunman slew two lawyers and two judges in a Texas courtroom, Miers wrote in the Texas Lawyer, "How does a free society prevent a man from entering a courtroom and opening fire?" (hat tip, David Kopel)

The very liberties we hold dear, such as, "access to public places, the right to bear arms and freedom from constant surveillance" make such crimes possible, noted Miers. Yet, she concluded, "We are not willing to sacrifice these rights because of the acts of maniacs."

By contrast, Robert Bork dismisses the Second Amendment as a useless relic of bygone days.  In his 1996 book Slouching Towards Gomorrah he writes that, "The Supreme Court has consistently ruled that there is no individual right to own a firearm" — a statement which is demonstrably untrue. Bork also writes:

"The Second Amendment was designed to allow states to defend themselves against a possibly tyrannical national government. Now that the federal government has stealth bombers and nuclear weapons, it is hard to imagine what people would need to keep in the garage to serve that purpose.''

Perhaps if Judge Bork had found himself besieged by gangs in post-Katrina New Orleans, he might have gained a healthy appreciation for the utility of SKS rifles and AR-15s in modern life.  How much more would he have appreciated such hardware, had he found himself surveying the smoking ruins of an American city flattened by nuclear terror attack, devoid of police and swarming with brigands.

But Judge Bork is one of those men who cannot "imagine" what he has not personally experienced.  And so the "brilliant" jurist discarded James Madison's handiwork as casually as he would a soiled Kleenex.

If this is brilliance, how exactly should we define stupidity?

In today's American Thinker, Thomas Lifson exposes the snobbery which underlies so many conservative denunciations of Harriet Miers. He writes:

"Thus we hear conservatives sniffing that a Southern Methodist University legal education is just too non-Ivy League, adopting a characteristic trope of blue state elitists. We hear conservatives bemoaning a lack of judicial experience, and not a single law review article in the last decade as evidence of a second rate mind."

The outrage certain conservative pundits have displayed in the face of President Bush's decision to elevate Harriet Miers over their Ivy League classmates may be understandable. But it is not helpful. Nor is it admirable.


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To: faithincowboys
faithincowboys writes: "I'd really like to see the context of those Bork quotes-- I really really would."

I think you can search his book by key-word at Amazon.com.

21 posted on 10/04/2005 3:36:47 PM PDT by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe
"By contrast, Robert Bork dismisses the Second Amendment as a useless relic of bygone days."




Jeez.... even the liberal Lawrence Tribe has came down on the "individual right" side of the argument. I understand he got quite a bit of hate mail from his fellow Libs.
22 posted on 10/04/2005 3:36:51 PM PDT by Pirogue Captain
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To: Richard Poe

I'm sorry, but this is not much to go on. As the original article pointed out she lumped a bunch of rights into a paragraph as an example (and it may have refered to the rights in Texas to bear arms)of a larger point.

Moreover, does this sound conservative?

She then explained the true solution to crime:

"We will be successful in solving our massive crime problems only when we attack the root causes....

We all can be active in some way to address the social issues that foster criminal behavior, such as: lack of self-esteem or hope in some segments of our society, poverty, lack of health care (particularly mental health care), lack of education, and family dysfunction. "


Self esteem causes crime? Hope? Lack of health care?

NOW I am more worried.


23 posted on 10/04/2005 3:37:18 PM PDT by Max_Parrish
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To: Richard Poe

Well done!!

Read my lips.......Harriet Miers will turn out to be another Antonin Scalia.

I can't wait to say "I told you so" !!

Oh ye of little faith....................
AKA fair weather friends


24 posted on 10/04/2005 3:37:32 PM PDT by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: dirtboy
Never mind that Article VI of the US Constitution is very specific about state laws not holding up when in conflict with the Constitution.

And I personally watched Bork make comments about the 2nd to the effect that it's staunch supporters were in fact rabid wackos that made themselve look bad with their fanaticism.

25 posted on 10/04/2005 3:39:35 PM PDT by Double Tap
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; PhiKapMom

A tidbit of info for the record.......


26 posted on 10/04/2005 3:40:43 PM PDT by deport (Miers = Souter....... A red herring which they know but can't help themselves from using)
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To: Made in USA

I'm becomming more and more convinced that some FReepers are narrow minded, and suffer from tunnel vision. They'd also turn against their own Mothers in a New York minute. They are self centered examples of the "me" generation.

Harriet Miers was an even MORE brilliant choice than John Roberts. Too bad some FReepers are too stupid to notice!!


27 posted on 10/04/2005 3:42:37 PM PDT by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: fizziwig

I admire Rush Limbaugh, but why have a fight, when we can win the war without firing a shot?? Isn't that what Ronald Reagan did??? And it turned out to be the right thing to do, didn't it???


28 posted on 10/04/2005 3:45:28 PM PDT by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: dirtboy
Sorry, but he calls the 2nd Amendment an anachronism.

I had not heard that. Got a source?

And IMO, the 2nd does not require incorporation as the First did, because it is not prefaced with "Congress shall pass no law."

It says "shall not be infringed." That is absolute. And Bork walks away from that absolutism.

While I am certain you know that I agree with that sentiment, the Second also deems a State militia "well regulated." From what I have been able to discern, that means not only are the militia ready and trained to fight, but that a State has the power to manage that armed capability.

This is getting off topic. My point is that I think the Second as written is somewhat at variance with an optimal statement in support of the pre-existing unalienable right to self-defense and that placing enforcement powers in the Federal government has its perils.

29 posted on 10/04/2005 3:49:22 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Richard Poe

BTTT about Bork comments

Why is it only the pubbies that eat their own?


30 posted on 10/04/2005 3:49:59 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: GeorgeW23225

You needed to hear the complete statement by Rush on this issue otherwise, just reading my post, it does seem he just wanted a rumble with the libs....but it was more eloquent than that.

Still, Rush has a wait and see attitude. He was not a panicky whiner like so many, especially Joeseph Farah.


31 posted on 10/04/2005 3:50:41 PM PDT by fizziwig
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To: dirtboy
>>>>.... all these conservatives are running around saying that Miers isn't qualified and we need a distinguished conservative scholar in the mold of Robert Bork instead!

That's not what all conservatives are saying. Most conservatives are saying that there were better qualified candidates available to Bush. And conservatives aren't saying we need a conservative jurist in the mold of Robert Bork, but rather we need a conservative jurist in the mold of Antonin Scalia or Clarence Thomas.

32 posted on 10/04/2005 3:51:01 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Richard Poe

Bite this Ann Coulter!


33 posted on 10/04/2005 3:53:48 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Richard Poe

Great article. Keep them coming.


34 posted on 10/04/2005 3:53:51 PM PDT by Patriotic Bostonian
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To: ladyinred
In his 1996 book [Bork]...

Yeah, well at least Bork is writing books, one of Borks many achievements not shared by Harriet Miers.

35 posted on 10/04/2005 3:57:01 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: deport
Thanks! Has anyone checked with Ann Coulter yet? I mean, I can't make up my mind until I know what she says.

/sarcasm> (Inserted because I am afraid there are too many here who would take me seriously.)

36 posted on 10/04/2005 3:59:26 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: GeorgeW23225
I admire Rush Limbaugh, but why have a fight, when we can win the war without firing a shot??

I enjoyed your use of Reagan and Sun Tzu against Rush. I admire Rush and many other conservative radio hosts who seem to be squeamish about Miers, but their skepticism verges on cynicism, which is very un-Reagan.

In addition to their wanting an all-out bloody battle over Sandra's replacement, Rush and the other naysayers are violating another Sun Tzu-ism: When strong, appear weak. Rush thinks we're being weak by going into stealth mode, when in fact, we may just be giving the appearance of being weak.

37 posted on 10/04/2005 3:59:47 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: Richard Poe

Bork also argued that there is no Constitutional protection for parents who homeschool their children, even if they do it for religious reasons.


38 posted on 10/04/2005 4:01:36 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Miss Marple

LOL... that Coulter gal....... I haven't paid much attention to her rants for a long time. She appears to have been disappointed in life to me and has become nothing more that a constant complainer in the mold of ol' Pattie Buchanan and the other members of the Donner party.....


39 posted on 10/04/2005 4:02:33 PM PDT by deport (Miers = Souter....... A red herring which they know but can't help themselves from using)
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To: Richard Poe

I have long thought Bork is somewhat overrated- but better than most of what we have on the Supreme Court.


40 posted on 10/04/2005 4:04:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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