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Ali does the "Rope-A-Dope" on Bush
http://294fa.blogspot.com/2005/11/alis-actions-didnt-merit-any-medals.html ^

Posted on 11/09/2005 3:19:14 PM PST by gts

Ali does the "Rope-a-Dope" on Bush. This draft dodger, Cassius Clay, changed his name to Muhammad Ali and became a Muslim in order to avoid serving his country during the Vietnam war. For some reason (does anyone know?) everyone now loves to kiss his ass. What did he ever do for his country to deserve this honor? As a further insult, they do it right before Veterans Day.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Sports
KEYWORDS: ali; boxing; bush; draft; medaloffreedom; vietnamwar
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To: saganite

This Ali guy ?? He was a boxer?


21 posted on 11/09/2005 4:04:47 PM PST by alisasny (Jerry Lewis on France rioting...."CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!")
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To: alisasny

See what I mean?


22 posted on 11/09/2005 4:05:25 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: wimpycat

That would be great and wonderful but the poster meant to type LEAST and insulted my spelling afterwards..but good try : )))


23 posted on 11/09/2005 4:06:13 PM PST by alisasny (Jerry Lewis on France rioting...."CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!")
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To: gts

Bush should be ashamed.


24 posted on 11/09/2005 4:06:58 PM PST by cynicom
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To: gts
Ali and Cosell were as good as it gets in sports entertainment. I'm sure he has done a lot of charity benefits. And who can forget the Ali-Fraizer bouts. Made a big mistake fighting Larry Holmes, the most underrated heavyweight of all time. Talk about brain damage. It was his ego that made him great, and his ego that destroyed him. Some good lessons there. When you look at the other people today who got the award, I see no problem with Ali getting one.
25 posted on 11/09/2005 4:07:03 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (My Homeland Security: Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper)
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To: saganite

And I thought he was a pugilist. Go figure.


26 posted on 11/09/2005 4:07:21 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: garyhope

It po'd me when he got to light the torch at the Atlanta Olympics; the honor should have gone to Teresa Edwards, now a five-time Olympian (from Atlanta) in Basketball.

I have no reason why people like Ali. He's a bigmouth and small brained thug.


27 posted on 11/09/2005 4:08:35 PM PST by Loud Mime (Bad Lawmakers = Bad Law = Infinite Lawyers)
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To: gts
To his credit, he was the one practicing Muslim that came out internationally to say these terrorist actions were wrong and should be condemned.

I have a memory of him specifically doing this and though I don't agree with his politics, I do appreciate his coming out when no one from the rest of the Muslim community would.
28 posted on 11/09/2005 4:10:09 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: gts


He stings like a butterfly and floats like foam rubber.


29 posted on 11/09/2005 4:12:57 PM PST by Malsua
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To: gts

He gets my respect ONLY as a great boxer. As an American, he's worthless.


30 posted on 11/09/2005 4:19:18 PM PST by pissant
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To: garyhope; SF Republican

If Ali had been a good boy and done as he was told, it would have gone easier for him. After all, nobody was going to send him with a gun into any rice paddy. But he took a gutsy stand on principle and paid for it heavily. He had courage and strength of character and took tremendous abuse for doing what he believed was right and that is why he is respected today.

And by the way, what was so very, very wrong about Ali saying no openly and publicly as opposed to all those rich families that put their sons in the National Guard ? Everybody who could get out of going to Vietnam did so. He took on the system head on, not sneaking through technicalities.


31 posted on 11/09/2005 4:27:15 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: alisasny

What did Ali ever do? Hell of a lot more than you.

Crap load more than most. Wins a gold medal for his country in the olympics, comes home and isn't allowed to eat in a restaurant because of the colour of his skin.

But he's supposed to die for this country?

That's what you would do right? Be pissed on then bend over grab your ankles and take it again?

Yeah he turned muslim because the people who were supposed to be Christian weren't Christian at all they were racist and treated people like him like crap. I often wonder who carries the greater burden - he who sins or he who causes another to sin. Christ was clear on this.

I like Ali because he put his money where his mouth is unlike some of our BS politicians now who talk big about War and fighting but never saw a day of combat in their lives or have their own kids tucked away while other people bleed to protect their right to spend our tax dollars like idiots.

Even the British, pretty much ever male member of the monarchy serves in their armed forces and in the war theatre. That is true leadership and shows that you believe so strongly in what you're doing you'll sacrifice your own life. William and Harry are in the military now. Charles served; Edward fought in the Falklands. Could you imagine that in our country? Clinton declares war and sends Chelsea; Bush sends his twins to Iraq; Gore sends his kids; Cheney? Never not in this country. Not anymore. Sad really.

Sorry man ... and OJ - don't like him either but you know what he's innocent in the eyes of the law. Just like right now, Scooter Libby is innocent until proven guilty.


32 posted on 11/09/2005 4:47:20 PM PST by EternalPatriot (I put my country before the letters R or D. USA FOREVER)
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To: EternalPatriot

Hell of a lot more than you.


Do you know me?


33 posted on 11/09/2005 4:54:11 PM PST by alisasny (Jerry Lewis on France rioting...."CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!")
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To: Sam the Sham

" Everybody who could get out of going to Vietnam did so."

No they didn't.

I disagree that Ali did what he did on some "principles" of his. I think he just hated and hates America and white people.


34 posted on 11/09/2005 6:10:51 PM PST by garyhope
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To: EternalPatriot; garyhope
I like Ali because he put his money where his mouth is unlike some of our BS politicians now who talk big about War and fighting but never saw a day of combat in their lives or have their own kids tucked away while other people bleed to protect their right to spend our tax dollars like idiots.

Even the British, pretty much ever male member of the monarchy serves in their armed forces and in the war theatre. That is true leadership and shows that you believe so strongly in what you're doing you'll sacrifice your own life. William and Harry are in the military now. Charles served; Edward fought in the Falklands. Could you imagine that in our country? Clinton declares war and sends Chelsea; Bush sends his twins to Iraq; Gore sends his kids; Cheney? Never not in this country. Not anymore. Sad really.

Precisely. Ali's courage cost him his title and a ton of money. It made him an object of hatred to white America. He talked the talk and walked the walk. It would have been so easy to take the easy way out. But he didn't. That's principle whether garyhope likes it or not. When you sacrifice much for something that will give you nothing materially it is principle.

And the hypocrisy of American elites on this is staggering. The sons of Prescott Bush and Joseph Kennedy were carrier pilots and PT boat commanders. Low life expectancy jobs. Pat Robertson was a regimental liquor officer. Gore was a correspondent. Kerry played at being JFK.

35 posted on 11/09/2005 6:30:46 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: gts

My favorite boxer of all time - Smokin' Joe Frazier - caught him with a left hook (Joe was a converted southpaw, so his left had great power)in the third round in the '71 fight (We watched it live on an Armed Forces hookup) and Ali's eyes got wider. The punch got Ali's attention and I realized that Joe might win. It was night in NY, but afternoon where I was. Never enjoyed watching a fight more. Close to the most fun I ever had in a quonset hut.


36 posted on 11/09/2005 6:42:59 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Sam the Sham
He took on the system head on, not sneaking through technicalities.

You're absolutely right. What he did showed real courage. As you say, he could have played along and got a nice cushy assignment with no risk to himself. Instead, he stood up for his principles, regardless of the consequences. That makes him a true American.

37 posted on 11/10/2005 9:24:26 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
. Made a big mistake fighting Larry Holmes, the most underrated heavyweight of all time. Talk about brain damage.

Actually it may have been that fight with the wrestler (can't remember his name off the top of my head) that actually may have done more damage than any of his boxing matches.

38 posted on 11/10/2005 9:27:00 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: gts; All
Since August, Bush has followed a new policy. Whatever he thinks is right & proper action(as a conservative-Republican) he's decided to do completely the opposite.

This was after Laura got him to sit down and watch a 'Seinfeld' marathon.

39 posted on 11/10/2005 9:36:04 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: gts
Real simple, he didn't run to Canada. Was stripped of his Olympic gold medal, yet he stayed and said he had nothing against Vietnamese. He spoke his mind and stayed.
40 posted on 11/10/2005 9:42:45 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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