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Mapes and Kurtz Debate Memogate (VIDEO)
CNN via ThePoliticalTeen.net ^ | 11-10-2005 | ThePoliticalTeen.net

Posted on 11/10/2005 6:53:12 PM PST by rabair

Mary Mapes, making the rounds on her new book, appeared on The Situation Room today to argue her story with veteran reporter Howard Kurtz. Kurtz gave Mapes the

HOWARD KURTZ: What is amazing to me Wolf is that 14 months after this story blew up we are still talking about a story that was retracted by CBS news, an independent commission found that Mary Mapes and her colleagues had failed miserably to authenticate. I can’t prove the documents aren’t real, but unfortunately for Mary, I sympathies for anyone who has gone through the battering she has, she can’t prove that the documents are authentic. It’s not just the arguments about the th’s and the superscript, one of the key people interviewed by 60 minutes was an 86 year old former secretary to Bush’s late squadron commander and she says the documents weren’t real. So this story still has problems and Mary Mapes seems not fully uncomfortable to come to grips with that.

Mape still contests that the document is real because no one has shown proof that is fake. (So much for the “journalist standard” that she speaks about.) Mapes responds to Kurtz remark about spacing yet does not dare to speak about the th’s.

MAPES: I can’t speak for Dan, I certainly can’t. All I can do is tell you my experience and once again, I’m going to say your reporting was wrong about proportional spacing, it was wrong about the document being able to be created in [Microsoft] Word with Times New Roman font,(1) it was wrong in a number of respects and it remains wrong and if you had spent more time looking for more documents, looking at the facts of the story, and really looking at the case you would have done some different reporting yourself.(2)

(Excerpt) Read more at thepoliticalteen.net ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; cnn; danrather; forged; howardkurtz; kurtz; liars; lies; marymapes; memogate; nationalguard; rathergate; seebs
follow link to read more, watch the video, and more. Ian at thepoliticalteen.net has a number of posts with video of Mapes on her, as I call it, tour of denial. I also think this all has to do with the fact she'll never hold another job and she has everything riding on this one book.
1 posted on 11/10/2005 6:53:13 PM PST by rabair
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To: rabair
I happened to see her on O'Really, half her answers were I don't know, and the other half were It wasn't my fault
2 posted on 11/10/2005 6:58:09 PM PST by buzzyboop (no tags, no fuss)
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To: rabair
Mary Mapes has found a publication to write for that shares her standards for authenticity:


Now, who can prove that Bigfoot did NOT keep the lumberjack as a love slave?
3 posted on 11/10/2005 7:00:28 PM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: rabair

4 posted on 11/10/2005 7:02:54 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: rabair
KURTZ:...I can’t prove the documents aren’t real...

Hell, Kurtz, even I can prove the documents aren't real.

5 posted on 11/10/2005 7:06:07 PM PST by alnick
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To: rabair

Mary, when are you going to explain the forged documents? This is a great country. Every teller of tales can get on television and explain why they weren't really telling whoppers.


6 posted on 11/10/2005 7:06:30 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: rabair

Only a delusional person would even attempt to defend what were clear forgeries. I think she has finally lost her mind.


7 posted on 11/10/2005 7:07:22 PM PST by NewMediaFan (Fake but accurate)
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To: NewMediaFan
"I think she has finally lost her mind."

Did she have one to lose? :-)

8 posted on 11/10/2005 7:14:24 PM PST by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: NewMediaFan

No comparison between her and Judy Miller. she is angry, bitter and in denial with paranoid blame of right wing bloggers. I just caught the end of Miller on Larry King live. She is smiling and relaxed.


9 posted on 11/10/2005 7:14:58 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: rabair

Someone sometime has to ask Mary how much of your other work has been based on material of this quality? The same question should be asked of CBS and Dan Rather.


10 posted on 11/10/2005 7:15:49 PM PST by airedale ( XZ)
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If the docs are real, it would seem normal for Mapes to show the train of evidence: how did she get them, where did this person get them, and so on...

It would not only seem the normal jouralistic thing to do, it would boost her case of their authenticity. But.. nothing.

Mapes has been as diligent in finding the source as O.J. has been in finding the killer.

Wonder why?

11 posted on 11/10/2005 7:17:06 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: Boazo

LOL!
I'm choking on my popcorn!


12 posted on 11/10/2005 7:27:02 PM PST by JRochelle (Brit to Juan, "Somebody needs to hose you down!")
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To: alnick

I was going to say, "well, me and about a million others can."

When I tried typing in the "physical order", I believe it was, for myself, the thing which struck me the most was the automatic margination.

You'll note there's a lone word on the last line. When I typed it in, MS word of course gave the same margins, i.e. line breaks, as in the "document". When I got to the last word of the last line, it was hanging on, even to the last letter. Then when I typed the period - bing! - it made a new line, to complete the perfect match. Subjectively, a very powerful proof.


13 posted on 11/10/2005 7:33:31 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: JRochelle

14 posted on 11/10/2005 7:52:59 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: rabair
Memo to Mary Mapes:
"When You Are Digging A Hole And Find Yourself Up To Your Neck In Turds... Stop Digging!!!"

Jack.

15 posted on 11/10/2005 9:29:00 PM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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