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To: questions_everything
I brought up child porn because there's a market for it; people desire it. You're justifying CleanFlicks' actions partially on the basis that people desire these edited movies. Desire for a product or service does not translate into a right to have that product or service available. No right exists to purchase a version of someone else's intellectual property. That isn't "fair use".

As I said before, if a movie disturbs you or you think that it's inappropriate for your children, then don't watch it. As an example, I thought that David Lynch's Blue Velvet was brilliant. I never want to see it again; it was too disturbing. My opinion of it, however, doesn't give me the right to expect that a "less disturbing" version be available. I have no right to ask someone to steal from David Lynch to satisfy my desire.
26 posted on 11/23/2005 11:33:19 AM PST by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: Redcloak

I agree that just because you want something, that doesn't mean that you have a right to get it. My mother taught me that very early in life.

But again we are not dealing with us altering someone elses Intelectual property and then selling that version instead of the original. It would be like taking Microsoft Windows (whichever version you choose) chop it up and then put it on the shelves as that original windows operating system.

This is completely different. We are not dealing the the initial exposure and sale of these movies. People see the original or at least purchase that one first, and then decide that they want to customize it to their personal wants and needs.

I feel that you and I are saying the same thing, just in different ways. We both agree whole heartedly that someones someones intelectual property is theirs and it is their right to maintain the integrity of it. For someone to alter and then try to pass it off to the public as the original or try to convince the public to buy the altered version INSTEAD of the original is so wrong.

But again back to the windows example. People buy the orignal version and then customize the setting and so forth to their specific needs. Of course Microsoft is keen enough to offer different options and custimizing features so that people don't have to do it themselves.

Thus we get back to the real point. If Hollywood would just release thier edited version then we wouldn't be having this conversation, but they haven't yet and our society is a society of choices and options. The constitution provides those freedoms so that's the way it will be.

It also allows us to speak freely in forums like this one. It is really great to talk to all of you. I'm glad I stumbled onto this forum.

Happy Thanksgiving weekend


28 posted on 11/25/2005 8:54:56 AM PST by questions_everything (I hope this doesn't sound like a soap box)
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