Posted on 12/15/2005 9:44:48 PM PST by systematic
FreeRepublic Team Ranked #1,550 (of 41,708 teams)
Previous FR F@H thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1537549/posts
| Free Republic Folders |
| Date of last work unit | 2005-12-15 21:10:53 |
| Active CPUs within 50 days | 55 |
| Team Id | 36120 |
| Grand Score | 122645 (certificate) |
| Work Unit Count | 909 (certificate) |
| Team Ranking (incl. aggregate) | 1556 of 41708 |
| Home Page | http://www.freerepublic.com |
| Fast Teampage URL | http://fah-web.stanford.edu/teamstats/team36120.html |
| Rank (within team) |
User | Score | WU |
| 1 | Compaq_Owner | 19752 | 136 |
| 2 | Dads_AMD3000 | 18445 | 64 |
| 3 | Texas_Booster | 17577 | 139 |
| 4 | Compaq_Owner3 | 12397 | 104 |
| 5 | T_Admin | 6796 | 53 |
| 6 | bubba_sales | 6223 | 50 |
| 7 | Jim | 5007 | 39 |
| 8 | Uriah | 3903 | 34 |
| 9 | Tony1 | 3176 | 23 |
| 10 | Ken_in_Texas | 2437 | 10 |
| 11 | Malsua | 2340 | 15 |
| 12 | ENDUSER_Michael | 2298 | 16 |
| 13 | Weasel | 2167 | 19 |
| 14 | Steve_Wilson_1 | 2053 | 19 |
| 15 | Brian_Admin | 1649 | 12 |
| 16 | kenth | 1622 | 17 |
| 17 | Vern_1 | 1523 | 13 |
| 18 | dfwddr | 1339 | 17 |
| 19 | Compaq_Owner_David | 1294 | 12 |
| 20 | susan | 1141 | 10 |
| 21 | Kevin_Inspiron | 952 | 6 |
| 22 | Chesterbelloc | 852 | 8 |
| 23 | Trax_Admin | 848 | 7 |
| 24 | BoT | 843 | 30 |
| 25 | David_G_1 | 808 | 7 |
| 26 | Tactical | 671 | 4 |
| 27 | Big_Bobs_FTW_1 | 549 | 3 |
| 28 | David_Griffith | 453 | 4 |
| 29 | A.Hun | 422 | 3 |
| 30 | FourtySeven | 300 | 2 |
| 31 | Vladimir_F | 287 | 10 |
| 32 | xeniast | 287 | 2 |
| 33 | Hawkeyes_Girl | 255 | 3 |
| 34 | sshultz460 | 206 | 1 |
| 35 | Drachenfels | 206 | 1 |
| 36 | ShakeNJake | 206 | 1 |
| 37 | cgk | 201 | 2 |
| 38 | CPQ_1700 | 197 | 2 |
| 39 | Michael_K | 182 | 1 |
| 40 | sales_don | 182 | 1 |
| 41 | Heil_Dad | 171 | 3 |
| 42 | vidi | 166 | 1 |
| 43 | VICI | 106 | 1 |
| 44 | Veni | 48 | 1 |
| 45 | ChadGore | 48 | 1 |
| 46 | Becky1 | 41 | 1 |
| 47 | jarod_1 | 19 | 1 |
Shoot! I'm going to have to unplug for the holidays soon. And I was doing so well...
my work unit is up to a wopping SIX% now... at this rate, i might get on the board by this time next year 8^)
Thanks for the ping!
So... when it says a new 5000 frame WU will be completed Thurs Sep 22, year 2016 (3933 days) - it's just kidding, right? :o)
my computer is working on a 12,500 frame WU.
To calculate the time it takes to complete it, multiply thg frames times the time/frame (in my case it's 12, frames x 44 seconds/frame)
Uhm... that's not good. I guess there's no way to control what kind of WU's you receive?
It actually reads that this 5000 frame WU takes 1132 minutes per frame and lists an end date for the WU of:
17:39 Thr 22 Sep 16
3933d: 07h:42m:22s
I just completed a 12,500 frame like yours that took a couple days max... from 7 s per frame to 44 s per frame.
You must have a super computer. From what I understand, WUs get assigned based on processor speed, available RAM and internet connection speed.
The good news is that ranking is based on points (not WUs), so you'll a ton of points for that.
I think you can get more than 2,000 points for huge WUs. The smallest WUs I've seen only result in 15 points.
My problem (1st one) says 400,00 out of 500,000 steps done. It downloaded this one Dec 10. Even though I don't get a direct report of time per step, it looks like a step is taking about 1½ seconds.
I am using the console version, anybody know if a step and frame are the same (apparently not)? Is there a relation between frames (or steps) and the score? (I think this will vary per machine if a relation exists.) I'm wondering if my problem is going to help the team score any.
I surely never thought of my computer as a super computer. It's an Intel Celeron 2.8 GHz with 512 RAM... cable modem connection.
But I did solve the problem, if there was one as far as it taking 11 years to finish this WU... heh.
I quit the program and started it up again. Now it reads:
2m/9s per frame...
85/5000 frames completed.
WU end date: Fri Dec 23, 7days
Much better... my panic is over!
I am pinging some of the "experts" to your post, as I am not certain. I do believe a step and a frame are the same thing, but I am very new to this.
I'll demonstrate my naivete - is the console version you are using the one where you have an icon in your system tray in windows? You can double-click it to view the program status/working? If so, I guess I am using the console version as well!
The console version runs in an MSDOS window, with no graphics. The Windows version piddles away a little of its processing power by showing you that rendering of a molecule. Not much, but I'm cheap.
If the console version has a window of any sort, I haven't found it. I have just been looking at the the log it keeps.
You must have it set to run at boot. I kick mine up manually on the command line, hence the window. If I close the DOS window, it exits the program.
In one of my current projects there are 500 frames, and the log shows a total of 500,000 steps. Another machine has 2062 frames, and is logging progress for a total of 2062 steps. In other words, it depends. :-)
The word "Frames" is poorly defined in FAH. You'll find two different meanings, but in both cases, they are fractions of a complete WU. Depending on the speed of your computer, you'll probably complete a WU in one to several days. Then the results will upload and an new work assignment will be downloaded. A few hours later, the points will appear on-line under your name and team number. Each work assignment has a project number, and additional information about that project can be found on the Project Summary (See a link on the top of this page, or on the Stanford web page.) Detailed information is available in a file called FAHlog.txt. You'll find messages similar to the following: [05:04:24] Completed 0 out of 125000 steps (0) [05:42:19] Completed 1250 out of 125000 steps (1) [06:20:08] Completed 2500 out of 125000 steps (2) [06:58:02] Completed 3750 out of 125000 steps (3) and on the GUI you'll find a message saying Frames Completed: 3/125 which really means I've completed 3% of the current WU. Unlike the information shown on the GUI, most people would say this is frame 3, and the WU has 100 frames (one associated with each message). In your case, you probably have a WU with 25000000 steps and you've now completed 5000000 which is shown as 5000/25000 which is 20% completed. When it gets to 100% you'll have completed your first WU. The Folding process takes a lot of computing, and progress on any one machine is slow, even on the fastest of PCs . . . and there are some 180,000 active PCs all working simultaneously on this project.
This dosen't really answer the frames/steps question, but may help us understand frames better. This quote was made by the sys admin.
Are you running the console version? If so, where are you getting the frame count?

Frames completed shown in the middle (left side) of page
Team member stats: http://fahstats.com/t.php?t=36120
Team production: http://fahstats.com/tp.php?t=36120
Teams we'll conquer next: http://fahstats.com/tr.php?t=36120
If you're running the console version, I can't answer right now. I might crank that version up to do some more WUs, but will wait until the existing ones are finished.
Ok, now i've officially been at this almost exactly 1 week.
I've STILL got 2 computers yet to check in. One is a slow piece of crap p4 1.6 and the other is this one and I've throttled it back because my hot machine, this one and my wife's all share the same 1500UPS. When I pump this one to 100% my UPS whines that I've got less than 5 minutes time remaining by using about 650 watts.
I've done 20WUs so far, but as a team, we're all cranking! Woot. I can add more machines if we hit a wall. Need to get more freepers going.
Yeah, it's the gui version. Unless you right click and do "display" it just sits in your tray, there's no cycles stolen on the display. If you have a modern video card, even if you display, the cycles lost are negligable.
The "use IE settings" refers to how your computer connects to the Internet. It could be a direct connecton, through a firewall, dial-up, whatever. That just means do it the same way the IE is configured.
Team rank #1,500.
Congrats, team! Let's go for Top 1,000
Well, I've got a third machine up and running, but it's a Duron 950, at about 67%, and it's first project is a 3750 framer, so it may be April before we see any results !! LOL
Team progress has been GREAT, but we need some more freepers to help us out. Come on guys, it takes very little time, and is free. Do a keyword search on "folding" and see what a good cause this is. If you need help setting up, anyone on this thread will be willing to help.
Well get to it buddy!!! Looks like you overtook me in the team standings. Way to crank them out. I've got a machine swap or two coming up this weekend but hope to have things stabilized after that.
F2H now lists us at 1491 as of 2:15 CST, and ExtremeOverclockers.com lists us at 1474.
We are gaining on lots of teams, with only team, QUT HPC gaining on us. We really need a couple of machines to kick in to put some space between us and them.
We have contributed 4,294 points in the last 24 hours which will push into the Top 1000 in the first half of January. This is the key stat that I focus on.
I have added a couple of slow systems to the cause. Slow, but I can run them 24x7 at home over Christmas before they go to their new homes.
Another interesting stat at fahstats.com: in terms of points in the last week, we are in 239th place; for points within the last 24 hours, we are #196.
That's why we should strive to be in the Top 200 teams. Since FR is the largest and most active community on the Internet, we should have no problem breaking into the Top 100. We need ideas on how to get more FR members to sign up.
Thanks KiT, I was wondering what IE had to do with anything.
Just finshed my 1st WU on Team FR & got on the board. 182 points - looks like a pretty typial problem. It took 7 days to finish the 1st WU, that sound about normal?
The new problem is now 1% done after 2 hr, so it should take about the same time as the 1st one (assuming only 2 hours are enough to predict).
I notice it has downloaded and is running a different core that the first problem. Interesting.
Does anyone know how we could go about petitioning FR to put up a team page and a link on the header or sidebar to give us more visibility.
Well, yer doggin me! ROFL. We keep swapping spots. All of mine have finally checked in. I see you've got 5 machines on the board. I got 2 smokers, 3 so-so and 3 also-rans. I may stick another couple in this coming week just for giggles.
I've noticed something similar. When a WU first starts, the time estimates seem to be way off. Once it's been running for a while and has more statistics for the current WU, the timings become more accurate.
Well, looks like you'll stay ahead of me for a while. I'm losing one of the machines tomorrow (2.8GHz Pentium.) My daughter brought her laptop over Thursday because it wouldn't boot. I figure that since she got a free multi-hundred dollar computer repair, I might as well use it for a couple WUs in the meantime. :-)
For those of you with more than one machine running, here's a handy little (open source) tool you can install to monitor F@H on all your boxes from one place. This is especially handy if you don't want to run monitors on all computers. It will work on both Windows and Linux boxes.
http://fahmon.silent-blade.org/
Yee Haw... i'm up to 10% of my first work unit!!! i might get on the board by spring.
4% in two days ??? Might be time to consider dumping AOL :) LOL
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