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Making a Martyr out of a Murderer (Warning - Language)
Dell Gines ^ | 13 December 2005 | Dell Gines

Posted on 12/19/2005 3:15:40 AM PST by rdb3

Making a Martyr out of a Murderer

Blogged under Social Commentary by Dell on Tuesday 13 December 2005 at

What will it take for black folk to truly start valuing themselves, and start working in unison to destroy those who devalue them? I ponder that question right now as I reflect on the article I read this morning, L.A. Crips Gang Founder Executed in Calif., by AP writer Kim Curtis. Being that I have only half way followed the Tookie Williams drama, reading this article today brought home the magnitude of psychosis and self-hating behavior so many of us black have embraced. This myopic diseased, distorted and debilitating mentality that expresses itself in so many ways amongst us in America. The mentality that at its core is black folk don’t matter, and black folk can be mocked, ridiculed and debased at every level of American culture, while we passively sit back and tolerate it, simply look the other way.

Don’t get it twisted, I am not talking about the execution of Tookie Williams by “The Man”, or by a “Corrupt System”, I am talking about the extoling of this nigga by so many people who are looked up to, and who are supposed leaders of OUR community. Check out the following:

…Singer Joan Baez, M A S H actor Mike Farrell and the Rev. Jesse Jackson were among the celebrities who protested the execution.

Among the celebrities who took up Williams’ cause were Jamie Foxx, who played the gang leader in a cable movie about Williams; rapper Snoop Dogg, himself a former Crip; Sister Helen Prejean, the nun depicted in “Dead Man Walking”; and Bianca Jagger. During Williams’ 24 years on death row, a Swiss legislator, college professors and others nominated him for the Nobel Prizes in peace and literature.

This is who these people fight for, a murderous, charismatic, death creating individual who reflexively after the damage was done felt the need to write books to salve his dirty soul. These people put themselves out there for a man who was the cornerstone of a ‘gangster’ movement that has left untold thousands of young black men dead or in prison, thousands more sons, daughters, and significant others alone. This man was a cornerstone of chaos and destruction, a wild mentality that held communities in fear, scared business and jobs away, and advanced the drug trading and death in so many areas of our nation. This is the man these people fight for.

Our young men are dying,
Our young men are being incarcerated at staggering proportions
Our young men are being irresponsible as men and fathers
Our young men are depressed and oppressed
Our young men are simply dropping out of existence

And Tookie is what these people fight for, and so many of you followed them into the fight for, a man who represents MOST vividly what a sellout is, a race traitor is…but he writes childrens books for the fatherless children that his cult of death helped propogate.

So Tookie needed to die and I don’t take that lightly nor joke about it like other buffoons, morons, and crackers have, but yes he did need to die. The time is now where we STOP making martyrs of those who destroy us from within, and we stop turning a blind eye to those who maliciously, seek to profit off of our destruction. Period. End of discussion.



TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: tookie
From a Hip-Hop perspective. Outside of L.A., Tookie was a nobody except to limousine liberals, black and white.

I don't take pleasure in anyone's death, but this murderer deserved it. And I'm happy to see that many Gen-X blacks, like myself, understand this and are not ashamed to say so.


1 posted on 12/19/2005 3:15:42 AM PST by rdb3
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To: mhking; Shade2; Trueblackman; brwnsuga; swheats; T Lady; Petronski; MikeinIraq; cyborg
Check it out.


2 posted on 12/19/2005 3:17:08 AM PST by rdb3 (I have named my greatest pain, and its name is Leftism.)
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To: rdb3
I didn't realize you were part of my generation.

BTW: The only folks here in Seattle that mourned Tookie were the Spartacist (Socialist) League. I haven't seen any black folk wearing Tookie t-shirts or participating in any protests, with the exception of one Professor from the U of W.

3 posted on 12/19/2005 3:24:59 AM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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To: Clemenza
I didn't realize you were part of my generation.

Why, do I sound like an old man or something? ;-)

I won't be 34 until this coming Thursday, and I'm Gen-X all the way.


4 posted on 12/19/2005 3:31:59 AM PST by rdb3 (I have named my greatest pain, and its name is Leftism.)
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To: rdb3

Well then.....Happy Birthday young man!!!!


5 posted on 12/19/2005 4:03:17 AM PST by ShutUpandSing
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To: rdb3

Good post.


6 posted on 12/19/2005 4:13:20 AM PST by Rocko ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: rdb3

Well said, sir.


7 posted on 12/19/2005 4:15:20 AM PST by MortMan (There is no substitute for victory.)
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To: rdb3

I so agree with that post. We need to start lifting up the positive members of our community. Yes the media reports are true, but if they began to focus on the brothers that are positive role models (and there are many) maybe some young me would be able to say
"this is what I want to be like" In my opinion, honoring Tookie is like honoring the devil himself.


8 posted on 12/19/2005 4:19:00 AM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: rdb3

Happy Birthday! Hopefully, your loved ones won't skimp on the presents because of Christmas.


9 posted on 12/19/2005 4:21:46 AM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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To: rdb3

Wow.....great thinking from this writer!!!


10 posted on 12/19/2005 4:23:46 AM PST by Loud Mime (Bad Lawmakers = Bad Law = Infinite Lawyers)
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To: rdb3

Happy 34th Birthday rdb3...followed by Merry Christmas and a Happy 2006


11 posted on 12/19/2005 5:22:55 AM PST by xp38
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Thanx, xp38. I ain't old, but I sure do feel like it.

brwnsuga, I agree that it would be wonderful if the MSM focussed on the more positive among us. But if it bleeds, it leads.

Although many said that it would happen, no rioting occurred. Maybe the fact that someone like Williams didn't spark anything because inner-city people know what it's like to have people like that in their neighborhood. I'm willing to wager that they want even more death sentences carried out on the thug element, however quiet.


12 posted on 12/19/2005 6:04:19 AM PST by rdb3 (I have named my greatest pain, and its name is Leftism.)
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To: rdb3
won't be 34 until this coming Thursday, and I'm Gen-X all the way.

Good Lord, when did Gen-X get so oooold?

</Boomer>

13 posted on 12/19/2005 6:07:57 AM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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Good Lord, when did Gen-X get so oooold?

When my nephews could beat me in tennis. Then the thought hit me, "I'm not 25 anymore!"


14 posted on 12/19/2005 7:27:45 AM PST by rdb3 (I have named my greatest pain, and its name is Leftism.)
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To: rdb3

Happy Birthday, and Merry Christmas to you!


15 posted on 12/19/2005 8:08:00 AM PST by Rocko ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: rdb3

I like Dell -- he and I talked a number of times during my blog-days. We have a lot in common, though like my younger-brother-from-another-mother, he uses more colorful metaphors than I do... [g]


16 posted on 12/19/2005 11:05:00 AM PST by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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