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Sen. Jay Rockefeller a Target?
American Thinker ^ | 01-09-06 | Clarice Feldman

Posted on 01/09/2006 12:10:55 PM PST by smoothsailing

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To: saveliberty

LOL!!!!

I didn't ping TOL!

on the ohone- can someone ping her...


61 posted on 01/09/2006 12:59:34 PM PST by eeevil conservative (courage is living in tyranny and speaking for freedom/not living in freedom and speaking for tyranny)
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To: gathersnomoss
I guarantee this will go nowhere. Remember....The Clinton FBI files. This guy is too powerful and will take down virtually everyone!

Move on.

Yep, just like the Barrett Report never seeing the light of day....

62 posted on 01/09/2006 12:59:59 PM PST by demkicker
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To: American Quilter
Correcting myself AGAIN--the memo I was trying to remember had to do with the Democrats' ongoing effort to undermine Americans' support for the war on terror, in this case by preparing to launch an "independent investigation".

Here's the full text of Rockefeller's memo. Certainly shows that his latest and previous activities are consistent.

We have carefully reviewed our options under the rules and believe we have identified the best approach. Our plan is as follows:

1) Pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials. We are having some success in that regard.

For example, in addition to the President's State of the Union speech, the chairman [Sen. Pat Roberts] has agreed to look at the activities of the office of the Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, as well as Secretary Bolton's office at the State Department.

The fact that the chairman supports our investigations into these offices and cosigns our requests for information is helpful and potentially crucial. We don't know what we will find but our prospects for getting the access we seek is far greater when we have the backing of the majority. [We can verbally mention some of the intriguing leads we are pursuing.]

2) Assiduously prepare Democratic 'additional views' to attach to any interim or final reports the committee may release. Committee rules provide this opportunity and we intend to take full advantage of it.

In that regard we may have already compiled all the public statements on Iraq made by senior administration officials. We will identify the most exaggerated claims. We will contrast them with the intelligence estimates that have since been declassified. Our additional views will also, among other things, castigate the majority for seeking to limit the scope of the inquiry.

The Democrats will then be in a strong position to reopen the question of establishing an Independent Commission [i.e., the Corzine Amendment.]

3) Prepare to launch an independent investigation when it becomes clear we have exhausted the opportunity to usefully collaborate with the majority. We can pull the trigger on an independent investigation of the administration's use of intelligence at any time. But we can only do so once.

The best time to do so will probably be next year, either:

A) After we have already released our additional views on an interim report, thereby providing as many as three opportunities to make our case to the public. Additional views on the interim report (1). The announcement of our independent investigation (2). And (3) additional views on the final investigation. Or:

B) Once we identify solid leads the majority does not want to pursue, we would attract more coverage and have greater credibility in that context than one in which we simply launch an independent investigation based on principled but vague notions regarding the use of intelligence.

In the meantime, even without a specifically authorized independent investigation, we continue to act independently when we encounter footdragging on the part of the majority. For example, the FBI Niger investigation was done solely at the request of the vice chairman. We have independently submitted written requests to the DOD and we are preparing further independent requests for information.

SUMMARY: Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. Yet we have an important role to play in revealing the misleading, if not flagrantly dishonest, methods and motives of senior administration officials who made the case for unilateral preemptive war.

The approach outlined above seems to offer the best prospect for exposing the administration's dubious motives.

63 posted on 01/09/2006 1:00:03 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: Prost1

This is something that'll be keep secret...excuse...due to National Security. Haven't you noticed how old Jaybird has gone completely silent? Didn't even hear anything out of him with the mine tragedy in his home state of W.VA....strange...


64 posted on 01/09/2006 1:00:08 PM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: American Quilter
Source for the memo provided in #63:

http://www.hillnews.com/news/110603/memo.aspx

It was published on Nov 6, 2003.

65 posted on 01/09/2006 1:04:13 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: Carolinamom
"Macsmind is reporting that Sen. Rockefeller may be the target of investigators examining the leak of classified information on the NSA surveillance program"

The operative word is May. Until the May is deleted, this remains wishful speculation.
66 posted on 01/09/2006 1:05:32 PM PST by sono (Every purple finger is a bullet in the chest of terrorism.)
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To: sono

You're absolutely right, but the very fact that his name has surfaced is interesting and sure to make him nervous.


67 posted on 01/09/2006 1:07:23 PM PST by Carolinamom (If you pursue happiness, you'll never find it. ---C.P. Snow)
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To: smoothsailing

what did they say about rocky in november?


68 posted on 01/09/2006 1:10:12 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: Carolinamom

oh thos would be sweet!!


69 posted on 01/09/2006 1:11:13 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: shield

"Haven't you noticed how old Jaybird has gone completely silent? Didn't even hear anything out of him with the mine tragedy in his home state of W.VA....strange...
"

Not really. He hasn't gone silent. Do search on Google News for "rockefeller sago mine" (no quotes). You'll find lots of statements in the media from him. Whether you like the statements or not, it's incorrect to say he has been silent.


70 posted on 01/09/2006 1:11:40 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: shield

From the NYT. Rockefeller has made several statements about this tragedy, and the media has reported them:

"Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, Democrat of West Virginia, met with several families of the dead miners on Thursday afternoon and then visited the Sago Baptist Church, the epicenter of the emotional explosion when anxious relatives were first told that all 11 miners had survived and then, about three hours later, that all but one had died."


71 posted on 01/09/2006 1:15:55 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: All

Off subject. Marcus Vick has been arrested, again. Brandishing a gun this time.


72 posted on 01/09/2006 1:18:37 PM PST by old_sage_says (Reading FreeRepublic each day is as normal to me as my "morning constitutional".)
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To: caryatid
RockefellerÂ’s Treachery
The Fifth Column/Joan Swirsky

November 29, 2005 - "I took a trip by myself in January of 2002 to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, and I told each of the heads of state that it was my view that George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq — that that was a predetermined set course which had taken shape shortly after 9/11."

So spoke Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) on “Fox Sunday” on November 14, 2005, who at the time of his trip was chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and is now its vice chairman.

Please read the first paragraph once again, digest it (if your stomach can handle it), and consider its immense – if not treasonous – implications.

By himself and fully armed with America’s most sensitive intelligence, Sen. Rockefeller decided to go to three Arab countries – including Syria which is on the State Department’s list of terrorist regimes and a close ally of Saddam Hussein – and literally alert them to what (“in my view”) might befall a neighboring Arab state.

This was Sen. RockefellerÂ’s judgment only four months after September 11th and a full year before President Bush had expressed any intention to go to war!

By its very nature, Sen. Rockefeller’s solo trip, his lofty rank on one of the senate’s most prestigious and sensitive committees, and most important his words were no doubt received for what they were – a clarion heads-up!

There is no doubt that even before he departed the palaces of his hosts, high officials from terrorist Syria, fair-weather-friend Saudi Arabia (that Sen. Rockefeller, with his Standard Oil inheritance, may feel very akin to), and even “moderate” Jordan, were telegraphing the president’s intentions to the Butcher of Baghdad: “Get ready! And whatever you have in the way of WMD, whatever can implicate us, get rid of them!”

What followed Sen. RockefellerÂ’s treachery was the lengthy and painstaking road to war and the prelude to ways that he and other leftists have tried to sabotage the president, compromise National Security and undermine our troops.

As author William J. Bennett has aptly asked: “What was Senator Rockefeller doing? What was he thinking? How about an investigation …into what exactly [he] told Syria and just what Syria might have done with the information…before it was made available to the U.N., the Senate, or the American people? Sen. Rockefeller may have seriously harmed, impeded, and hindered our war efforts, our troops, and the entire operation in the Middle East. This should be investigated immediately; and perhaps Senator Rockefeller should step down from the Intelligence Committee until an investigation is complete.”

What Happened Next – 2002

▪ January: the same month Sen. Rockefeller decided to give our enemies a heads-up, President Bush, in his State of the Union address, called Iraq part of the “axis of evil,” saying that the United States “will not permit the world's most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world's most destructive weapons.”

▪ June: the president spoke at West Point, telling his audience that a policy of preemption was necessary in the war on terror, i.e., we have to get them before they get us – again!

▪ September: the president addressed the United Nations and challenged that terrorist-embracing body to enforce its own 17 resolutions against Iraq, which it had never done in the past.

▪ October: Congress overwhelmingly authorized an attack on Iraq (Senate 77-23; House 296-133). In fact, Sen. Rockefeller said that the threat from Iraq was "imminent," an adjective the president never used.

▪ November: the U.N. Security Council unanimously approved resolution 1441 that imposed “tough” new arms inspections on Iraq and, the same month, U.N. weapons inspectors returned to Iraq for the first time in almost four years.

For all of this time, Security Council member France (among other obstructionists) strenuously resisted going to war against Iraq, significantly failing to acknowledge that they were deeply implicated in the Oil-for-Food scandal in which they took billions in SaddamÂ’s bribes. Thank you, Senator Rockefeller!

A full year elapsed and, with it, the grim first anniversary of the 3,000 innocent people who were murdered by Islamic terrorists on September 11th – also, a full year in which Iraq had both the means and opportunity to rid itself of its weapons of mass destruction. Thank you Senator Rockefeller!

COMPLETE ARTICLE HERE

73 posted on 01/09/2006 1:19:44 PM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Yeh.....I forgot bout his diving n driving school.....


74 posted on 01/09/2006 1:22:57 PM PST by litehaus
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To: smoothsailing
A leak about the leak. A congressmen is above the law you may wish otherwise but recent history records numerous infractions by our representatives that would have sent one of us average Joe's to the clinkity clink but no justice was handed down.
Examples ???
The House banking scandal
Barney Fags FP partner running a prostitution ring from his basement.
Howard Metzenbum permitting the release of classified documents in the Clearance Thomas hearings.
I'm sure that many of you can name others.
75 posted on 01/09/2006 1:24:27 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Pinging you too :-)


76 posted on 01/09/2006 1:40:49 PM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake and Bushbot)
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To: Carolinamom
What has also gone unremarked upon in the media......that there is considerable criticism of Governor Minchin.

He kept the information that the miners were presumed dead for a few hours.

The MSM is not commenting because Minchin is a democrat.

77 posted on 01/09/2006 1:44:54 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: MineralMan
When it's news, and there's confirmation, it'll make a great story. Until then, it's just another rumor.

I do not necessarily disagree with your statement ... and I never want to see anyone treated unfairly by the folks here on FRee Republic ... that is too much a shameless tactic of the hard left ... tell a lie often enough that sooner or later people will begin to believe it.

78 posted on 01/09/2006 1:47:12 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: saveliberty
Sen. Rockefeller may be the target of investigators examining the leak of classified information on the NSA surveillance program:

Golly I hope so!!!!!!!!

79 posted on 01/09/2006 1:48:13 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (I'll admit it , I'm a Snow Flake !)
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To: tiredoflaundry

In which case he gets to be frogmarched


80 posted on 01/09/2006 1:58:55 PM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake and Bushbot)
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