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Posted on 03/08/2006 4:41:48 AM PST by 8mmMauser

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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; Abby4116; Alissa; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
Thanks Coleus, Ohioan from Florida, Floriduh voter, for the ping to this thread:

Harm Done: Codifying the decline of the medical profession ( The Hippocratic Oath is dead)

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51 posted on 03/09/2006 2:11:55 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter
Thanks. One of the articles at the North Country Gazette sounds like Florida is going into the human junkyard and used body parts business.

TALLAHASSEE, FLA---A Tallahassee woman has filed a lawsuit against Tutogen Medical Inc. claiming that the material provided by the company for her bone transplant had been illegally harvested from a corpse which hadn’t been screened for HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

Woman Sues For Receiving Illegally Harvested Body Part

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52 posted on 03/09/2006 2:22:19 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit
Girls LOVE to hear those things

Here is a different version of events. I think you 'girls' did just fine.

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"On 13 January, to mark the 470th anniversary of the university, the Nazi Gauleiter--District Leader--of the city, Paul Giesler, gave a speech in the course of which he told the female students that it would be better for them to get on with giving the Fuhrer a child than wasting time on books; he even offered to put his henchmen at their service.:

"Several girls immediately left the hall in protest, only to be arrested at the exit. This led to a demonstration, in the course of which the Nazi Student Leader was dragged from the podium, beaten up, and declared a hostage against the release of the girls."

"The Nazis telephoned the police, who promptly arrived and broke up the meeting. This was the first student demonstration against the Nazis in Munich, and it stimulated the Gestapo to redouble its efforts to find the originators of the White Rose. "

http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Holocaust/gill-white-rose.html

53 posted on 03/09/2006 3:57:24 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: 8mmMauser
U.S. House Members or Senators toll free at:

#1-877-762-8762

Remind them on Friday, March 31st that it's the first anniversary of Terri Schiavo's judicial murder. (no point in bothering with Florida legislature in Tallahassee. Nine Republican Senators voted for Terri's murder: Senator Jim King, Sen. Nancy Argenziano, Sen. Dennis Jones, Sen. Mike Bennett, and five other names.)

I'll re-post some jpegs before the 31st including their's.

54 posted on 03/09/2006 6:22:29 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: 8mmMauser
This one adds a whole new meaning to separating the sheep from the goats :-)

>> Fire Chief Charged With Bestiality

MESA, ARIZ---A deputy chief of the Mesa Fire Department has been placed on paid leave after being arrested for allegedly engaging in bestiality with a neighbor’s lamb.

LeRoy Johnson, 52, was charged with trespassing, disorderly conduct and public sexual indecency after the neighbor’s teenage daughter reported seeing Johnson taking the lamb into the barn owned by Alan Goats.

Officers of the Maricopa County sheriff’s department arrested Johnson at his residence after Goats and another man said they found him in the barn with the animal. Johnson has allegedly admitted to trespassing but has denied the other charges. 3-7-06

55 posted on 03/09/2006 6:30:59 PM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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To: bjs1779
The sign Nazi Florida at Terri's 2003 Vigil comes to mind.

The Gestapo showed up for the 2005 Vigil to set up numerous checkpoints for the family and for crowd control. One of the gestapo said "I don't care if the President of the United States wants to get through here. Nobody's getting through."

That was a checkpoint at the street entrance where people were held back while children were being arrested for stepping on the sidewalk.

Florida is the Starvation State and was a good place for the feds to practice their tactics on innocent vigilers. I've told Congressman Dave Weldon what it's like to be Americans and have weapons pointed at us so that this woman, Terri could be murdered for all the death worshippers in death central, Pinellas County, FL.

www.judgegeorgegreer.com

56 posted on 03/09/2006 6:31:21 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: T'wit

pretty baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.


57 posted on 03/09/2006 6:35:21 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: T'wit

Sounds like a case of he said sheep said to me.


58 posted on 03/09/2006 6:36:10 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: 8mmMauser
Looking back last year, all the law enforcement and every branch was at Hospice Woodside, they were in defiance of even the President of the United States the first week.

Greer had some sweet deal going to have law enforcement under his command. How does a probate judge have control of all manner of law enforcement? Why hasn't that ever been investigated?

59 posted on 03/09/2006 6:39:10 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: floriduh voter

The fire chief couldn't help himself. He heard, "There'll never be another ewe."


60 posted on 03/09/2006 6:40:28 PM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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To: T'wit; floriduh voter

That is the wrong impression people get when one innocently tries to help the poor thing over the fence. At least he chose sheep over Goats and didn't pull the wool over their eyes, but now we know he is on the lamb.


61 posted on 03/09/2006 6:46:02 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter

That is the still untold megastory of the year. It defies explanation.


62 posted on 03/09/2006 6:47:55 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; cyn
Terri Wake up and Big Eyes for the doctor


63 posted on 03/09/2006 6:50:01 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: T'wit

I need to ck Charlie Crist's donations for governor's race to see if John Travolta, et al have donated to his campaign. Travolta believes humans came from spaceships all dreamed up by sci-fi author Ron Hubbard who's been deceased for years.


64 posted on 03/09/2006 6:57:51 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: floriduh voter

Ah Hah, the Kleerwater Kritters


65 posted on 03/09/2006 7:01:49 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Here's a blog dedicated to last March. Chilling.

http://members.aol.com/linden59/

66 posted on 03/09/2006 7:02:54 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

You talk funny.


67 posted on 03/09/2006 7:04:29 PM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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To: 8mmMauser
Remember this scene? I think this was from week 1 and the very graphic sign wasn't up that long. There were a lot of nazi and holocaust referenced signage throughout this shameful act by the govt. Yes, boys and girls, the government did interfere by promoting and planning Terri's murder right down to hiring extra Wackenhut guards to make sure that Terri would not survive her torture.


68 posted on 03/09/2006 7:20:08 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

69 posted on 03/09/2006 7:27:41 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: floriduh voter

Bone chilling reminder. I remember the cop power walks and the SWAT teams there to protect the killing procedure. We were the enemy, literally at gunpoint.


70 posted on 03/09/2006 7:30:24 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

http://whyaretheydead.net/


71 posted on 03/09/2006 7:39:51 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: 8mmMauser
You had to be there is an apt way to put it.

That made me as sick as what was going inside at Hospice Woodside. Not only had Terri been denied her rights and outside it didn't feel like we were in our country.

Just saying it was awful is an understatement. It was brutal.

72 posted on 03/09/2006 7:43:49 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: T'wit
Cheryl Ford's book:

http://www.fight4terri.com/main/

73 posted on 03/09/2006 7:50:52 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: floriduh voter
>> Travolta believes humans came from spaceships all dreamed up by sci-fi author Ron Hubbard

The only thing that surprises me about entertainers is finding one who's normal. Most of them compete frantically -- and with spectacular success -- to see who can be the most idiotic and depraved.

74 posted on 03/10/2006 4:11:31 AM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; Abby4116; Alissa; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
On another thread by NYer, with thanks to TheSarce, Coleus<

So why is there an extended wait for kids with special needs, who are usually more difficult to place with families? The reason might be: the growing acceptance of aborting babies with Down syndrome.

Down Syndrome and the Pressure to Abort

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75 posted on 03/10/2006 5:15:47 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Once again, we can take heart in the rightness of our efforts by seeing who hate us. Here is a work from People's Weekly World and written by John Conyers, Jr., Ranking Democrat on the Judiciary.

If the communists liked us and if the democrats liked us and if the death lovers liked us we should be worried indeed.

And they plucked this from their pals at dailykos at that.

Why we act

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76 posted on 03/10/2006 5:26:24 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter
Terri's death was horrific. And our officials, who were just fine with it, go around telling other countries to apparently be more like us. And then there were all those illegal and/or sadistic stunts pulled by Judge Greer and Michael.
77 posted on 03/10/2006 5:27:53 AM PST by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser
Well, fancy that, the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee writing for the Communists. Where have you gone, Joe McCarthy!

Here is how PWW describes itself. (Evidently the McCarthyite "Reign of Terror" is over in this country because they brag about what was once regarded as sedition.)

The People’s Weekly World / Nuestro Mundo is a national, grassroots weekly newspaper and the direct descendant of the Daily Worker....

The PWW is known for its partisan coverage. We take sides — for truth and justice. We are partisan to the working class, racially and nationally oppressed peoples, women, youth, seniors, international solidarity, Marxism and socialism. We enjoy a special relationship with the Communist Party USA, founded in 1919, and publish its news and views.

78 posted on 03/10/2006 5:44:41 AM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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To: 8mmMauser
PWW (Conyers): "...the tragic Terri Schiavo case..."

They ALWAYS call it "tragic" because they support a tragic result: Terri's death. It's like saying, with the bioethicists, "This is a tragic case. Kill her!"

79 posted on 03/10/2006 5:48:07 AM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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To: 8mmMauser
Check this out some time: NDE site takes surprising stand in favor of euthanasia (Look under the heading "NDEs and Suicide.") You would think a site that foresees life after death would pay some attention to God's law and especially to the price of violating God's law. But no. One entry on euthanasia, another on vegetative state (badly misinformed about Terri), yet another long essay arguing the case for "right to die" that focuses, again, on Terri.

Major Puke alert. This is straight out of the Hemlock Society handbook.

80 posted on 03/10/2006 6:12:08 AM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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To: bjs1779
The White Rose students summoned more courage than we can imagine, proclaiming that the war was lost into the teeth of Nazi propaganda. The whole Nazi image was centered in strength, military might, the master race. It had to be intolerable to the Nazi top brass to hear such "defeatism."

But it was true. The soldiers in the White Rose group had seen the end. Even as Giesler spoke, the whole eastern front was crumbling in the last days of the Battle of Stalingrad. A few days later, von Paulus's entire army had to surrender. They were starved, frozen and all shot to pieces. After that pivotal and overwhelming defeat, Germany had nothing left capable of stopping the massed Soviet forces advancing on Berlin.

Small wonder the White Rose students were executed so quickly. Germany could not afford to hear the truth. I believe the White Rose actually helped to shorten the war and to save many lives.

81 posted on 03/10/2006 6:36:32 AM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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To: bjs1779; BykrBayb; 8mmMauser
The Bioethicists and "right-to-die" advocates are soul brothers with the Nazis. There is no difference in their arguments.

Nazi euthanasia and sterilization program text

82 posted on 03/10/2006 6:44:25 AM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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To: floriduh voter

I quit reading halfway through, but it confirms my thoughts on Scientology. Jim Jones, and the Nike sneaker bunch(Hale Bop?) don't have jack on them. Maybe we should keep Katie Holmes in our thoughts and prayers.

The sheer number of deaths listed on that website is nuts. Where is law enforcement???


83 posted on 03/10/2006 10:53:10 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: 8mmMauser

Re: Why We Act. Conyers is just a typical Democrat, and maybe a "fellow traveler". Life is not a popularity contest, and I'm as stubborn as they come. I'd rather stand up as best I can for what I believe in, than be popular. Maybe Mr. Conyers might want to explore that approach.


84 posted on 03/10/2006 1:24:21 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
>> Where is law enforcement???

On the rooftops around Woodside Hospice.

85 posted on 03/10/2006 1:26:59 PM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Where is law enforcement???

Are You Being Abused?

A WEB PAMPHLET BY THE PINELLAS PARK POLICE DEPARTMENT


86 posted on 03/10/2006 2:50:16 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: floriduh voter

Just between you and I, I am still a little steamed that Gibbs called the FBI on the Michigan Militia.


87 posted on 03/10/2006 4:22:48 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
Gibbs is a friend of Jeb's lawyer Ken Connor. It was a catch 22 and everyone wanted to remain friends after Terri was starved to death.

The day that Terri died, there was a person from Washington, D.C. who asked us to take down the signs about Jeb and about Judge Greer. Like that was going to happen.

The erasure of Terri's state sponsored murder started on the date of her death. They couldn't wait to shut up Americans exercising their free speech rights right after Terri died. I mean, it was only a half an hour after she passed and D.C. wanted us to pretend that nothing happened. Sure nothing happened.

88 posted on 03/10/2006 4:51:18 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: floriduh voter

Post 63. Is that not purposeful activity? Of course it is. Terri was murdered.


89 posted on 03/10/2006 4:52:31 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Law enforcement in Florida. The worst police in the US are in Pinellas Park, Fl. The Clearwater Police took forever to investigate the false charges that the Schindlers stuck Terri w/a needle. It was marks from the haier (sp lift and the nurse said so right away. Felos held a press conference before the nurse at hospice even reported the marks. Then Terri was without her parents, etc. in Easter of 2004 through Mother's Day. It's at the World Net Daily archives.

Terri's mom's last mother's day w/Terri was in 2003 thanks to the Clearwater PD working for Greer and Michael S.

Clearwater PD are thick as thieves with Greer and the other corrupt judges in Pinellas-Pasco. They even laughed at Terri at a Rotary Luncheon (the Clearwater PD that is).

90 posted on 03/10/2006 5:02:57 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Law enforcement in Florida. The worst police in the US are in Pinellas Park, Fl. The Clearwater Police took forever to investigate the false charges that the Schindlers stuck Terri w/a needle. It was marks from the haier (sp lift and the nurse said so right away. Felos held a press conference before the nurse at hospice even reported the marks. Then Terri was without her parents, etc. in Easter of 2004 through Mother's Day. It's at the World Net Daily archives.

Terri's mom's last mother's day w/Terri was in 2003 thanks to the Clearwater PD working for Greer and Michael S.

Clearwater PD are thick as thieves with Greer and the other corrupt judges in Pinellas-Pasco. They even laughed at Terri at a Rotary Luncheon (the Clearwater PD that is).

91 posted on 03/10/2006 5:03:36 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: floriduh voter

hiccup.


92 posted on 03/10/2006 5:04:48 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: Dante3; 8mmMauser; Ohioan from Florida
And here's Sandra Day O' Connor whining about Republican attacks on judges. (well, uh, they are judicial despots and they deserve criticism and some deserve prison time too).

This is an audio link:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5255712

93 posted on 03/10/2006 5:32:57 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: floriduh voter
Terri died. I mean, it was only a half an hour after she passed and D.C. wanted us to pretend that nothing happened. Sure nothing happened.

You're right FV. All subpoenas issued were cancelled due to 'recent developments'. Lets move on....

94 posted on 03/10/2006 5:44:07 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: 8mmMauser
Could you ping to this article? It has important information, and is a very interesting read. The eugenics movement seems to be pretty active in the UK now.

Inside story: spinal muscular atrophy
Doctors want to let a disabled baby die, on the ground that his existence will be intolerable. But who are they to judge quality of life, argues Spike Breakwell, who was also written off as a child
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There’s a 17-month-old lad, named baby MB, whose parents are going through the courts at the moment on his behalf. He has SMA. The doctors caring for him want to withdraw his life support as they suspect that his quality of life will be intolerable. His parents, somewhat understandably, don’t want them to do this.
-snip-

95 posted on 03/10/2006 9:37:14 PM PST by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: BykrBayb; All
Abortion survivor likens her ordeal to Terri's

When a doctor makes a mistake, the patient dies. When an abortionist makes a mistake, the patient lives. Gianna Jessen was aborted by saline solution but lived to tell the story -- and what a story it is!

The doctor told Penny [foster mother] that she should give up on the thought of Jessen progressing beyond a vegetative state.

"Doesn't this language sound strangely familiar?" Jessen asked. "Didn't we hear the same language over and over last March in regards to a woman named Terri Schiavo?

"So my point being ... we cannot take the lives of weak people just because they make us uncomfortable," she said. "Just maybe those weak people might be forcing us to deal with the issues in our own souls."

Jessen explained how she could relate to Schiavo, who survived for 13 days after being deprived of food and water, because Jessen had the same will to live as a struggling infant.

"When you want to live, you fight," Jessen said. "The person, whether or not she can speak, is speaking volumes by the fact that she will not give in to death .... [So] this has gotten me thinking about why in the world we are so eager to end the lives of weak people...."

96 posted on 03/10/2006 10:08:35 PM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; Abby4116; Alissa; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
Ping to post #95 from BykrBayb. This is a powerful description of what is happening in the UK and is coming here as fast as they plow through resistance.

The same condition was diagnosed when I was younger, although, in fact, I never had the exact condition that baby MB has. What actually made me disabled was the oral polio vaccine I had when I was 4 months old (I’m now 37). My problem is that my muscles have atrophied, the root cause being in the spine.

On another topic, the survivor of abortion is in the news again...

A Near-Death Experience

Jessen is an abortion survivor who now spends her life speaking up for the speechless. She was invited to meet the president on August 5, 2002, as a result of her standing before Congress and testifying on behalf of the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act that Bush signed into law that day.

Abortion Survivor ... Rescued, Redeemed and Running the Good Race

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97 posted on 03/11/2006 4:06:20 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit

Sorry, I posted before reading..............


98 posted on 03/11/2006 4:07:51 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Yours is a definite improvement with the photo and the link in big red type :-)


99 posted on 03/11/2006 4:18:14 AM PST by T'wit (C'est une folie a nulle autre seconde, / De vouloir se meler a corriger le monde. -- Moliere)
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Bobby Schindler will be in Dublin in a few days.

DUBLIN, Ireland, Mar. 10 /Christian Wire Service/ -- The Fourth International Conference Life and the Family, being held in Dublin, Ireland, is now just two weeks away. Amazing speakers have all confirmed their attendance and are looking forward to this exciting opportunity to meet supporters of life and family from around the world.

This year’s conference will also focus on issues facing families, parents and young people today. One of the most inspiring speakers will be Brandi Swindell, who has long been a campaigner for the rights of the unborn. Brandi will speak on one of the hardest and most pressing issues to face young people today; chastity.

Terri Schiavo's Brother Featured at Fourth International Conference on Life and the Family--Dublin, March 24-26, 2006

I met and helped Brandi Swindell and friends at Pinellas Park and was amazed that such a young and pleasant lady could be so packed with energy and talent. She has carried her efforts to success untiringly.

She is the kind of success that must make the feminists wince.

8mm

100 posted on 03/11/2006 4:18:30 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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