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Cub Scout Troop-Den leader is a moonbat--help.

Posted on 03/20/2006 6:32:32 AM PST by Pondman88

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1 posted on 03/20/2006 6:32:36 AM PST by Pondman88
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To: SandRat; Scoutmaster

It is rare to find liberal leaders in Scouting. I don't know much about Cub Scouting so I am pinging some others who may.


2 posted on 03/20/2006 6:35:10 AM PST by MarMema (Buy Danish, support freedom)
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To: Pondman88

Is he a good Den leader? Does he push politics on the kids? If not, whats the big deal?


3 posted on 03/20/2006 6:35:12 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Pondman88

Seperate his politics from your relationship. When he has his "moments", just nod and vaguely stare at the sky. We've all lost friends to BDS [Bush Derangement Syndrome] and PEST [Post Election Stress Trauma]. Its not worth it.

If he's a good scout leader, and doesn't use his position to prosyltize your son, just let it be.


4 posted on 03/20/2006 6:35:29 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Pondman88
Am I overreacting?

Yes.

5 posted on 03/20/2006 6:36:34 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Pondman88; sure_fine

Get a Bush-Cheney '04 bumper sticker on your car's back window, and see what happens. Make sure he sees it. That'll tell you what he's all about, if he goes off on you.


6 posted on 03/20/2006 6:36:37 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: Pondman88

You might want to quietly bring it up with his superiors, if it seems to be a problem. Or make sure you (or someone else) can be there with the den so that he doesn't spout off in front of the kids.


7 posted on 03/20/2006 6:37:39 AM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Pondman88

If he's not bringing up politics with the Cub Scouts, then I wouldn't worry about it. They have a "Citizenship" or similar requirement for their advancement (if your son is a Wolf Cub); presumably the leader will do this requirement with the boys according to the handbook.


8 posted on 03/20/2006 6:38:29 AM PST by Tax-chick (Welcome to my nightmare. It takes some getting used to!)
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To: Pondman88

You can't lock your family in the house and hope they never get exposed to ideas you do not like.

Your best course is to have a strong enough relationship with them so they know they can come to you and talk about what they are hearing/seeing.


9 posted on 03/20/2006 6:38:42 AM PST by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Spruce

Good points--thanks for the replies!!

I just have this reaction to people I think are nuts....
He is a mediocre Den Leader, but he is taking the time to do it, so I give him credit for that.

His wife is a big lib as well, so she pushed him into the Den leader thing...they seem to want to overcompensate for their liberalism. I suspect he won't be doing it very long anyways.


10 posted on 03/20/2006 6:45:05 AM PST by Pondman88
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To: Pondman88
Am I putting my opinions ahead of friendship and being a good neighbor?

No. Once this guy told you he was going to an anti-war rally he voluntarily entered the area of politics, and this would give anyone a "heads up" concerning his political and social views.

Apparently he expects you to agree with his views, since he is a liberal,or he wouldn't have mentioned the rally.

If you look at the pathology of liberals, and their thirst for ideology over substance, you have a right to be concerned about your son.

Put the best interests of your son first, and let your friendship with your liberal neighbor follow its own course.

11 posted on 03/20/2006 6:53:14 AM PST by Noachian (To control the courts the people must first control their Congress.)
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To: Pondman88
Try this link here and see where you stand in regard to the goals.
12 posted on 03/20/2006 7:11:43 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: Jeff Head

Scouting ping


13 posted on 03/20/2006 7:12:47 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: Pondman88

I am a wolf cub den leader (2nd graders, 7-8 year olds). There isn't much latitude to go off on political tangents, and, unfortunately, there isn't much latitude to go off on religious tangents either, so, unless the guy is deviating from the curriculum from the Boy Scouts, your son should be ok. Even liberals must address the basic requirements, such as citizenship, patriotism, personal responsibility, etc..


14 posted on 03/20/2006 9:39:19 AM PST by Left Coast Refugee (Abandoned by the GOP on the Left Coast)
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To: Pondman88
Now, the best thing is to get involved yourself and see what is getting passed along in meetings. The only thing you have to do is buy a shirt.

Keep this all in mind because if you like involvement well enough, you could end up being his kid's Webelos Leader and he would be saying to his wife, "Do you think Pondman is going to teach our kid automatic weapon's skills?"

15 posted on 03/20/2006 9:45:33 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: KC Burke

Very funny!!!


16 posted on 03/20/2006 10:00:31 AM PST by Pondman88
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To: Pondman88
Download and review Cub Scout Leader Fast Start

17 posted on 03/20/2006 10:07:24 AM PST by Uriíel-2012 (Trust in YHvH forever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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On a serious note, that comment about, "..all you need to be a leader is a shirt." is what my neighbor down the street used to get me involved as my oldest went into Tiger Cubs. Spent 13 years as an adult scouter thereafter and develped some of my finest memories of time with my sons. I served as a Den Leader for Bears, Assistant Cubmaster, Webelos Leader, Scout Committee Member and Citizenship Merit Badge Counselor and High Adventure Leader for two seperate trips to the Boundry Waters.

My oldest went on to very high responsibility within the District as a youth leader and was involved in making a National Scouting Video on leadership for Scouts and Scouters. Besides appearing in that video, he does a voice-over to one of the segments where he talks about my involvement extemporanously. When I first saw the video and heard his comments about "his dad", he was about twenty, I almost came to tears and I thanked God for the efforts I had been allowed to extend to he and his friends.

So I will tell you truely: Buy that shirt.

18 posted on 03/20/2006 10:21:27 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: Pondman88; MarMema

Talk to the Cubmaster of the Pack of your concerns and about moving your son to a different Den, Talk to the Unit Commissioner, and the Dictrict Commissioner, Find another Pack, --- all option in the order given.


19 posted on 03/20/2006 10:24:58 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Pondman88; MarMema

Talk to the Cubmaster of the Pack of your concerns and about moving your son to a different Den, Talk to the Unit Commissioner, and the Dictrict Commissioner, Find another Pack, --- all option in the order given.


20 posted on 03/20/2006 10:25:03 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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