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Mary Mapes: In Defense Of Dan Rather
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Posted on 06/07/2006 8:58:30 AM PDT by MindBender26

(NOTE TO FReaders. I would not normally alter the basic article, but it so full of delusional thoughts and outright lines that direct attribution is needed so FReader will see what is being references, much like DUmmie Funnies from PJ Comix)

STORY FOLLOWS

By Mary Mapes

My first thought when I read the NY Post's latest Page Six item on Dan Rather was that Dan must have missed a hush money payment or something. Reading on, I realized this was actually an opening publicity volley for a new book, one that is probably guaranteed a small but ready readership. (IT WILL PROBABLY BE A BEST SELLER)

Hardcore conservatives will rush to buy it (YOU BETCHA!)since it apparently echoes their deeply held biases (NOW HISTORY AND REALITY ARE "BIASES"?) about Dan. CBS employees will buy it, as well, just to see who is mad at whom. Of course, that is not necessarily great news for the author since so few people are still working at CBS News.

I know. I used to be one of them.

For 16 years, I produced reports for the CBS Evening News and 60 Minutes II. I was the producer on Dan's team when we broke the story of prison abuse at Abu Ghraib, an investigative piece that won the Peabody last year. A few months earlier, I had been fired for my work on a report about George W. Bush's military record. (NO, ACTUALLY YOU WERE FIRED FOR LYING TO THE TASK FORCE SET UP BY CBS TO INVESTIGATE THE REPORT AND YOUR INCREDIBLY SLOPPY WORK ON THAT REPORT, OR IN THE ABSENCE OF SLOPPY WORK, A DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO LIE ABOUT W AND ELECT JOHN KERRY)

Page Six restates the conservative canard that our report "was found to be based on forged documents." That is just not true, no matter how many times Page Six or the Washington Times or some bitter conservative blogger repeats it. (WELL, IT SEEMS THAT CBS AND EVERYONE ELSE AGREES THAT THEY WERE FORGERIES.... BUT OF COURSE, YOU ARE RIGHT, MARY)

The Bush National Guard story is a fascinating and terribly under-covered topic, full of Texas-style intrigue, privilege and political skullduggery. I mean, talk about selective service. At the height of the Vietnam War, the future president was able to select where he served, how he served and when he served. He even got to select his departure date. (THAT OPTION WAS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. IT WAS CALLED THE ENLISTMENT OPTION)

When our story aired on September 8, 2004, it was savaged in an unprecedented outpouring of political vitriol. (ACTUALLY, IT WAS SAVAGED BY AN UNPRECEDENTED OUTPOURING OF TRUTH FROM PEOPLE WHO DID THE HOMEWORK YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE) The Bush administration was then at the height of its ability to summon a terrifying whirlwind of criticism from right wing bloggers, hate talk radio yackers, FOX News "reporters," conservative columnists, and those hollering people whose heads always appear in little boxes on cable discussion shows. (AH, YES.... IT'S ALL SO ROVIAN) None of these critics cared anything about the facts of the story, (FACTS? DO THE TERMS "FORGERY" AND "TRUTH" RING A BELL?) only about their politics.

They (AND THE REST OF AMERICA) claimed that CBS used forged documents and they repeated that lie (TRUTH) so often that it stuck. The mainstream media picked it up, repeating bloggers' criticisms without making any serious effort to investigate the story. (IT WAS INVESTIGATED BY HUNDREDS OF "QUESTIONABLE DOCUMENT" EXPERTS, ALL OF WHOM ADREED THEY WERE BS. WHY DIDN'T YOU GO BEYIND THE FEW YOU USED, AND EVEN THEN, THEY SAID THEY COULD NOT CONFIRM THE DOCUMENTS)) But then that would have required real legwork, something that very few were willing to do on this subject. (SO HOW COME "THEY" GOT IT RIGHT, AND YOU GOT IT ALL SO WRONG... AND MARY, I'VE SEEN YOUR LEGS. NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO BRING UP HERE.)

As for document analysis, it is a mind-numbing and arcane discipline, an imperfect undertaking reserved for courtroom use, not for headlines (YOU WERE THE ONES WHO HEADLINED IT!) or Internet political battles. Document analysis is certainly not meant to be done at 11 o'clock at night by someone with no training or experience sitting in front of a glowing computer nursing a grudge and spoiling for a fight. But that's precisely how the right's attack against Dan Rather and CBS News was launched. (ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE TRIUMPH OF EVIL IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING. TOO BAD FR'S "BUCKHEAD" WAS 100% RIGHT)

That first anonymous analyst (who turned out to be a Republican activist lawyer) raised questions about the memo using only a single shot of a faxed document digitally transmitted to his computer screen. (TOO BAD, WHEN YOU HAD THE ORIGINALS, THAT YOU COULDN'T SEE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS SEEN THE ORIGINALS HAS SEEN..... THAT THEY ARE FORGERIES!) Those kinds of transmissions radically change the way a document looks. His analysis was worthless (IT WAS CORRECT, THOUGH, WASN'T IT? DOES ACCURACY MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU?)

The laundry list of problems that critics claimed they saw in the memos has turned out to be bunk. (GEE, MARY, ALL THE EXPERTS SAY THEY ARE FORGERIES... IS THAT "BUNK?") There never has been any definitive proof that they were forged or falsified in any way, despite a multi-million dollar investigation into the story by Viacom. (MARY, YOU ARE DELUSIONAL)

The reasons we put them on the air remain valid: (TO TRY TO DESTROY THE PRESIDENT) the content of the memos was corroborated by people familiar with Bush, his unit and his commander; the dates, times and details intricately matched what we know of the record; and two experienced and respected document analysts, who examined copies that had not been faxed or digitally recreated, concluded that the papers showed every indication of being real. (YOU ARE DELUSIONAL.... AND LYING)

I don't believe we will know the truth about the memos until after the Bush team is out of office and people with information are no longer afraid to come forward. (AH, THE ROVIANS AGAIN... OR IT THE JEWS AND THE BICYCLE RIDERS?)

Viacom, CBS's parent company, (ACTUALLY, YOU, MARY)never did care whether the story was true or not. They just wanted rid of it. Among other things, they had multiple issues pending before the FCC and various other arms of the administration and our story was no help to the company in its quest to squeeze every last dime out of what used to be the public airwaves. Firing longtime employees (LIARS LIKE YOU) in an attempt to get back into the administration's good graces was simply a business decision. (AH YES... THE ROVIANS AGAIN) It had nothing to do with journalism or the crucial role that critical reporting is supposed to play in American democracy. (sT. MARY SPEAKS)

The whole incident also opened the floodgates on criticism of Dan Rather, inside and outside of CBS. (LONG OVERDUE)

In this upcoming book, Morley Safer recounts a 40-year-old anecdote in which Dan reportedly told a group of Marines that Morley "should have been shot dead" for his controversial reporting on the burning of a Vietnamese village. I have no idea if the story is true, but it doesn't sound right to me. Of course, I have no real insight because I was in grade school at the time. What amazes me is that apparently Morley doesn't know whether it is true, either. He says he has never talked to Dan about it. (CAN'T YOU SEE THAT CONVERSATION; "HEY DAN, DID YOU TRY TO GET MARINES TO KILL ME?) But he has been steaming over this since the days when women wore go-go boots. Still, he describes his relationship with Dan as "polite". Apparently this kind of public sniping is what passes for "polite" in certain corners at CBS News.

This is what I know. There are decades-long blood feuds still going strong there, ancient hatreds triggered by big egos, big salaries and sometimes, big emotional problems. 60 Minutes Sunday is not only an important news broadcast, it is also something of a comedic cross between a retirement home and a small town high school cheerleading squad. There is a lot of hair tossing and skirt flipping, along with brutal competition and vicious gossiping. (TRANSLATION: YOUNG WOMEN AT 60 MINUTES TRIED TO GET AHEAD BY SLEEPING WITH THE BIG NAME REPORTERS AND PRODUCERS0 The squad members are self-absorbed and self-obsessed. When one girl falls or trips, the others snicker with delight. There have been resentments left simmering for so long in the CBS News offices that they have become part of the furniture.

Frankly, I loved working there. It was entertaining as hell. But I don't miss it.

My own theory about why Dan seems to drive some of his colleagues so crazy is pretty mundane. I think he is a hard-working, ambitious, driven individual who committed the great sin of reaching the peak of his profession. Dan wielded his influence and made decisions in ways that some didn't like, but then that happens in every workplace in America. Only at CBS do high profile employees turn up constantly in public openly attacking someone who has for years had the grace to keep from answering in kind. You never see this kind of internal fighting explode at ABC or NBC or even FOX. It's a shame that no one in leadership at CBS has ever had the guts to tell these guys to grow up and shut up. (ACTUALLY, IT IS OTHER EMPLOYEES FED UP WITH YOUR USING AIR TIME TO LIE AND PROMOTE YOUR PERSONAL LEFT-WING CAUSES)

Sadly, CBS has a tribal ritual of making a rough transition from one anchor to another.

Rough, that is, on the anchor being replaced. Even old Uncle Walter was "disappeared" for years after leaving the anchor chair. At least he didn't have to dodge spears as he left the village. (OH, POOR DAN!)

The political types who have treated Dan Rather as their own personal voodoo doll for decades are just as bad. To them, Dan is the personification of big media and they resent everything from his coverage of the civil rights movement to his work on Watergate. They still seethe about his attempt to get then-Vice President George H.W. Bush to answer a question during a live interview that dissolved into a shouting match in the late 1980s. (bs, RATHER LIED TO GET THE INTERVIEW THEN HAD A HISSY FIT ON THE AIR) To me, that was a fascinating face-off between a hardnosed reporter and an evasive politician. (YES, MARY, WE REALIZE THAT THAT WAS WHAT IT WAS TO YOU. THAT VERIFIES MANY THINGS!)

To his political enemies, the confrontation was further proof that Dan was a Communist. Good grief, he's from Texas. (SO WAS LEE HARVEY OSWALD)

For what it is worth, here is my take on Dan Rather, after years of dragging our tired selves through hurricanes, war zones, prisons and political battles.

I have never seen Dan Rather behave in a cruel way. I have never heard him trash a fellow reporter at CBS in anything approaching the way he has been talked about publicly. I have seen him work his butt off in terrible conditions, stay up all night to get the facts right, and help younger, greener reporters struggling with tough stories. (SAINT DAN!) I have seen him give away his coat in freezing weather to someone whose teeth were chattering. (SAINT DAN 2.0 TOO BAD HE DIDN'T CARE THE SAME ABOUT GETTING THE STORY RIGHT) He is a good guy and a great reporter, simply one of the best, as tireless and true blue as this country has ever seen. (MARY, OH MARY. BACK ON THE THORAZINE!)

To me and to many, many others at CBS News who have worked with him over the years, Dan Rather is a kind and honorable man. We are not the Morley Safers, Don Hewitts, or Mike Wallaces. We are just a bunch of producers and cameramen, associate producers and editors, researchers and soundmen, lighting directors and makeup people who worked with Dan rather than competing against him. Frankly, I would hate to compete with him. He's tough. (MARY, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OBVIOUS IT HAS BECOME THAT YOU WERE ONE OF HIS MANY CONQUESTS, BUT DIDN'T KNOW A ONE NIGHT STAND WHEN YOU HAD IT?)

CBS News is filled with wonderful and talented people who take their jobs rather than themselves seriously. Then there is this handful of boldface names quoted repeatedly in tabloids, always taking a swipe at someone. It is sad. (TOO BAD YOU YOU DIDN'T FIT INTO THE FIRST CATEGORY.... OR DON;T RECOGNISE THAT YOU HAVE DEVOTED YOUR CURRENT CAREER TO TAKING SWIPED AT THE PRESIDENT)

A quote many at CBS News attribute to Charles Osgood sums up the sometimes brutal atmosphere in the news division. Years ago, he supposedly described the tension there by saying that "things have gotten so bad, people are stabbing each other in the chests". (FELL FREE TO SELF INDULGE, MARY)

Reading the New York Post's snarky item from this new book, all I could think of was how little things have changed. Good luck, Katie. (WOMEN OF THE WORLD ARISE!)


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: bush; cbs; danrather; killian; mapes; marymapes; memos; nationalguard; rather; rathergate
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1 posted on 06/07/2006 8:58:33 AM PDT by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26
Ph pull-eeze, yahoo!, Mapes is so 2004.
2 posted on 06/07/2006 8:59:59 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (My dog ate my tagline.)
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To: MindBender26

LOL! I can't wait to see an op-ed by Jeff Skilling entitled: "In Defense of Kenneth Lay" - a column that would be infinitely more credible than this.


3 posted on 06/07/2006 9:01:12 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: MindBender26

Commentary such as this should accompany all TV newscasts.


4 posted on 06/07/2006 9:04:44 AM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: MindBender26

This woman is beyond delusional. She's living in Wonderland Through the Looking Glass! Apparently in her world, criticism isn't worth two cents if it isn't from a "professional" of her calibre. She's not only gone off the deep end, she's doing a "Dan, this is for YOU!" ala Damien's nanny.............


5 posted on 06/07/2006 9:05:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: MindBender26

If you tell a lie long enough, it will become the truth.......unless everybody already knows it's a lie, then it becomes pathetic.


6 posted on 06/07/2006 9:05:22 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: wideawake

This lady is obviously off her anti-depressants or she was drunk when she wrote this. It is beyond my comprehension how someone like her rose so high with so little talent.


7 posted on 06/07/2006 9:06:53 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: MindBender26

8 posted on 06/07/2006 9:07:04 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: BadAndy

Somebody said CBS plans to run a laugh track under their new anchorette this fall.


9 posted on 06/07/2006 9:07:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: MindBender26
At the height of the Vietnam War, the future president was able to select where he served, how he served and when he served. He even got to select his departure date.

Ever hear of Al Gore?

10 posted on 06/07/2006 9:08:11 AM PDT by Hildy ("Whenever someone smiles at me all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life." - Dwight Schrute)
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To: MindBender26

The experts that she hired to look at the documents told her they were fake before she went to air based on the proportionally spaced fonts and the superscripted "th."

Her response? "F**k the 'th'!!"


11 posted on 06/07/2006 9:09:29 AM PDT by Buckhead
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To: MindBender26

Goebbels defended Hitler, too.


12 posted on 06/07/2006 9:11:28 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: MindBender26
How does the song go?

"Whenever I fool the people I fear, I fool myself as well."

13 posted on 06/07/2006 9:11:47 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Lincoln: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.")
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To: MindBender26
Mapes lied, her career died.

Why is this discredited liar given space to write an article?

14 posted on 06/07/2006 9:12:44 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: MindBender26; PJ-Comix
This kind of treatment cries out for the red italics treatment standardized for moonbat leftist humor threads by PJ-Comix.
15 posted on 06/07/2006 9:13:06 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

There comes a point at which denial drifts into delusion, and Mary Mapes has crossed it.

 
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=20942_Mapes-_Crazy_or_Lying#comments

16 posted on 06/07/2006 9:16:13 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: MindBender26

LOL, Mary Mapes is still on the rag about this? It is funny how awful it is that a 'activist Republican lawyer' should automatically be dismissed no matter how persuasive his arguments were, but some activist Democratic politician with an ax to grind must be trusted 100% no matter how flaky his evidence is.


17 posted on 06/07/2006 9:19:46 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: MindBender26

Mary is tecnically correct about one thing- the documents were not forged at all, ever.

A forgery is a false representation of an actual, true, existing document.


18 posted on 06/07/2006 9:20:20 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: MindBender26

PWN3D!!!

19 posted on 06/07/2006 9:21:06 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: MindBender26
There never has been any definitive proof that they were forged or falsified in any way

What do we need, to have it on videotape of they guy making these forgeries? I got $1,000,000 bill that I don't have any definitive proof that it was forged.

20 posted on 06/07/2006 9:22:33 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: All
You always wonder who the audience is for these rants.

The universe of people who could be persuaded that the memos were not forgeries and that CBS tilts Republican is a subset of reliable Democratic voters. This isn't just preaching to the choir, it is preaching to the choir director because at least half the choir don't believe you.

If the purpose of this article is to give the Jonathan Alter's, Katrina Von Hugivesadamn's and other hard leftists debating points to use, great because they will make fools of themselves if they do.
The best I can tell is this kind of article falls in the category of myth patching. Since a myth requires no contradictions or holes, every fact that brings the myth in to question must have a story to explain the apparent hole or contradiction.
21 posted on 06/07/2006 9:24:03 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: MindBender26
That is just not true, no matter how many times Page Six or the Washington Times or some bitter conservative blogger repeats it.

How can we be bitter? We won the election Mapes and Rather tried to steal for Kerry, we got Rather retired, and we got Mapes fired. We're celebratory.

And Mapes is projecting.

22 posted on 06/07/2006 9:25:08 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (This tagline is false.)
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To: MindBender26

With all due respect for the lady's "arguments," those who present evidence, such as documents, must validate their accuracy. It is not up to the accused, or anybody else, to disprove them.

I thought it was funny how she attempts to seque from discussing the legitimacy of the documents back into a discussion of the story they were supposed to document. Never mind the fact that my evidence is obviously falsified, let's talk about the seriousness of the charges.

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"


23 posted on 06/07/2006 9:27:56 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
As for document analysis, it is a mind-numbing and arcane discipline...

When you pull the string on the Mary Mapes doll it says, "Fonts are hard!".

24 posted on 06/07/2006 9:41:11 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: MindBender26
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
25 posted on 06/07/2006 9:42:00 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: MindBender26

Dan Rather = Little Lord 'Font'leroy.


26 posted on 06/07/2006 9:53:23 AM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: MindBender26

What's the frequency, Mary?


27 posted on 06/07/2006 10:00:57 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: Always Right
It is funny how awful it is that a 'activist Republican lawyer' should automatically be dismissed no matter how persuasive his arguments were

Ad Hominem arguements- its what the Liberals excel at.

28 posted on 06/07/2006 10:08:24 AM PDT by The Blitherer ("These are not dark days, these are great days." – W. S. Churchill)
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To: white trash redneck

>What's the frequency, Mary?

Well, now that Dan's not seeing her anymore, about once a month courtesy of two Energiser c-cells and a certain discrete device that came in a plain brown wrapper.

:~)


29 posted on 06/07/2006 10:23:05 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: MindBender26

Tagline says it.


30 posted on 06/07/2006 10:36:05 AM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: nikos1121; wideawake
>>>>This lady is obviously off her anti-depressants or she was drunk when she wrote this

Or she was on her antidepressants and drunk when she wrote this.
31 posted on 06/07/2006 10:38:43 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Black holes are where God divided by zero. - Steven Wright)
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To: Restorer
Or in this case,

"Pay no attention to the man behind the Iron Curtain."

32 posted on 06/07/2006 11:31:26 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen, Meers.)
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To: MindBender26
A few months earlier, I had been fired for my work on a report about George W. Bush's military record.

A few months earlier, I had been fired for my work on a false report about George W. Bush's military record.

That's better.

33 posted on 06/07/2006 11:38:07 AM PDT by TankerKC (¿José puede usted ver?)
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To: Jonah Johansen
The best I can tell is this kind of article falls in the category of myth patching.

Note this sentence:

I don't believe we will know the truth about the memos until after the Bush team is out of office and people with information are no longer afraid to come forward.
Sounds to me like Mapes is hoping to try rewriting history later -- it may be too late to prevent Dubya from being reelected, but it might be possible to make at least a bit of the mud stick to his historical reputation.
34 posted on 06/07/2006 11:57:01 AM PDT by steve-b (Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
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To: frithguild

> (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)

Yum-yum.


35 posted on 06/07/2006 12:00:57 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: MindBender26
That first anonymous analyst (who turned out to be a Republican activist lawyer) raised questions about the memo using only a single shot of a faxed document digitally transmitted to his computer screen. Those kinds of transmissions radically change the way a document looks. His analysis was worthless.

Oh Mary! It was obvious that the memos were fake the moment they flashed on the screen during the report.

36 posted on 06/07/2006 12:02:15 PM PDT by TankerKC (¿José puede usted ver?)
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To: MindBender26

Sounds like Mary is panicking. She must have heard about the "Do Not Resuscitate" order put on her career.


37 posted on 06/07/2006 12:33:26 PM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: MindBender26
There never has been any definitive proof that they were forged or falsified in any way

-SNIP-

the content of the memos was corroborated by people familiar with Bush, his unit and his commander; the dates, times and details intricately matched what we know of the record; and two experienced and respected document analysts, who examined copies that had not been faxed or digitally recreated, concluded that the papers showed every indication of being real

Is that so Mary? Read:

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The selected memo is that dated May 4, 1972, wherein the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian orders 1st Lt. Bush to report for a flight physical not later than May 14. This memo is the most expository of the memo forgeries for several reasons. First, while the other five memos may be considered Mr. Killian's memos to self, and thus personal musings never intended for distribution, this particular memo is posited as a direct order to 1st Lt. Bush, mailed to his (wrong) home address. It was used obsessively by CBS and Bush opponents in the campaign as evidence of his refusal to obey a direct order. If any criminal or civil liabilities for fraud or forgery of government documents obtain, they would be most applicable to this document.

So, putting aside the typos, the superscripts, the signatures, the wrong header and address, and all the previously dissected items susceptible to subjective interpretations, how do I prove this memo is a fake? Easy — for the weekend that 1st Lt. Bush was supposedly ordered to report for his physical, May 13-14, 1972, the Ellington Air Guard Base was closed. It was Mother's Day. Except for emergencies, Air Guard units never drilled on Mother's Day; the divorce lawyers would be waiting at the gate.

If George Bush showed up at the clinic that weekend, he would have had to get the key from the gate guard.

The drill weekend for May 1972 was the following weekend, May 20-21. A survey of the pay and flight records of several of the Texas Air Guard members of that period shows no activity for May 13-14, but drill pay vouchers and flights for May 20-21. Guard flight physicals were normally conducted on the drill weekends, because that is the only time all the required clinic personnel were on hand to complete lab work and flight surgeon consultations mandated for aircrew. Does anyone think that Jerry Killian, squadron commander and one of the drill-schedule planners would not know on May 4 that the clinic was closed the next weekend? While CBS, in its rush to judgment, might have missed this fatal flaw in the Burkett memo, its investigative law firm, Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Nicholson Graham LLP, cannot be excused. Why? Because one of their investigating lawyers was informed of this fact on Nov. 15 and given a list of seven witnesses who worked in the same offices with Jerry Killian every day in 1972. (Disclosure statement: I was the source.) The panel report makes no mention of this, and a canvass of most of the witness list reveals no contact attempt by Kirkpatrick & Lockhart.

CBS paid Kirkpatrick & Lockhart big bucks for this report. As brilliantly explained by Tony Blankley ("Damage Control at Black Rock," his Jan.12 column), if Kirkpatrick & Lockhart's aim was an attorney's protection of its client, intentional ignorance was a good strategy.

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20050117-100017-7792r.htm

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Update 2: In my comments, Peter Nuss points to this LA Times story, which describes Brigadier General Staudt (then a colonel) as having retired in 1972. But the CBS memo dated "18 August 1973" says "Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush".

How much pressure could a retiree bring to bear?

http://www.kloognome.com/archives/001112.php

38 posted on 06/07/2006 12:37:42 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: TankerKC
I loved the part where she (in the past) claimed the TANG had proportional spacing carbon ribbon Selectric typewriters at squadron level in 1967.

When I cam back from 'Nam second time, had plastic parts in the knee, so ended up as a USAR "adviser" in 71-72.

We considered ourselves lucky to have chalk, slate and a McGuffey's Reader.

(We actually had one fabric ribbon manual typewriter for two battalions. It was an old Remington Rand and the capital "R" was broken off!)
39 posted on 06/07/2006 3:43:42 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: Always Right
LOL, Mary Mapes is still on the rag about this?
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Why not? It's not like she has a future in television, unless she becomes a worm-eater on Fear Factor.
The only was Mary can see her career is by looking in the rear-view mirror.
40 posted on 06/07/2006 4:11:53 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Dont Mention the War
We're celebratory.
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High five me, dude!!
41 posted on 06/07/2006 4:14:52 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: MindBender26
Original "real" memo with my Microsoft Word created memo overlaid.

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42 posted on 06/07/2006 6:41:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: MindBender26

The tone of derision in her writing, the condecension, the absolute disbelief that the ragged unwashed have unmasked her-- is priceless.

One would think that she would simply slink away in sheer horror at being exposed in such brazen lies, but this is not the modus operandi of the devoted liberal. A devoted liberal must find another way to attack, to make the facts fit the preconception, and if that fails-- cry conspiracy.

It convinces me even more that Hillary does not intend to win the election in 08. I'm convinced she intends to steal it.


43 posted on 06/09/2006 6:28:27 AM PDT by IncPen (The Liberal's Reward is Self-Disgust)
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To: IncPen
It's like reading:

"My Successes in Helping the People of Germany"

by Adolph Hitler


44 posted on 06/09/2006 8:03:33 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: MindBender26
Hey. Sweetness and Light (blog) is reporting that CBS now says our guys beat Zarqawi before he died. They even have an 'eye witness' from the same village.

And if we did beat the sh*t out of im, I say good on ya mates (but I suspect its another media lie).

45 posted on 06/10/2006 11:45:00 AM PDT by CT
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