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Minuteman Civil Defense Project President Chris Simcox Answers Critics
Minuteman Civil Defense Project Mass Email | 14 July 2006 | Chris Simcox

Posted on 07/14/2006 9:00:33 PM PDT by Spiff

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This came in a mass email sent out today by the Minuteman Civil Defense Project.
1 posted on 07/14/2006 9:00:37 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff; EternalVigilance; BigSkyFreeper
This part bears repeating:

All donations which have been received have been recorded, processed, and banked by a highly reputable and responsible caging company which specializes in non-profit accountability. Funds are safely and appropriately held in a secured bank account, overseen by a certified public accountant and a lawyer, disbursed by an authorized escrow agent only against approved, invoiced expenses. Some folks want to make it seem as if I personally have collected donor funds, turned them into cash, and have the money hidden under my mattress at home. For the record, I do not touch contributions at any stage, and I do not personally control MCDC bank accounts—again, objective professional fiduciary officers are accountable for all money in and money out.

It seems more than one Freeper fell for BS spewed by the legacy media.

L

2 posted on 07/14/2006 9:04:40 PM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: Spiff

So he has not built the advertised fence, he doesn't plan to build the advertised fence and he is now waiting for cool weather to build any fence at all. LOL Yep he is really answering his critics and proving them right. Where is the Building permit, where is the paperwork for his 5014c application and why is he now asking for 55 million bucks to build 30 dollar a foot fences?


3 posted on 07/14/2006 9:05:01 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

I feel so relieved and enlightened, don't you? /sarc


4 posted on 07/14/2006 9:05:53 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Lurker

Interesting how the FROBLs who have jumped in already to denounce Simcox's response did so within 5 minutes of the LENGTHY response being posted. That means that there is no possible way that they read the entire response but simply wanted to be the first FROBL to pile on. It proves that it does not matter what Chris Simcox would have said, no matter how much evidence he provided to counter the critics, these FROBLs don't care and would continue their attacks against Simcox and the Minuteman Project. Their agenda has been obvious in the past and is even more obvious now.


5 posted on 07/14/2006 9:10:15 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff

He's done more than our cumulative "Senators" have.


6 posted on 07/14/2006 9:12:36 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: Spiff

LOL. If you don't want comments and questions don't post threads. Why is he now pushing his construction schedule out until fall? Think of how many illegals he is letting in. BTW a quick scan of those photos shows at the most 20k worth of equipment.


7 posted on 07/14/2006 9:13:16 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Spiff
Some such people contacted a local Phoenix ABC television affiliate. This hit piece, done by a local Phoenix ABC affiliate was prompted by “disclosures” offered ABC by two anti-Semites, who last April demanded that we allow them to manage Minuteman operations, including all of its funding, donations and crafting of our media message. I rejected their “offer,” and my decision has proved to be a wise one.

Oh my he threw the race card. LOL

8 posted on 07/14/2006 9:14:52 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
Have you found that elusive Federal Statute yet or are you still sucking up to Morris Dees?

Barring that shouldn't you be helping Congressman Pence find a writing instrument of some kind? You know, like a computer, or a pen, or a pencil, or a quill and some ink, or a bit of charcoal and a cave wall?

But seriously Skippy, this thread is far richer for your input. Now why don't you go back and reread the part about the accounting firms. Take your time. Feel free to move your lips if you need to.

We won't mind.

L

9 posted on 07/14/2006 9:15:09 PM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: Spiff
That means that there is no possible way that they read the entire response but simply wanted to be the first FROBL to pile on. It proves that it does not matter what Chris Simcox would have said, no matter how much evidence he provided to counter the critics

This is boilerplate, written by an attorney. Simcox couldn't write something like this on a bet.

10 posted on 07/14/2006 9:17:54 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Lurker
In the meantime, we have completed our actual fence blueprints, which are now in the hands of an accredited architect, and engineers, who are ensuring that the fence design meets all regulatory requirements in its construction. There are of course tremendous liability implications in this project that we are continuously addressing.

, No but he apparently has. He has a ready made excuse to continue building his sham fence because of " tremendous liability issues. Damn he may be nuts but he is really smooth.

11 posted on 07/14/2006 9:20:20 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Lurker
By the way, no accredited professional financial institution or company would dare risk their livelihoods or their reputation by working for the MCDC

LOL the one he chose did and is doing it again.

12 posted on 07/14/2006 9:24:50 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

I guess you havent quoted Motorola LMR's or support lately, have you.

The time you spend dogging these chapters of the MM would be better spent getting the FEDGOV to get off their collective and do something.

Like I told you Tex, there are enought leftist moonbat organizations here locally in Southern Arizona and Tucson to give these folks regular proctological examinations. They dont need supposed "conservatives" to put the gloves on for a volunteer organization.


I'm sure there are voluminous posts under your name about how the Red Cross and United Way are such charming charities and have such exemplary service through and throughout the entire organization. I dont see any appropriate criticisms of similar organizations.

This is a volunteer organization and those that give, give of time, money and materials, freely and without the expectation of money, jobs or influence in return. They get what they get.

Of course you will naysay, browbeat and pick at these guys because you personally disagree with what they are doing; just like the SPLC, Vigilante Watch, ANSWER, and ACLU do.

Nothing will satisfy you.


13 posted on 07/14/2006 9:26:53 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: Texasforever
Smooth enough to do this:

All donations which have been received have been recorded, processed, and banked by a highly reputable and responsible caging company which specializes in non-profit accountability. Funds are safely and appropriately held in a secured bank account, overseen by a certified public accountant and a lawyer, disbursed by an authorized escrow agent only against approved, invoiced expenses. Some folks want to make it seem as if I personally have collected donor funds, turned them into cash, and have the money hidden under my mattress at home. For the record, I do not touch contributions at any stage, and I do not personally control MCDC bank accounts—again, objective professional fiduciary officers are accountable for all money in and money out.

I guess you missed that part. No suprise, there are some really big words in it.

L

14 posted on 07/14/2006 9:26:53 PM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: Texasforever
Oh my he threw the race card.

The McCutcheon's ARE anti-semites and were kicked out of the Minuteman Project for being racist losers. First, last year, the hostile leftist media tried to smear the Minutemen for ever allowing the McCutcheon's into the Minuteman Project in the first place (they were kicked out as soon as their racism was discovered by the MMP) and demonized both the McCutcheon's and the MMP. Then, this year, suddenly the McCutcheon's are a "reliable" source for the media to use to attack the Minuteman Project. Yet you fell for it and the carefully edited hit piece put out by the hostile leftist media.

15 posted on 07/14/2006 9:27:10 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: sinkspur
This is boilerplate, written by an attorney.

So you think having attorneys is a bad idea? Please explain.

L

16 posted on 07/14/2006 9:28:44 PM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: Lurker
For the record, I do not touch contributions at any stage, and I do not personally control MCDC bank accounts—again, objective professional fiduciary officers are accountable for all money in and money out.

Well if he says so then it must be true after all just look at the 10 mile Israeli fence he started on Labor day. Oh wait, it is 2.2 miles of unfinished farm fence. LMAO.

17 posted on 07/14/2006 9:29:35 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: axes_of_weezles; Spiff
The subject of con men interests me. Thanks to Spiff for starting the thread.
18 posted on 07/14/2006 9:30:42 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: axes_of_weezles
Of course you will naysay, browbeat and pick at these guys because you personally disagree with what they are doing; just like the SPLC, Vigilante Watch, ANSWER, and ACLU do.

Birds of a feather...

19 posted on 07/14/2006 9:30:57 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Lurker
He is really going to need an attorney before this is over.
20 posted on 07/14/2006 9:31:15 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
Well it seems your accusations of him having his 'hand in the cookie jar' have turned out to be crap.

Also your assertion that fencing private property is against Federal Law has turned out to be crap.

Your claims that Pence has written a Bill was also shown to be crap.

Tell me tf. Are your eyes brown?

L

21 posted on 07/14/2006 9:32:31 PM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: Lurker

Why because he says his hands are clean and he will prove it in November?LMAO.


22 posted on 07/14/2006 9:33:34 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
The subject of con men interests me.

Well you did say you were a contractor, so that's understandable.

L

23 posted on 07/14/2006 9:35:03 PM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: Lurker

Man that was weak.


24 posted on 07/14/2006 9:35:40 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
Yourhistory in the construction trades may explain your disdain for certain Federal Laws regarding the hiring of illegal labor as well.

L

25 posted on 07/14/2006 9:38:08 PM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: Lurker
Is that a fact? Well your history as a fast food assistant manager would make you an expert.
26 posted on 07/14/2006 9:39:57 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Petronski

insomniac ping


27 posted on 07/14/2006 9:40:45 PM PDT by cyborg (then comes baby in the baby carriage)
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To: cyborg; Petronski

More like a "Ripley's Believe It or Not ping."


28 posted on 07/14/2006 9:42:17 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Texasforever

I'm really confused; were the two "anti-Semites" looking for Jewish Mexicans?


29 posted on 07/14/2006 9:43:34 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Howlin
I'm really confused; were the two "anti-Semites" looking for Jewish Mexicans?

There actually are a considerable number of Jewish Mexicans. Many Jews settled in Mexico in the early part of the 20th century.

30 posted on 07/14/2006 9:47:02 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: cyborg; Petronski


Honeymoon over?


31 posted on 07/14/2006 9:48:30 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx

Yes it is :D


32 posted on 07/14/2006 9:51:16 PM PDT by cyborg (then comes baby in the baby carriage)
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To: cyborg

NOOOOOOOOOOO!


33 posted on 07/14/2006 9:51:40 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx

lol


34 posted on 07/14/2006 9:54:53 PM PDT by cyborg (then comes baby in the baby carriage)
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To: Lurker

Further proof, as if any decent person around here needed it, that the FR OBL crowd could care less about the truth.

Their education at the Carville/Begala School of Politics obviously stuck.


35 posted on 07/14/2006 9:55:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Lurker

Where's the fence?


36 posted on 07/14/2006 9:56:12 PM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Spiff
Simcox has taken in hundreds of thousands of dollars...if not millions. He has built a 2.2 mile fence that could be climbed over by a 10 year old child with 2 legs and a pair of shoes. If I had contributed money I would be pissed.

Simcox has many excuses, but the fact remains he has utilized only $17,000 and he expects morons to give him millions more based upon that pathetic performance. I hope he gets lots of suckers before he is hauled away to prison for embezzlement. Good Luck Chris.

37 posted on 07/14/2006 9:56:45 PM PDT by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win)
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To: EternalVigilance


Stuff it.

You're a broken record and there are NO OBL posters here, you pot-stirring dolt.


38 posted on 07/14/2006 9:57:44 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Spiff
Simcox has taken in hundreds of thousands of dollars...if not millions. He has built a 2.2 mile fence that could be climbed over by a 10 year old child with 2 legs and a pair of shoes. If I had contributed money I would be pissed.

Simcox has many excuses, but the fact remains he has utilized only $17,000 and he expects morons to give him millions more based upon that pathetic performance. I hope he gets lots of suckers before he is hauled away to prison for embezzlement. Good Luck Chris.

39 posted on 07/14/2006 9:57:48 PM PDT by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win)
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To: onyx

That has to be a macro.


40 posted on 07/14/2006 9:59:53 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: onyx

don't hold back!


41 posted on 07/14/2006 10:00:14 PM PDT by cyborg (then comes baby in the baby carriage)
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To: onyx

The honeymoon trip? Yes, that is over.


But not the honeymoon. ;O)


42 posted on 07/14/2006 10:01:28 PM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: cyborg


OK, next time I won't hold back...lol.


43 posted on 07/14/2006 10:01:49 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx
You're a broken record and there are NO OBL posters here, you pot-stirring dolt.

LOL...

Have you figured out what a caging company is yet, or do you still have the tinfoil on your head?

44 posted on 07/14/2006 10:02:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Petronski; cyborg


GOOD. Just a married couple spending Friday night FReeping.
I get it...lol.


45 posted on 07/14/2006 10:03:07 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: EternalVigilance
Yes the one that has already been investigated for misuse of money. You would be surprised at how many websites are taking this apart.
46 posted on 07/14/2006 10:04:25 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: EternalVigilance

If I have tinfoil on my head, you're wearing panty hose.


47 posted on 07/14/2006 10:06:37 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx

LOLOLOLOLOL!!! :D


48 posted on 07/14/2006 10:07:21 PM PDT by cyborg (then comes baby in the baby carriage)
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To: Lurker
So you think having attorneys is a bad idea? Please explain.

On the contrary, I think Simcox is going to need all the attorneys he can get.

49 posted on 07/14/2006 10:07:37 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Texasforever
You would be surprised at how many websites are taking this apart.

What? The SPLC? The ACLU? MeCHA? Indymedia? La Raza?

Tell 'em hello for us, "Tex".

50 posted on 07/14/2006 10:07:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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