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While Lebanon Boils, Watch Bosnia ^

Posted on 07/19/2006 1:16:40 PM PDT by kronos77

It is always very hard to focus on broad pictures when so many fires are in need of being put out. But it is imperative to keep in mind in the ongoing conflict Iran’s long-standing ties not only to Hezbollah, but to Islamists in Bosnia, a relationship that spans more than a decade.

There is concern among Bosnian contacts that, if Iran feels things are going badly in Lebanon and that the war needs another front, it would take little to ignite Bosnia. It would not be hard to do and the international presence in Bosnia is greatly reduced. So is the intelligence capacity developed in the late 1990s. Several key intelligence-gathering units have been dissolved in Bosnia in the past six months, meaning the West is more blind there than any time since the mid-1990s.

To date Iranian intelligence maintains a huge apparatus in Bosnia and several dozen, if not hundreds, of trainers with the elite units of the Bosnian military. In addition, several hundred mujahadeen who fought in Afghanistan and then Bosnia remain scattered around Bosnia, many of them still with the elite Bosnia units or in the intelligence apparatus.

It is worth remembering this heavy Iranian involvement in the Bosnian conflict because it was in Bosnia that al Qaeda developed its template for future operations. One of the most interesting things is that, while the mujahadeen and Bosnian Muslims were supported by Saudi Arabia and many others, much of the aid flowed through Iran, despite the Shi’ite-Sunni divide. The bridge was Hasan Cengic, an Iranian intelligence agent and later Bosnia’s deputy defense minister who has been designated by the U.S. Treasury Department. Cengic did some of his earliest weapons deals through Viktor Bout, who flew in hundreds of tons of weapons for the Bosnian Muslims in 1992. He later “sold” Cengic at least one aircraft, and perhaps more.

Cengic, although working on behalf of Iran, coordinated the Saudi’s multi-hundred million dollar financial support for the Bosnian Muslims as well. There are concrete examples of this. During one period in the late 1990s, Wa’el Julaidan, now designated by both the U.S. and Saudi Arabia as a terrorist financier, received $8 millon from a Cengic-controlled account of the Third World Relief Agency. Julaidan later repaid the money to the TWRA account in a series of smaller payments.

Given Iran’s ongoing desire to push a pan-Islamist agenda and the advantages it gains from ongoing turmoil-not only in terms of oil revenues, but in terms of being able to build alliances, move agents and set a pan-Islamist agenda-its leaders could well feel the need to use another arrow from its quiver. But it could be that no one is watching Bosnia as it prepares to burn.

TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: balkans; bosnia; christianity; clintonlegacy; durkadurka; ihoppy; islam; jihad; pancakeboy; serbia; sorosfluffers; terror; toothlessdhimmi; wot; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongtime; wrongwar
Balkan Ping!
1 posted on 07/19/2006 1:16:41 PM PDT by kronos77
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To: joan; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; Banat; ...

Second front... Thanks to Bill Clinton...

2 posted on 07/19/2006 1:18:09 PM PDT by kronos77 ( say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: tgambill


3 posted on 07/19/2006 1:23:54 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: kronos77
>>>>>>Second front... Thanks to Bill Clinton...<<<<<

Clinton - a gift that keeps on giving.

4 posted on 07/19/2006 2:01:07 PM PDT by DTA
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Sound like a clam....

5 posted on 07/19/2006 2:06:24 PM PDT by kronos77 ( say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: kronos77; Bokababe; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ..

Too bad Ronly Bonly bin Laden isn't still around to sputter on about how secular and decent all the Bosnian Muhammedan really were!

Ok, I was kidding. It's good that he keeps getting banned.

6 posted on 07/19/2006 2:14:34 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: FormerLib; ma bell; Bokababe; tgambill
The "Bosnian" islamists and their Al Qaeda and Iranian "helpers" have had it "too good" since 1995 to attack Americans or anyone else. That is because "Bosnia" is an ideal European base for organizing finance for worldwide jihad, as well as training, shipping hordes of islamic "immigrants" (including some terrorists) into the West, planning terrorist operations, and ideological subversion (i.e., convincing Westerners that islam really is "the religion of peace". )

"Bosnia" has thus resembled, in a much larger version, many radical mosques in America, rather than a jihad front like Iraq, Afghanistan, the Holy Land, or even nearby Kosovo and Macedonia. And USEFUL IDIOTS like Ronly-Boly bin Laden, Hoppy, and other more famous people look at "Bosnia" and US mosques, and declare these islamist subversives to be "moderates".

However, if the nutjob Amadinejad, and the ayatollahs whom he fronts for, ever want a second front, they can use "Bosnia", with the advantage of taking the kuffar by surprise. However, I think that it is more likely that they will use Kosovo and adjacent areas, depending on the results of the bogus "independence" talks.

7 posted on 07/19/2006 4:00:32 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: GarySpFc

"Bosnian Muslims were supported by Saudi Arabia and many others"

say what? We supported the Bosnian Muslims and also in Croatia.

8 posted on 07/20/2006 12:58:26 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: kronos77

I just returned from Bosnia three weeks ago. When I saw the pictures from the border of Israel and Lebanon, the first thought that came to mind was Bosnia. The pseudo-government is trying to expell the foreign fighters and it makes me think this will either be a boon to the places sincerely wanting to expell the mujahideen or it will simply ignite the fighting again. What's the biggest problem I see? The United Nations has been in the back pocket of the jihadists though the entire situation. (on TV right now, a picture of Kofi Annan shaking the hand of the leader of Hezbollah). The Judiciary police (Sudska) answer to orders from EUFOR, and EUFOR does whatever the UN tells it to do. Anyone else recently in the country, in and around Mostar and especially Sarajevo, knows there is a boom of mosque building and continued ethnic violence. In the words of a Croatian friend, "The UN is here to keep us from destroying each other." Ah well, that's an opinion from someone recently on the ground. Hey, did you know you can buy the flag of Hamas in Berlin? In the booths selling flags for the world cup there were a number of other accessories of note. Ciao!

9 posted on 07/20/2006 3:00:33 PM PDT by JollyJupiter
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To: Honorary Serb

Good point. I've been wondering if one reason we don't have non-Al Qaeda groups attacking in the US (besides the obvious - they wouldn't want us AND Israel going after them) is they need us - as a place to raise funds.

10 posted on 07/30/2006 12:57:37 AM PDT by PghBaldy (The Unabomber & Eric Rudolph were lone individuals who committed terrorist acts)
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To: FormerLib
Oh my God I can't believe this you guys must be Serbia or you don't know a thing about Bosnian people don't judge the book by the cover you have to read the book first get more educated and then try to express your self i was in Bosnia and Bosnian Musslims and catholics are the same the only different that does not fit on the Balkan is the Serbia for God's sake the Serbs attacked Slovenia first which is Catholic country and later Croatia which is catholic country and after Bosnia which is majority Mus slim
why don't you ask you self if the Serbs are so good how come people from Montenegro separated from them they are the same religion Noone can live with these layers for God's sake did you watch the movie Behind enemy lines Serbs killed American soldiers When the shit happen in NY people in Belgrade celebrated so they showed us how much they love us they even created songs in Serbia how the serbia will be from Belgrade to Milwaukee you can only dream about that I can tell you that I am against the Serbs and so are Macedonians Kosovos Slovenians Croatians Bosnian and Montenegro nobody wants to live with them together the question is WHY ??? WHY??
11 posted on 12/16/2006 11:20:18 AM PST by Adam8
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To: Adam8

Since you claim to have been there, start getting your fact correct.

The Serbs did not attack Slovenia until the Slovenes used force of arms to prevent the resupply of Yugoslav Army units in their garrison inside the borders of the breakaway republic.

Similarly, the Serbs in the Krajina opposed the breakaway from Yugoslavia as well as the revocation of their right to self-defense.

Montenegro realized that they could escape the EU sanctions by separating themselves from Serbia as Serbia was accused of not surrending Karazdic and Mladic, neither of whom can be shown to still reside inside of Serbia. Montenegro is primarily populated BY Serbs.

The Serbs were incorrectly named the bad guys for standing against the Jihadists. Going along with this NWO thinking is easy but not acceptable for those who have a brain.

And welcome to Free Republic, Dhimmi.

12 posted on 12/16/2006 11:44:06 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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